Transcripts For CNNW At This Hour With Berman And Michaela 2

CNNW At This Hour With Berman And Michaela December 29, 2014

Londons gatwick airport. That flight, a very large plane, a 747, 400 jumbo, has landed safely. Earlier a spokesman said it had problems with the landing gear. I think you can see that picture right there of that landing gear not fully deployed. Yes, absolutely. That landing gear there not fully deployed. The plane did have time to return safely to london. The plane now on the ground and, of course you can see it right there. The airline says the priority is the safety of the passengers. Glad to see the plane on the ground. A relief there but not so much in Southeast Asia where we turn now. The Aerial Search for miss inging airasia flight 8501 has been called off. 162 people were on board that flight. It vanished from radar after taking off from the indonesian city of surabaya en route to singapore. The pilot requested a higher altitude due to weather. That request was denied because there was already a plane at that higher altitude. Communication with the jetliner was lost shortly thereafter. This morning indonesian Officials Say their early conjecture is that the plane is at the bottom of the java sea. Those are their words. Really though at this point no concrete evidence pointing in any one direction or another. We have a reporter at the surabaya airport where the flight originated. David, give us a sense of the latest. Hey, john and michaela. As you mentioned, search efforts suspended for the night, at least terms of the Aerial Search. Whats critical to note is the next few hours of the search as it becomes daylight and we head into tuesday, the second full day of searching will be critical. The indonesian Vice President was here a short time ago, a few hours ago, spoke to my colleague andrew stevens, said this is still a searchandrescue mission, emphasis on the rescue. But were about 40 hours from the time the plane took off on monday morning, vanished about an hour into its flight and no trace of wreckage, no trace of the plane. We talk a lot about an investigation, what happened what went wrong. At this point we dont know where the aircraft is. We talked to officials like that ceo tony hearn december and he says i want to speculate, we need to find the aircraft and hope for survivors. I know youve had a chance to talk to some of the families that are there awaiting any word of their loved one. When they still hear hear that this is still being tipified as a search and rescue operation, does it make the wait even more agonizing for them . Michaela i thinking aize inning is a good word to describe what weve seen here today. Surabaya International Airport here just next to the terminal behind she the Crisis Center for airasia. This is where family members have come and gotten briefings, weve seen tears, hugs. The general sentiment from various family members weve had a chance to speak to briefly is that there is hope that their loved ones have survived but the hope is fleeting. I have to tell you one thing that touched me they have the passenger manifest all 155 passengers on board posted outside this building and you look down the list its holiday time here you see two, three, four five even six members of the same family, same last name on that board. So if they do find wreckage and the aircraft was lost some families are going to be facing some very difficult days ahead. Of course hope persevering and the search picking up just a few hours from now. John and michaela. How devastating to know whole families could be on that plane. Well we know the u. S. Navy says it is ready to assist in the search for flight 8501. So far it has not been asked to help. One of the staging areas for Search Operations is on Indonesias Belitung island. Our Paula Hancocks is there with the latest on whats happening. The searchandrescue operation for the missing airasia plane has grown incise this monday. Were at the airport on the island of belitung and you can see the military helicopters have been coming in all day, also some searchandrescue helicopters. What theyre basically doing is going out on sorties, coming back here to refuel have a briefing to find out where they should be going next and heading off. This is becoming one of the staging areas for this searchandrescue operation. This island is one of the closest areas to that last point of contact the plane had. This is the area that much of the searchandrescue operation is focusing on. According to one official we just spoke to the search area now is 240 by 240 nautical miles so a very large area. Theyre cordoning it off, sectioning it off to make sure theres no overlap, to make sure they dont miss any areas. Theyre doing this very systematically. Now i did speak to first Marshal Supriyadi and he says that at this point they havent managed to narrow this search down. Were still searching all areas. Later if we get new data that leads too a specific location we can narrow it down. I asked the first marshal if he believe there iss the possibility of any survivors still. He said if the plane crashed in water it is unlikely but if it managed to crash on land maybe in the jungles to the east of here then survivors are possible. Paula hancocks cnn Belitung Island indonesia. Our thanks to paula for that. Such a big search area paula was talking about and we know the weather has been rough. Very rough there in recent days. So whats the situation now and how will it affect the search efforts. . Lets bring in chad myers at the cnn weathercenter. Chad, what do things look like right now and tomorrow at first light . What will they see then . I was very encouraged by the pictures that we just saw from paula how things have really calmed down. The winds have calmed down they have been rough, the seas have been rough, this is a shallow part. In youve ever thought about lake erie where lake miami is deep and theres rollers, lake erie all those waves are very sharp because the waves bounce off the bottom and you get a sharper steeper wave action tomorrow will be a much better day for ships. Remember, theres still those pingers throughout theyll be looking for as well. We learned about those on mh370. This plane had a very rough trip. Im sure the pilot just said keep your seat belts on the entire time. Flying through significant thunderstorms 50,000 feet tall at times, trying to fly around them. Theres a radar on the plane. The pilots can see where the turbulence would be, where the thunderstorm shafts would be trying to get around those or between those. But this was a very wide area of turbulence 50 to 75 miles either side of this airplane and it was a very rough ride and then eventually something went very wrong as that plane did lose contact. It was i would say the upanddown winds of what we call the itcz, the intertropical convergence zone. Its the the same place, different part of the world but the same area of weather air france went down five years ago in the itcz where air comes together from two different directions. Cant go down because the earth is there. That rise in motion creates turbulence big thunderstorms and created that weather that created something very wrong up there in the sky. Guys . As we know and weve heard our aviation experts say, its not just one thing that brings down an airliner. I want to give you a look at other stories were following at this hour. Hundreds of passengers have been rescued from a burning ferry in the adrast seven people are dead. One passenger said it was like being aboard t tiehe titanic. Many people had to wait for 35 hours for rescuers to reach them. Reportedly they could feel the fire below their feet. With well have more on this ahead. An intense manhunt is under way in los angeles. Someone fired shots at two lapd officers last night as they drove their patrol car. Both officers doing okay right now. One suspect has been arrested but teams of officers now on the hunt for a second suspect believed to be armed and dangerous. In fact the department is telling people in parts of l. A. To stay inside until they find this suspect. Were targeted. It these are live pictures from the graduation ceremony. This comes amid heightened tensions between mayor and the nypd. Two days ago you may recall hundreds of officers turned their backs to a video monitor as the mayor jeweleulogized Slain Police Officer officers wenjian liu and officer ramos. Many feel the mayor has sided with protesters over the police. We where l bring you any major developments. We are following the search for airasia flight 8501, a leaked image is raising questions about the final moments before this flight lost contact. Why this why a picture that of radar imaging could show that the jet was at risk of stalling midflight. You likely have question about airasia, you can tweet them to us use the hashtag 8501qs or post them on our facebook page. Well try to get you answers ahead at this hour. As serge crews in the java sea rest and prepare to look for the missing airasia jet, another search continues for reason why they lost contact with air Traffic Control and disappeared from radar. Look at this picture here. There are people who do believe it might provide some clues as to what went wrong. What weve also been able to obtain from some pilots is a radar printout of the aircraft and what it shows is this particular flight at an altitude of 36,000 feet and climbing. But traveling at approximately 105 miles per hour, too slow to sustain flight. So it looks like on this radar evidence that we have that he was involved in some upset, High Altitude aerodynamic upset. Lets talk about this. I want to bring in our safe di analyst david soucie and also mary schiavo. David, i cant read air Traffic Control radar but what that shows is that as that plane was ascending to 36,000 feet it was probably flying about 100 miles an hour too slowly to be at that altitude. What problems could that create if thats in fact what happened . Well its a Pretty Simple problem because what happens is the air over the top of the wing is what creates the lift. The speed of the air over the top of the wing. If the air is not going well over the top of the wing not going at a high enough speed theres similarly not enough lift to lift the aircraft up and thats what happens in a stall is the air is either disrupted the word you used was stall. So it could cause the plane to stall if its fly too slowly at that altitude . A stall in this situation is much worse. In n a stall situation if your power is not on, if you pulled power back and the aircraft is angling up and it stalls thats a recoverable stall. In this situation the power was evidently on full power trying to climb and it had climbed too rapidly and thats when it stalled. If it stalls with power on its a much more dangerous situation to be in. Lets run with this supposition for a second mary. Arent pilots trained to deal with stalls . Gould through those scenarios in training would you not . Well they are trained to deal with it. Its some of the most basic training you get in the first days of flight school. However, these pilots were in a tough situation. They were climbing through horrific thunderstorms, their engines, turbines would be ingesting lots of rain they would have wind shifting dramatically i think some of the weather charts saw one minute it was a 40 miles an hour head wind then a 20 miles an hour tail wind and theres all sorts of winds going on. That contributes to the lack of performance on the engines. So as they try to recover, one of the things they have to do is, of course get the nose down let the air speed increase. But at some point if you put too much pressure on those engines and the plane in climb if youre climbing too fast for example, you can make it so you cant recover and cant get the engines to recover from the stall and you cant get the air flow enough back over the wing. So just dependsen what they were doing in the cockpit while they were trying to deal with this . It sounds like what mary is laying south the combination of factors we always talk about. Its never one thing but a combination of factors. So enough weather problem, we know there was a weather concern, at least, the pilots asked to fly above it or at least around it. Now we have that radar image that shows that perhaps it was flying too slowly. So again you put all of this together, you start to perhaps paint a picture of what went wrong. Right. Theres a couple of ways thats rivered to. One of them is a swiss cheese model. What that is that if you picture a piece of swiss cheese and in that swiss cheese it has holes and those are holes in the safety systems. Theres layers of swiss cheese to prevent any particular thing from going through all of that and causing the end, which is the accident. Occasionally when the holes all line up thats when you have an accident when theres holes in each of those safety levels the last being the pilots ability to recover. Mary, thats why a lot of people at home would be wondering, look we understand there was a lot of air traffic through there, other planes were able to get through this horrific weather, these terrible thunderstorms just fine but because maybe of this swiss cheese idea all of those factors didnt likene up for those other planes . Thats exactly right. In every air crash ive worked on its always been a combination of factors. Its almost never just one thing and when it is weather often what you have is something with the plane, some kind of a quirk. For example, this plane has a warning on the attitude indicators in other words the tubes on the side of the plane that take in air and let the pilot know whether she or he is nose up or nose down. For example, if those had a problem at the same time the pilot was trying to recover it would be very difficult, if not impossible to recover. Mary david, well ask you to stay with us. Well put some viewer questions to you a little later at this hour. And if you have questions out there about this search for the missing airasia flight, put them on twitter, the hashtag is 8501qs. Another story were following, Los Angeles Police are on high alert after two officers were shot at. A search is on for a man considered armed and dangerous. Many are wondering if Law Enforcement is being targeted after the deaths of eric garner and michael brown. Well explore that ahead. The Holiday Season is here, which means its time for the volkswagen signthendrive event. For practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a germanengineered volkswagen. Like the sporty, advanced new jetta. And the 2015 motor trend car of the year allnew golf. If youre wishing for a new volkswagen this season. Just about all you need is a finely tuned. Pen. Hurry in to the sign then drive event and get a fivehundred dollar new years bonus on select new volkswagen models. Offer ends january 2nd. Youre driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. One second it wasnt there and the next second. Boom youve had your first accident. Now you have to make your first claim. So you talk to your Insurance Company and. Boom youre blindsided for a second time. They wont give you enough money to replace your brand new car. Dont those people know youre already shaken up . Liberty mutuals new car replacement will pay for the entire value of your car plus depreciation. Call and for drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Switch to Liberty Mutual insurance and you could save up to 423 dollars. Call Liberty Mutual for a free quote today at see Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Happening now in los angeles, scores of police engaged in an intense manhunt for a suspect who might have shot at officers overnight. This happened as the officers were in their patrol car, neither was hurt luckily. One suspect is in custody. Police are telling folks in south l. A. To stay inside as they hunt for a second suspect. All of this comes barely a week after two new York City Police officers were shot and killed as they sat in their police cruiser. Obviously theres an added sense of tension and urgency in the search ongoing in los angeles. Our sara sidner is in l. A. And she joins us now. Sara lets talk about this. Whats the latest in terms of the effort to find a second suspect . Do Police Believe the suspect is still armed . The police are still looking for the second suspect. They have one suspect in custody and they have found a weapon as well. Were not sure exactly what that weapon is but they have found a firearm as well. And i will let you know that they expect to take some of this police tape down the next ten minutes or so so theyre wrapping some things up and interviewing the officers who were involved in the shooting. Both of them were driving along, they were in their black and white patrol car going to another call. They said these two people they were looking for had nothing to do with the call that they were going on. They then said that they saw the flash from a muzzle of a gun and then they were fired upon. And they said it was completely unprovoked that they were not involved with these two suspects in any way, shape, or form. They werent on a call that involved them so it was a surprise to these officers they were not hurt and they did manage to fire a gun at the suspects as well and did manage to get one of the suspects in custody. We also talked to a detective a little bit about exactly what theyre feeling now, the police in particular when it comes to the level of danger that they face considering what happened in new york and here is what she had to say. I dont know that they necessarily feel that theyre becoming targets because of whats going on around the nation although you know last week we had two new york Police Officers that were killed so its undeniable that were aware that there are a very small, small, small percentage of people out there that are so angry at the police that theyre willing to hurt them. And we did talk to someone in the neighborhood who talked about that and said that there are a few people here who do mean to do harm to Police Officers. Mic

© 2025 Vimarsana