hampshire institute of politics. already tonight we heard from senators amy klobachar and elizabeth warren and right now is senator bernie sanders of vermont leading the field among the harvard institute of politics. please welcome senator sanders. >> how are you doing? >> good to see you. >> you too. >> thank you. >> all right. how about our first question. >> why not? >> why not, indeed. >> what else do we have to do? >> we'll talk later. >> he's from massachusetts and a junior at the university of massachusetts, lowell. what have you got? >> hi, senator. >> hi. >> how are you? >> good. >> you reduced your medicare for all legislation package, many of them are running along side of you for president of the united states. in this legislation you called for an end to private health insurance companies. how do you plan to phase out these companies for your new medicare for all insurance. >> excellent question on a issue that millions of americans stay up nights about. we have a dysfunctional health care system in which 30 million americans have no health insurance at all. even more are underinsured with high deductibles and co-payments. we baby fpay by far the highests in the world. in terms of infant mortality and life expectancy not marparticuly good. and for all of that we spend twice as much per capita as any country on earth. the function of the current health care system is not to provide quality care for all in a cost effective way. the function of the current system is to make billions of dollars in profits for the insurance companies and the drug companies. that is the function of the current system and what i believe is that over a four year period which is what my legislation is about, we're going to transform our health care system. so first year we go from 65 years of age to eligibility to medicare down to 55 and we cover all of the kids in the country and by the way, despite what president trump says we expand benefits for senior citizens. medicare is a very good program but it doesn't cover dental care. it doesn't cover eyeglasses and it doesn't cover hearing aids and we do that. bottom line is i believe from the bottom of my heart that health care is a human right and not a privilege and the best way to go forward in my view is through medicare for all single payer program. >> next question, ann, junior at harvard. >> senator sanders, you said that you believe that people with felony records should be allowed to vote while in prison. does this mean you would support infranchising people like the boston marathon bomber, a convicted terrorist and murder? do you think that those convicted of sexual assault should have the opportunity to vote for politicians that could have a direct impact on women's rights? >> thank you for the question. what our campaign is about is creating a vibrant democracy. today as you know we have one of the lowest voter turn outs of my country on earth. i want to see one of the highest voter turn outs. we're seeing more young people getting involved in the political process but not enough. and in my view if young people voted at the same percentage that older people voted in this country we would transform this nation. but to get to your point, we live in a moment where cowardly republican vote governors are trying to suppress the vote. right here in new hampshire they're working hard to make it more difficult for young people to vote and to me that is incredibly undemocratic, un-american process and i say to those people, by the way, if you don't have the guts to participate in free and fair elections you should get another job and get out of politics. all right? so. >> so to answer your question, as it happens in my own state of vermont from the very first days of our state's history our constitution says everybody can vote. so people in jail can vote. if somebody commits a serious crime, sexual assault, murder, they're going to be punished. they may be in jail for 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, their whole life. that's what happens when you commit a serious crime but i think the right to vote is inherent to our democracy. yes, even for terrible people because once you start chipping away and you say well that guy committed a terrible crime, not going to let him vote. well that person did that. not going to let that person vote, you're running down a slippery slope. so i believe people commit crimes and they paid the price and they have the right to vote. i believe even if they're in jail they're paying their price to society but that should not take away their american right to participate in our democracy. >> you think the boston marathon bomber should vote not after he pays his debt to society but while he's in jail. are you sure about that? >> i think i have written many 30 second opposition ads throughout my life. this will be just another one. but i do believe -- this is what i believe. you believe in democracy? that every single american 18 years of age or older who is an american citizen has the right to vote? once you start chipping away at that -- that's what our republican governors are doing. coming up with all kinds of excuses while people of color, young people, poor people can't vote and i will do everything i can to resist it. this is a democracy this is a democracy and we have to expand that democracy and every person has a right to vote. >> she is a graduate student studying journalism. she's here from georgia. >> your views on reparations surprised me especially since one of the messages of your campaign is closing the wealth gap. for black people it stems from the aftermath of slavery. if it's not part of your plan to end the wealth gap for black people, what is? >> what i have said is there is legislation in the house. and i have said if the house and the senate pass it i will sign it and that will call for a study of the implications of reparations and i think what kenya is saying is what we all know to be true. today in america in the midst of massive income disparity we have another disparity between black and white. african american families have one tenth the wealth that white families have and that is unacceptable and we have to deal with it. now the way i think we can most effectively deal with that and this is an idea -- i didn't come up with it. a congressman from south carolina, he called it the 10-20-30 legislation which means that you use 10% of federal funds. that is a lot of money to focus on communities all over the country, minority kmuncommuniti who have long-term poverty and we focus on those communities. we make sure that all of the kids get the education that they need. they get the health care that they need. we improve the infrastructure. we improve broadband. we create a situation in these distressed communities where we take people out of poverty all across the country. that's the direction i think we should go. >> next question. jordan cook, sophomore studying politics and history here. he is from maine. jordan, what's your question. >> hello senator sanders. we live in the age of globalization. international trade has become increasingly necessary for a nation to remain prosperous. trump in recent years limited our trade influence in nations in africa and latin america which has given the russians and chinese a chance to influence such regions. what will your trade policy be in such regions compared to trump? >> good question. you're right. we live in a global economy. i think all of us understand the importance of trade, but i happen to believe in fair trade. not free trade. because in the context of your question, you have to appreciate that disastrous trade agreements like nafta, perm nananent norma trade relations with china and others resulted in millions of americans, hard working people who have lost their jobs because profitable corporations in this country shutdown because they weren't making enough money and they thought they could make more money going abroad paying people $1 an hour or $2 an hour. so i believe in trade but it has to be a trade policy that works for working people and not just the ceos of large corporations and your point is also right. we're seeing china move aggressively in latin america and africa and asia and this is an issue we have to deal with as well. but bottom line is trade is a good thing but there's a reason why millions of americans have seen a decline in their standard of living. they once had decent paying jobs. those jobs were shifted abroad and that's something that i disagree with strongly. >> senator sanders, you recently released 10 years of your tax returns. >> i did. >> let's talk about that topic. ellen is a freshman at harvard and grew up in massachusetts. what's your question for the senator. >> senator sanders, thank you for being here. your tax returns recently revealed that you are, in fact, a millionaire. how would you respond to concerns that your financial status undermines your authority as someone who has railed against millionaires and billionaires? >> that's a good question. and here it is. all right. you ready to have me plead guilty. i plead guilty to have written a book which was an international best seller. okay? and when you write a book that makes it to the top of the new york times best seller list, you make money. and i made money. i suspect that in a couple of years my salary will go back to 173,000 which is what a member of congress gets. but i think your question should ask, well, now that you wrote a book and you made money, is that going to mean that you change your policies? well, you're looking at somebody who not only voted against trump's disastrous tax plan, 83% of the benefits going to the top 1%. but i have and will continue in this campaign to fight for progressive taxation. in other words, whether it's bernie sanders or your family or anybody else in america when we have so much income and wealth inequality. when the people on top are doing phenomenally well, yeah, if you are doing very, very well in our economy you should be paying your fair share of taxes. we will raise those taxes for the upper income people. we will do away with the tax loopholes and the tax breaks that large private corporations currently receive. do you happen to know -- anybody here happen to know how much amazon paid in taxes last year? zero. owned by the wealthiest guy in america. that's an absurd tax system and if elected president i'll change it. >> two quick follow ups. you said you expect your salary to go back down. >> unless i write another best seller. i don't know. >> or, who makes more than that? what does the president of the united states make? >> i don't know. >> 400. are you saying that you're not going to win? >> no. i'm not saying that. i'm just saying that i don't think anybody believes that because i wrote a best seller that i change my views and you'll now hear me say maybe we ought to give tax breaks to millionaires. >> so you made a lot more money than you did the year before because of the book. charitable donations when we look at your taxes went up but they didn't go up proportionally. i'm not coming after you about what you gave in your donations. my question is this, having the experience of having more money and deciding what you wanted to do with it, did it give you more perspective about how people with more money feel about the government or somebody like you forcing policies that demand them to give amounts as opposed to what they want to give? >> as a matter of fact if you read the tax returns, we were not aggressive. we didn't go to accountants and figure out how we can possibly pay the lowest amount in taxes. probably paid more than we should have. you raise an interesting question. i grew up in a family that was a working glass family. i lived in a rent controlled apartment in new york. i knew what paycheck to paycheck life was about. i knew what tension was about in a family. i'll tell you the difference now. when i was a kid my family had to worry about how they're going to pay this bill or how they're going to pay that bill. i don't have to worry about that now. that stress is off my family and that is a great relief and i have spent my entire life and hopefully will conclude my political life in the white house trying to make sure that every person in this country does not have to deal with the stress of whether they can afford to pay the electric bill, whether they're going to have health care, whether they can send their kids to child care. so that is the difference that i have learned. it's great not to have to worry about whether your electricity or phone bill is going to be shut off and i want every person in this country, the wealthiest country in the history of the world to be able to live in that kind of way. >> next question, sophomore at harvard studying government from minnesota. gabriel. >> hi, senator. what is one thing that you have changed your mind about recently? >> nothing. i've been con ssistent for -- jt kidding. i have been paying more attention to foreign policy. i was rightfully criticized the last time around because i didn't pay as much attention as i might. the economy issues, whether people have health care and whether they have decent paying jobs and deal with climate change is enormously important but we have to look at the united states's role in the world as well and probably a few years ago i would not have been as involved as i have recently been in demanding and helping in the senate to pass a resolution to get the united states out of the saudi lead intervention in yemen. [ applause ] >> and for the first time in 45 years under the war powers act, it has been successfully used. we did it in the senate and we did it in the house. sadly, tragically trump vetoed it. but to answer your question more about foreign policy issues than i previously did. >> all right. good place to stop. we'll take a quick break. please come back. we have a lot more of cnn's special democratic presidential town hall event right now with senator bernie sanders. go nowhere. who's idea was this? ♪ ♪ at to cover the essentialsyou have in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you're ready for what comes next, the only direction is forward. red lobster's new weekday five days.s here: five deals. for fifteen dollars get a different deal every weekday til six pm like endless shrimp monday admiral's feast tuesday four course feast wednesday and more. five days. five deals. fifteen dollars. see you before six. now, super stay matte inkades. from maybelline new york. bold color. urban edge. liquid matte formula. up to 16 hour wear. super stay matte ink. only from maybelline new york. ♪ with venus, you're in charge of your skin. so, write your own rules. because no one gets an opinion on why you shave - or how you show your skin. ♪ if ywhen you brush or floss, you don't have to choose between healthy gums and strong teeth. complete protection from parodontax has 8 designed benefits for healthy gums and strong teeth. complete protection from parodontax. not this john smith. or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith. who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. at humana, we take a personal approach to your health, to provide care that's just as unique as you are. no matter what your name is. ♪ and relief from symptoms caused feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin no matter what your name is. by over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. up. up. down. down. ah ah! that's one. up. that's two. down. down. get down, get down. i can customize each line for each family member? 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>> well, what i agree is that we have the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country. somebody who is a pathological liar. somebody who the mueller report said left the question open which congress has to explore as to whether or not he obstructed justice. a very serious crime. to my view is twofold. first it goes without saying that the congress has got to take a hard look at that and do a hard investigation and ask -- subpoena the people who were mentioned in that report and get to the truth. did trump actually obstruct justice? but here is my concern. at the end of the day, what is most important to me is to see that donald trump is not reelected president and i intend to do everything i can to make sure that that doesn't happen. but if for the next year all the congress is talking about is trump, trump, trump, and mueller mueller, mueller and we're not talking about health care and raising the minimum wage to a living wage and we're not talking about climate change and sexism and racism and homophobia and the issues that concern ordinary americans, i worry that works to trump's advantage. i think there has to be a thorough investigation. the house democrats will do it. i'd appreciate if my republican colleagues in the senate had the guts to do it as well but i won't hold my breath. i want to see that investigation. we'll see where it goes but right now, you know, that's it. >> so you don't know where you are on impeachment yet but what if you reverse your argument and say you just had that answered twice. mueller said he couldn't come to a conclusion. he can't exonerate and can't prosecute and you had the deputy ag say no obstruction. you got your answer twice. why look again? >> no, the issue of obstruction, mueller said that's an open question and that's something the house of representatives should look at. >> and the ag and deputy ag said no obstruction. >> i'd rather have an objective investigation done by the house. >> next question. samantha is a sophomore at harvard studying social studies from california. >> i have a sneaking suspicion that i didn't say your name right. it's not even close to what i said. >> a lifetime of it. it's okay. hi senator sanders, so my father's family left soviet russia in 1979 fleaieing from t same socialist policies you seem eager to put in this country. how do you rectify it with the failures of socialism in every country that has tried it. [ applause ] >> thank you for that question. is it your assumption that i believed in authoritarian communism that was in the soviet union. i haven't and i opposed it. i believe in a vigorous policy. you asked me about democratic socialism. fair question and let me answer it. i happen to believe that in the united states there is something fundamentally wrong when we have three families owning more wealth than the bottom half of american society. 160 million people. something wrong when the top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 92%. something very wrong when 49% of all new income today is going to the top 1%. and something is equally wrong when we have a corrupt political system made worse by this disastrous citizen's united supreme court decision that allows billionaires to spend unlimited sums of money to elect candidates that represent the wealthy. so answer number one, it's a radical idea. maybe not everybody agrees but i happen to believe we should have a government that represents working families and not just the 1% and powerful corporations. that's point number one. point number two, what do i mean when i talk about democratic socialism? it's certainly not the authoritarian communism that existed in the soviet union. this is what it means. it means that we cherish among other things our bill of rights. franklin roosevelt made this point. in 1944 in a state of the union address that never got a lot of attention, this is what he said basically. a very profound speech. he said we got a great constitution. bill of rights protects your freedom of religion. freedom of assembly, freedom of speech but it doesn't protect and guarantee you economic rights. so let me be honest with you, i believe in a democratic civilized society health care is a human right. government should make that happen. i believe that every young person in this country regardless of his or her income has the right to get all the education they need. that's why i have fought hard with some success to move toward making public colleges and universities tuition free and very substantially reduce student debt. and i believe there's something wrong when you have millions of families paying 40 or 50% of their limited incomes to put a roof over their heads and that millions of working class families, young parents cannot find quality and affordable child care. so we have to address the very, very rich getting richer and middle class struggling and 40 million living in poverty. it means to me that we expand medicare and provide educational opportunity for all americans. we rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. in other words government serves the needs of all people rather than just wealthy campaign contributors. that's what it means to me. >> you were asked earlier on as a quick follow up to this, what do you feel differently about now? you used to argue that you should have government control the means of capitalism. >> when did i say that? >> in the 70s. >> what did you say in the 70s? >> gaga goo goo. what i'm saying is you have changed. >> wait a minute, first of all, he hears me criticizing media all the time and he gets nervous about it. >> one of many things that makes me nervous. >> i was a mayor of a city for 8 years. i said what i said and that is that i want to live in a nation in which all people in the wealthiest nation of the history of the world can have a decent standard of living. i'm not thinking about everybody owning a big fancy house or cadillac or anything like that. but the ideas are not to radical. health care as a right exists in virtually any other major country on earth. does anyone here know how much it costs to go to college in germany? it's free. i said in finland college is free. he said it's not free. he said they pay us to go to college. so these are ideas about guaranteeing economic rights to working people rather than seeing people working two or three jobs, $8 or $9 an hour living under great stress and marriages dissolving as a result. that's what i believe. i believe in a nation in which we guarantee fundamental economic rights, basic necessities of life. >> you said you have also been thinking more about foreign policy. let's get a question on that. shelly, a junior at harvard >> as a young man about your age i spent a number of months in israel. i have family in israel. i am not antiisrael but the fact of the matter is that netanyahu is a right wing politician who i think is treating the palestinian people extremely unfairly. [ applause ] >> so what i believe is the united states gives billions of dollars in military aid to israel. what i believe is not radical. i just believe that the united states should deal with the middle east on a level playing field basis. in other words, the goal must be to try to bring people together and not just support one country, which is now run by a right wing, dare i say, racist government. [ applause ] >> so i am 100% pro-israel. they have every right in the world to exist and to exist in peace and security and not be subjected the terrorist attacks but the united states needs to deal not just with israel but with the palestinian people as well. >> another question, nicholas st. germain. he's an aspiring police officer. >> good. >> what is your stance on putting armed guards or heightened police presence inside of schools? >> i'm against it. but let me also -- [ applause ] >> let me say this to nicholas and to a lot of young people, we need fundamental reform in our criminal justice system which is very, very broken now. and i'm delighted to hear that you're going into criminal justice. we need a lot of young people to get involved in criminal justice and to help us transform a criminal justice system that is not working right now. we have more people in jail than any other major country on earth. more people in jail than china does. disproportionally african american, latino, and native americans. we have got to invest, in my view, in my view we have got to invest in our young people in jobs and education. we have a lot of kids hanging out on street corners. they're going to get involved in destructive and self-destructive activity. it makes more sense to me at a time when we're spending $80 billion a year locking fellow americans up, we have to end the so-called war on drugs. [ applause ] >> many lives have been destroyed because of criminal records associated with possession of marijuana and i'm delighted to see that not only state after state are legalizing marijuana but also some communities moving to exponge the records of people in possession of marijuana. but also we need police department reform and what that means is we have a lot of departments that spend more time on teaching the officers how to shoot a gun and less time on teaching them how to break up disturbances in a non-lethal way. being a cop is an enormously important job and difficult job and most police officers to my mind, i was a mayor for years. they're trying hard and trying to do the right thing under very difficult circumstances. but one of the points that we should make and as president i will help lead that effort is that lethal force, use of a weapon to kill somebody should be the last response, not as is too often the case, the first response. >> all right. let's bring in georgia. geor georgia is a sophomore here studying environmental science from pennsylvania. thank you. >> hi, senator. given the current political climate in a nation that's so polarized what will you do to reach across the aisle to compromise with the gop? >> well, i have done that throughout my political career. it may surprise some people but there were years when i was in the u.s. house of representatives that i passed more amendments in a given year than any other congressman because i reached across the aisle and found common ground with republicans who agreed with me on a particular issue and i mentioned a moment ago that i was very proud to have helped pass resolution in the senate to get the united states out of the war in yemen and the co-sponsor was a very conservative republican from utah named mike lee and i think that if there is good leadership in the white house, it turns out that there is a lot more commocommonality interests than the media often portrays and we can bring people together on that. for example, whether you're a republican or democrat or an independent, you know there's something wrong when our infrastructure is crumbling. our roads and bridges and waste water plants. i believe i can bring republicans and democrats together to say you know what, if we rebuild our crumbling infrastructure we make sure that every american family has clean drinking water and people's cars don't get destroyed when they go through a pothole, i think we can have republican support for a sensible infrastructure program. another example, this country and i think everybody understands it is being ripped off by the pharmaceutical industry. we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. the ten major pharmaceutical companies made $69 billion in profit and yet one in five americans can't afford the medicine they need. they are incredibly greedy i think a number of republicans know that and i think that we can work together and we have very specific ideas to do that to cut prescription drug costs in this country in half so that the american people are not paying any more. >> let's hold it there and take a break. when we come back we have more with senator bernie sanders. stay with cnn. ♪ there goes our first big order. ♪ 44, 45, 46... how many of these did they order? ooh, that's hot. ♪ you know, we could sell these. nah. ♪ we don't bake. ♪ opportunity. what we deliver by delivering. new lysol wipes are crazy strong. don't believe us? we got this workout class to compare them to clorox. wow! feel the strength of new lysol wipes. dude! are you looking at this? can i take those? no. lysol. what it takes to protect.® hey, who are you? oh, hey jeff, i'm a car thief... what?! i'm here to steal your car because, well, that's my job. what? what?? what?! 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>> i haven't studied it but i think elizabeth and i end up agreeing on a whole lot of issues and what she understands and what i understand is we don't punish people for the crime of getting a higher education. >> i have young people from howard university that are teachers in my office a couple of weeks ago. this fellow working as a teacher getting his masters degree. $182,000 in debt. how do you pay that off on a teacher's salary. i talked to a young doctor, $300,000 in debt. so we have to do as i said earlier, two things. i'm proud. i raised this issue. four years ago. everybody four years ago says bernie is a little bit crazy, talking about making public colleges and universities tuition free. ain't such a crazy idea today. we can argue about the best way to do it. and we have many differences on it. people should not have to forgo getting married or a car for having a college education. people say how are you going to pay for that? get back to the question that the young man asked a moment ago. yeah, when wall street was bailed out by congress to the tune of at least $1 trillion, don't tell me we don't have enough money in this country to substantially reduce student debt. >> another question. she's a freshman at harvard studying government and economics. she's from california. what is your question. >> hi, senator sanders. the green new deal really energized the democratic party recently and while i completely agree that climate change needs to be one of our top priorities, my concern has been lack of specificity and detailed policies as to how we will actually become carbon neutral. what are specific reforms you have and how will you ensure that feasible support is given to carbon heavy industries that will be most impacted to ease that transition. >> good. excellent question. all the others were excellent too. this is where i come from on this issue and i have to tell you a number of years ago i introduced the most sweeping legislation to combat climate change in the history of the senate. here's where we are. you know this, the scientists know the issue the best. some months ago made it clear that if we do not significantly transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and energy efficiency and sustainable energies, this planet and our country will suffer irreparable damage. so to me, the issue of moving very aggressively on climate chang is a moral issue because it speaks to whether or not we are going to leave this country and our planet and i've got seven grandchildren including three here in new hampshire in a way that is healthy and habitable. and if we do not act aggressively it will be a disaster in my view for the entire planet and the united states. to answer your question, what does that mean? it means that we have got to take on the fossil fuel industry and make it very clear that we are moving away from fossil fuel and at the same time not blaming those people who work in the coal industry or the gas industry or the oil industry. all they're trying to do is feed their families. and we support that. so we in all of the legislation, we have many, many millions of dollars to go into those communities to help workers get the training and the education that they need to get jobs that will pay them as much and even more. at the end of the day we've got to move aggressively toward energy efficiency. one of the points the green new deal makes is we have the potential to create millions of good paying jobs as we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel. there are buildings all over new england, homes all over new england that are wasting an enormous amount of energy. we can weatherize those homes. i've been in homes in vermont where fuel went down by 50% because people got the insulation and windows and roofing they needed. millions of people can be helped in that respect. we should invest very significantly in solar and in wind. i know the president thinks that wind turbines cause cancer, only person in the world who happens to believe that, but we can move aggressively toward, and should. wind and solar, we have got to rethink our transportation system and build the kind of state of the art rail system that our country needs which will help us transport people and cargo in a much more nonpolluting way. the bottom line is, this is an issue that we cannot run away from. and of all my disagreements with trump on virtually every issue the idea that he continues to talk about climate change as a hoax or not real is so dangerous and so harmful, not only to our country and the world, the united states of america under a sanders presidency will lead the world in transforming our energy system, create millions of jobs, create a less polluting society. and that is something we have no choice but it's exactly what we have to do. >> all right, let's bring in nathan williams, a senior, studying euro science at harvard, from california, nathan. >> good evening, senator sanders. if elected you would be the oldest president in the history of the united states yet in 2016 the menials favored you strongly over hillary clinton. why do you think young people have been attracted to your campaigns and how will you ensure our voices are represented in your administration. >> young people are very smart, that's clear. i'll tell you what. this is the truth, nathan, when we began the 2016 campaign if anybody thought we had some diabolical plan, how are we going to reach out to young people? not true at all. it just happened because it happened. here's why i think it happened. first of all, your generation is the most progressive generation in the history of this country. your generation more than any previous generation is anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti homophobia, anti religious bigotry and you should be very, very proud of that. but the other thing, and i think that my campaign kind of speaks to the idealism of young people who know that -- who understand what's going on today is not -- we're not where we should be. and young people have a tendency to want to think bigger than older generations. the second point, to be more specific, your generation, unless we turn things around, will be the first generation in the modern history of america to have a lower standard of living than your parents. all right, so what we have seen in recent years is an explosion in technology. we have seen an explosion in worker productivity. but everything being equal many people in your generation will earn less money than your parents, you're going to leave school more deeply in debt than your parents, you're going to have a harder time finding affordable housing than your parents. so the issues that -- and your generation also, obviously, is very, very concerned about climate change and racial justice and immigration reform and so forth. so i think those are some of the reasons why our message has resonated with young people. >> senator sanders, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. all right, we have three town halls down, two more to go tonight. a five-hour, five candidate event. at 11:00 p.m. we'll be hearing from mayor pete buttigieg on this stage. when we come back, senator kamala harris. don lemon o's got that one, nex. did you eat all of your treats? 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