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CNNW At This Hour With Kate Bolduan June 14, 2018

Allegations of violation, they say, of state law and federal Charities Law involving the Trump Foundation, comingling of funds. Lets look at some quotes. The petition filed today alleges a pattern of persistent illegal conduct occurring over more than a decade, that includes extensive unlawful political coordination with the trump president ial campaign, repeated and willful selfdealing transactions to benefit mr. Trumps personal and business interests, and violations of basic legal obligations for nonprofit foundations. It goes on to say, the attorney generals investigation found that the Trump Foundation raised in excess of 2. 8 million in a manner designed to influence the 2016 president ial election at the direction and under the control of Senior Leadership of the trump president ial campaign. And what they are asking for in this is that they are asking for restitution of the 2. 8 million, theyre asking for more penalties beyond that. Theyre asking that the trump be the foundation be dissolved under a court of law, that donald j. Trump is not allowed to have a Charitable Foundation for the next ten years for his three children that are named as defendants for fewer than that, one year each for them. And very serious allegations here, illegal conduct, theyre saying. And we reached out to the white house, the Trump Foundation, his children here in new york, to get a response to all of this. This all happening right now, give them a moment to respond, well wait and hear because the response is going to be necessary, either in public or in a court of law. Jean, thank you so much. Joining me now to react to this is former federal prosecutor shan wu, mark preston and former fbi special agent asha rangappa. Shan, give me your take on this. I think it is important to distinguish between the civil and the criminal here. This is a civil complaint. And that may cause some more problems for the president than the criminal one, you can talk about that later. But there is precedent that he cant stop a civil case from going forward. Thats the ghosts from the clinton era coming back to haunt him. And on the criminal side, i think it is very troubling that theyre talking about this collusion with the senior trump executives with regard to Campaign Donations because that could raise problems with Campaign Finance laws and that has the potential for i think there are two tracks were looking at now. With the 2. 8 million and what jean very perfectly highlighted, they raise in excess of 2. 8 million if a manner designed to influence the 2016 president ial election at the direction and under the control of Senior Leadership of the trump president ial campaign. Does that get back to that iowa fundraiser, is there Something Else . Im not sure. We havent heard the details on what that coordination could have been. I remember that was the night for our viewers, if they remember donald trump refused to participate in a fox news president ial debate in iowa. Instead, held his own rally to say he was raising money for veterans organizations and held a big rally across town. I remember being there. It was packed. You have to wonder, kate, if thats what were talking about here because there was so much made about it, and so much made about how much money he was raising for the veterans organizations. So true. Asha, i think what i was reading, i was reading through the quick take from david farronhold, much of this came out in the intrepid reporting at the Washington Post and what he uncovered. In his in davids piece in the Washington Post about this lawsuit, Barbara Underwood, it says she set a 20month investigation was undertaken. What kind of concrete evidence are they looking for to come out with such a Statement Like this . Well, this is the kind of case where you follow the money. When you have a Charitable Foundation as the president does, you have irs filings, you have state filings to show where the money is going. Remember that private foundations raised money, mostly, from private donors who are coming in and theyre told that your money is going to go to x, y or z. If that money is instead funneled back around, their donations are funneled back around into your own businesses, then you start to violate the laws that are in place to prevent using charities for selfdealing. And new york has one, it is called the nonprofit revitalization act and it basically prevents using money for purposes that are in which you have a personal interest. So campaign expenditures, trump properties, businesses, all of those things would create conflicts under these kinds of laws. And, shan, you were talking about the difference between civil lawsuit and criminal here, you said this is civil. What is the difference . What does it mean for donald trump . I think what it means for the president is there is precedent that says a sitting president cannot stop the progress of a civil case. That was the paula Jones Supreme Court decision. So here, as were seeing with some of these civil suits, he may have to do combat. Hes got to litigate those, may have to give depositions, his team is going to object to that. They may try to make an argument that the sheer volume of it means that it needs to go to the Supreme Court to be decided. Of course, thats rather illogical on its face. It would indicate if the Supreme Court sides with him, the worse the conduct is, the more protection you deserve. On the criminal side, if this turns into a criminal investigation of Campaign Finance violations, a sitting president probably does have the protection against being indicted or being pulled into a grand jury which gets us back into some of the questions being raised in the russian probe. Those are the two differences. Important differences and distinctions now. Mark, im trying to im trying to remember back how donald trump and his family reacted when these reports were coming out, throughout the election and afterward and i was just handed and reminded that at a press conference in may of 2016, donald trump, when asked about the he said he gave close to 6 million to Veterans Group and that comes from the charity were discussing, the charitable event were discussing, when it comes to when it came to folks questioning him, he said you should be ashamed folks should be ashamed of themselves for asking questions about the money he donated. And, of course, he went on he went on to say ive never received such bad publicity for doing such a good job. All of that is now coming back. I just want to highlight that. We have yet to hear from the president , yet to hear from anyone in the white house or counsel. Well, and thats been his goto, right . It is a personal attack on me, this is being driven by democratic interests, how dare you question me, you know, do as i say, not as i do. That has been his strategy, his Defense Strategy since he started running for president. You know, since he really popped on to the scene, when you go back to the late 70s, 80s and 90s and what have you. What is interesting about this new filing that were seeing today, is this. This didnt just pop up. As you noted, this investigation has been going on for 20 months. Just because the former attorney general Eric Schneiderman, forced out of office, to resign, over allegations of abuse, and we have this new attorney general who is just got in there, doesnt mean that she decided to drop this today. This office has been looking into this for well over a year as well as many other situations with the trump situation. So we should not be surprised that this would have dropped today. Asha, what happens now. What questions do you have . My question now is how does this relate to just the bigger pattern that were seeing. And on a number of different fronts. Shan mentioned the Campaign Finance issues, we see that that is an issue that is popping up also in the Stormy Daniels lawsuit. The selfdealing, there is a separate lawsuit that is suing the president for violating the emoluments clause of the constitution. This is not a oneoff. To the point just made, i think that one thing to learn from this is that when you have investigations, they take on a life of their own and just because a prosecutor leaves doesnt mean the investigation gets dropped. You have Barbara Underwood come in, an on going investigation, this is a lesson to be taken when looking at the russia probe also that removing people doesnt necessarily stop the investigation. And Important News on its face of this lawsuit now being filed and there might be a lot of messages and lessons to be learned beyond this. Much more to come, thank you, i appreciate it. 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Breaking news, new York Attorney general files a lawsuit against donald trump and his Adult Children and donald trump is now responding. Lets get over to the white house. Ryan nobles is there. Ryan, what is the president saying . Reporter the president has taken pretty much a low profile since he returned back from singapore. But hes got a lot to say on twitter this morning. Hes responded to that lawsuit that was filed in new york. He also seems to be setting the stage in terms of expectations for that Inspector General report that is expected to be out later this afternoon. Let me read the tweets from the president. First one, now this im back from singapore, where we had a great result, with respect to north korea, the thought process must now go back to the witchhunt. Always remembering there was no collusion, and no obstruction, and of the fabricated no crime. He goes on to say, so the democrats make up a phony crime, collusion with the russians, pay a fortune to make the crime seem real, illegally leak, comey in parentheses, classified information so the special counsel will be appointed and then taking on a life of its own in the fake news. Then he responds to this lawsuit, just filed in new york state, he says, quote, the sleazy new york democrats and their now disgraced and run out of town ag Eric Schneiderman are doing everything they can to sue me on the foundation that took in 18 million and gave it to charity, more money than i took in, 19 million, i wont settle this case. Schneiderman who ran the Clinton Campaign in new york never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost two years. Now he resigned in disgrace and his disciples brought it when we would not settle. So the president making it very clear where he stands on this lawsuit, telling everyone via twitter he does not plan to settle. This, of course, a very important day for the president , kate. Hes been waiting and highly anticipating the release of this ig report. He said he hoped it would be a good Birthday Gift for him. Today being his 72nd birthday. What were hearing is the president s legal team is going to huddle once they get a copy of that report and go through it line by line to determine exactly mao this impacts the president and his white house. They will come here to the white house to meet with the president one on one and talk about what they found and then release some sort of a response as a result. Now, we did have a brief conversation this morning with Deputy Press Secretary hogan giddily. He said hes not seen the report yet, but the president hopes for transparency as a result of this report. So still waiting to find out exactly when the white house is going to see that report, the president expected to be briefed personally by the Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein on that report. Have not seen rosenstein yet. So a lot of people waiting here with anticipation as to exactly how the white house is going to respond to this. Perhaps were getting a preview through the president s twitter feed this morning. Stay close to it, ryan. It will not stop anytime soon. Ryan, thank you so much. As ryan mentioned, it is President Trumps 72nd birthday. Nothing says birthday like cake, ice cream and a 500 page report. Thats what donald trump was wishing for this year, and the ig is releasing the long anticipated report on the Justice Departments handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. An internal look and trump is already making clear what hes hoping for. Look, hes a very dishonest man. Ive been saying it for a long time. I think i did our country a great favor when i fired him. And well see what happens. Well see what the report says. But i guess it just got announced it is coming out on june 14th. So that will be maybe a nice birthday present. Who knows. Well know soon. The president was trying to build up anticipation for the report, just last week, with this tweet. What is taking so long with the Inspector Generals report . Numerous delays. Hope report is not being changed and made weaker. There are so many horrible things to tell, the public has a right to know. This week his new attorney Rudy Giuliani went even further. First thing were going to get is the report from Inspector General horowitz about comeys handling of hillary, which i think is going to be very, very critical. I think it should be. Comey really had a chance to be prosecuted as a result of this, but well see. So now what . Joining me now justice reporter Shimon Prokupecz with as much detail as we have at this moment. What are you hearing about the details coming out in the report. This report, kate, it has been a year in the making. And certainly fbi officials that ive talked to hoped this gives them that reset under the current new leadership that has taken over the fbi. And the key issue here with this Inspector Generals report is going to be how he addresses the question of whether any decisions by the fbi or the Justice Department were motivated by any bias perhaps or politics. Now, as you know, the president said the investigation into Hillary Clinton was rigged and biased in her favor. Less than three hours we will get to see if that is supported by any evidence. The 500 page report we have been told will show that the fbi and its former leaders along with the leadership of the department of justice quite frankly mismanaged the investigation. The report will be critical of then fbi director james comey for holding that press conference, where he announced the results of the clinton email investigation. The report looked at the decision by comey also to tell lawmakers just days before the november 2016 election that the fbi had reopened the clinton investigation. Remember, that happened after the fbi found emails on Anthony Weiners laptop. Were told that the report is critical of former attorney general loretta lynch. She had that infamous tarmac meeting with bill clinton during the campaign. As the fbi was investigating his wife, now members of congress are getting a preview of this report, and then it will finally be made public around 2 00. The curr

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