Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20190807

Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20190807

And it can be forgotten. But a few yards behind me, thats a crime scene. Three days ago, nine people lost their live there is. Those wounds still bitter and raw in this community. What will the president do and say . Hes going to meet with First Responders. Hell meet with victims families. The grief and the praying, it is fresh. Many local residents, as a result, are telling cnn theyre not ready yet to host the president. Its only been three days since that gunfire erupted on this street in a popular area of downtown. Nine people dead, dozens of others wounded. All of this happening in under 30 seconds. People here, people across the country, theyre grappling now with whats going to be different in this time. How do you prevent the next shooting so that you and i arent victims next time . Cnn White House Correspondent Kaitlan Collins joins me live here in dayton. The president s coming to a difficult moment here, a divided moment in this country. He said a lot this morning as he was leaving the white house. How is he going to handle this . Thats going to be something he has to grapple with while hes here. I dont mean to interrupt. What are folks behind us saying . Theyre saying do something. Thats what Governor Mike Dewine heard yesterday when he was trying to speak. Thats the emotion here. But please go ahead. Yeah, you see some of the signs critical of the president. Dump trump, flip the senate, talking about the politics in washington thats come under such scrutiny in the wake of these Mass Shootings. The president is going to be following the typical role of a commander in chief. It sadly has been their job too many times after a mass shooting, meeting with Law Enforcement, meeting with families of victims, some of the victims themselves. Also, the president is going to be facing the resistance hes seen from local officials, including the mayor, who have said the president s comments on the Mass Shootings have fallen short of what they expected from him. The president was asked about these criticisms leaving the white house today. He brushed them off as being pure politics. Weve been getting hit left and right from everybody, many of theme i dont know, a couple people from texas, political people from texas that arent doing very well. I guess somebody said i had one very nice conversation with the mayor of dayton. Could not have been nicer. Then she goes and says i tried to call her. Well, i spoke to her and i didnt receive in i call. Theyre trying to make political points. I dont think it works because, you know, i would like to stay out of the political fray. So he says its just all politics. Another question about what is just all politics is whether or not the president is going to stand by the support we saw for him for background checks there as he was leaving the white house. He said thats something he feels theres a growing political appetite in washington for that. The question is, weve seen him before after shootings, like parkland, where hes backed off. And we just found out that Top White House officials have been in conversations with members from the nra leadership in recent days. What is the nra telling them . Just a moment. I dont mean to interrupt. I want to explain whats going on behind us there, as the president walks down the steps of air force one. The president arriving here in dayton, ohio. Youve been hearing behind us what you might describe as a microcosm of the division in this community, perhaps the division in this country right now. You have Trump Supporters here waving a trump flag as protesters demand action. This is the president there being greeted by local officials. I believe thats the governor, mike dewine, on the right, greeting the president and the first lady. As he lands in a community that is divided over the president s visit here. Theyre concerned his rhetoric has added not just to the division but to the violence, the manifesto from the el paso shooter cited language the president himself has used before, describing immigrants as invaders. That is a reason why in el paso and here in dayton, youve heard opposition to the president s visit. What will the president say to heal those wounds, to attempt to heal those wounds . Hes the president up to this moment. Weve heard skepticism, and were certainly seeing the division here on the streets of dayton, as the president arrives. Kaitlan, the president being greeted now by local politicians here. Certainly we saw the republican governor. Theres senator rob portman. Portman is one of those senators whos come out in support of action on gun control. What are the president s plans as hes on the ground here . So far the white house has actually been pretty tight lipped ant what the president is going to be doing. The question is whether or not hes going to come here behind us, where the scene of this shooting happened. That happened in pittsburgh after that sin gynagogue shooti. The white house did not initially disclose the president was going to go there. Then he did. He didnt go all the way inside the synagogue because it was still the scene of a crime. The question is whether or not hes co hell come here. Right now were already seeing people protesting the president , people supporting the president , those people coming face to face with each other, disagreeing right behind us on the very street where this happened. Thats essentially what the president is going to be dealing with. Something thats pretty unusual to see, such a protest of a president when he comes somewhere in a time of tragedy, coming to, what the white house says, to comfort the city. But of course, this is something trump has had to grapple with throughout his presidency, dealing with people who do not want him in their city. We saw it in parkland after the massacre at that high school where a gunman opened fire. Some of the students said they did not think the president should come. We saw it again in pittsburgh when the mayor of that city did not meet with the president , something pretty unusual during that visit. He said it just wasnt the right time for the president to come. Now, you see the mayor of dayton there greeting the president , off the screen to the right. She said she doesnt believe the president has struck the right tone in the wake of the shooting, but shes still going to meet with him. The president has said hes going to meet with Law Enforcement, victims families, First Responders. But what else hes going to do beyond going to a hospital, potentially, is still a question. Its not unlike what the republican mayor, i should note, of el paso said about the president s visit. He had expressed misgivings previously, regarding the president s comments on immigrants. In this context, he said despite those misgivings, this is the president , i will meet with him, but not exactly a riveting endorsement of the president s visit. I think this is a challenge local politicians face. Many of their constituents and ill tell you right now, kaitlan, as we stand here, were seeing some of that skepticism being expressed by constituents and some anger even erupting here in front of the scene of this crime. People opposed to seeing the president here in dayton today. But on the other side, you have folks shouting at them, waving trump flags, welcoming the president here at this time. Its not a friendly interaction. Again, as i said earlier, something of a microcosm of the division were seeing in these communities in the wake of this. The mayor of el paso said, yes, hes president , im going to meet with him, but he noted hed received a slew of angry phone calls and emails from his constituents, people who did not think it was right for the president to come. Of course, white house officials are pushing back on that, saying if the president didnt go visit el paso and he didnt come here to dayton today, he would still be facing criticism. But it is just remarkable that we see the president face such criticism when he goes somewhere. So you see him there waving to people. People at the airport, local officials greeting him, state officials greeting him. The question is going to be whether or not he comes over here where people are angry. Theyre upset. Some of the president s supporters are also here, of course, waving the flags. But if the president comes over here, hes going to come face to face with the very people weve been talking about, people who do not want him in their city right now. The president and first lady now in the president ial limb see limousine, heading to downtown dayton. Our correspondent Jason Carroll is with a growing crowd. As the president landed, weve seen it right behind us, Trump Supporters face to face with people in this community who have been shouting do something. Thats a repeated chant. The republican governor of ohio faced that same chant just yesterday. Jason, tell us what youre hearing from local residents in the midst of this. Not only do you hear some of these protesters shouting do something, but youve also weve also heard from some people driving by in their truck shouting god bles trump. So it really speaks to the split that you see here in this community. Really, across the country. As we were out here, jim, speaking to people across dayton, we really got a sense from a lot of people who had a lot of misgivings about the president coming out here to speak. The misgivings were for several reasons. First of all, some of those we spoke to say, look, weve heard the president after these national tragedes say some of the right things and then shortly thereafter go back to the very same type of rhetoric that they see as being so divisive. The fear is thats exactly what they say is going to happen here again in dayton. I want you to listen to just some of the people that we spoke to, some of the reasons why they say the president should not be here on this day. I think that it is important for him to show that he cares, even if its just for political gain or notoriety that he came to a place a day late and a dollar short, sort of, kind of. Im not a fan of his. Not a fan . Its a hard time. Theres, what, 23 shootings already this year. Too much hate in the world. Too much hate. I want to talk very quickly about daytons mayor. She is expected to meet with the president later this afternoon. Shes been very critical of the president , critical of his policies, critical of his response. We spoke to her yesterday, jim, and got a real sense of where her head is at, at this point. She says she actually had a conversation with the president. She said the two of them talked about where state lawmakers are on the issue of gun control. She says shes really going to have a frank conversation with him, saying that she feels as though his rhetoric has not been helpful in the past. Thats one of the things she says she will talk to him about when she talks to him face to face a little later this afternoon. Were going to be speaking with her shortly after she speaks to the president to get a sense of if her opinion of the president has changed and where she thinks the country is going to be Going Forward after this. Jim . Jason carroll, thanks so much. Just for our viewers sake, i want to explain whats been happening behind us. Keep in mind this is a crime scene. Just three days ago, nine people lost their lives on the pavement right behind me outside the club. In the last several minutes, weve seen a number of protesters come out here with signs opposing the president s visit here as he lands in dayton, ohio. Pitch mitch, flip the senate, dayton loves happy people, dump trump. Do something has been a consistent chant, an expression of the frustration here. They want something done to prevent the next gun attack. As that was happening, we saw a small handful of Trump Supporters waving flags here. Sadly, a bit of a symbol of the tone of the conversation between the two sides. A lot of shouting, even a couple threats exchanged. I will tell you that by and large in this community and in el paso, the conversation ive heard is a very calm one. People saying we want to see what can happen next to prevent this. That is the nature of the conversation, kate, as ive been in both of these communities here. You are seeing the passion. Thats something the president is going to face when hes here. The question, kate, is how does he respond to that passion . Does he act as healer . Does he try to capitalize on it politically . Its one more test for this president , kate. Already seeing how hes answering to at least the criticism as he was leaving the white house today, saying that he believes that his rhetoric is actually bringing people together. But when hes on the ground, when hes meeting with these families and First Responders, whomever hes going to be meeting with, well see exactly what he has to say. Jim, thank you so much for being there. Were going to get back to the ground in dayton in a few minutes. Were going to be following what the president is going to be doing as hes visiting dayton, before he heads to el paso. Coming up for us, you can see just in the video, just behind jim, you can see the anger and the passion spilling over in dayton. Some officials there saying sadness is turning to anger now over the lack of Real Solutions to these attacks, preventing them from happening again. One of those officials will be joining us next. Plus, also ahead, a shocking and bold lie at the worst possible time as the country is grieving and searching for answers and truth and fact. Fox news host claims that White Supremacy is a hoax. The facts clearly say otherwise. It should be called out. It must be called out. And it will be. Stay with us. At tmobile, for 40 line for four lines, its all included for the whole family. Like unlimited with netflix on us. And now with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. 40 line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. Stay on top of things. A faster laptop could help. Plus, tech support to stay worry free. Worry free. 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Help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. Talk to your rheumatologist. Right here. Right now. Humira. Welcome backse, everybody. President trump has toucheddown. Hes in dayton, ohio. Hell be meeting with folks on the ground there. We saw those pictures from the airport. Were seeing a very different scene in downtown dayton, where weve been seeing protests turning out to the site of the tragic attack that played out over the weekend in ohio. Protesters demanding action. Protesters against the president. Also, protesters in support of President Trump. You can just see the anger and the passion flaring up there today as the president lands in dayton, ohio. Were going to be keeping an eye on this, as well as where the president may be going. But when President Trump wraps up in dayton, he will then head to el paso. The white house says there hes going to be meeting with victims families and First Responders. But there are also a number of people in that community who have made it very clear that the president , in their view, is not welcome as the city is grieving the 22 People Killed by a man police say was motivated by hate, whose online screed posted minutes before the attack talked of an imgramigrant invasion of texas, invasion being a word President Trump has used. When faced with this criticism before leaving the white house, heres what the president had to say. Theyre trying to make political points. I dont think it works because, you know, i would like to stay out of the political fray. Joining me right now, Democratic Texas state senator jose rodriguez, whose district includes el paso. Senator, thank you for being here. Thank you for inviting me. I appreciate it. Youve had mixed feelings, is the best way to describe it, about the president visiting el paso today. What are you expecting to happen . Well, i think whats happening in dayton is going to be repeated here in el paso, especially here in el paso because, as you all know, the president has been here before, and when he was here not too long ago, he maligned el paso as being an unsafe city, contrary to the facts. He insulted our mayor. And he has since continued spewi spewing his hateful rhetoric against immigrants. You just said hes used the words invasion of immigrants consistently. He and others, including some people here in this

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