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battle lines are being drawn between likely general election rivals hillary clinton and donald trump but it is not just battle lines between trump and clinton. there is still a war waging between trump and factions of his own party. >> the presumptive republican nominee is starting to shop for running mates and some republicans are also shopping for someone else. a plan c to run against donald trump and hillary clinton. one popular republican senator is now even openly calling for a let's begin with cnn's phil mattingly. he is in columbus, ohio, for us to emergency. good morning, phil. >> reporter: good morning, john. even before john kasich announced just about three miles away from right here in columbus that he was no longer in the republican race, the never trump movement has been pinging around questions, what do they do next? now, this suspect a group that is completely unified, but they do have conversations and sources in multiple factions of the groups have said a third-party candidate is an option. it is an option that was really put in great detail on facebook last night by ben sasse, the nebraska senator who at times has been the chief donald trump antagonist throughout social media, in public, questioning truch's candidacy saying last night explicitly he thinks a third-party candidate should be an option. typing at one point, if you are one of those rare souls who genuinely believes hillary clinton and donald trump are honorable people, if they are the role models you want for your kids, then this letter is not for you. instead, this letter is for the majority of americans who wonder why the nation that put a man on the moon can't find a healthy leader who can take us forward together. obviously ben sasse with some strong feelings on this issue. guys, it is an interesting c conundrum this this never trump movement faces. there is no candidate for them in the republican race. what kind of options do they have for a third party? it brings up a thicket of legal issues when you talk about ballot access, donor issues when you talk about funding a campaign to go up against likely billion dollar operations on the republican and democratic side, and also coalescing around a candidate. now, a number of people i have talked to have tossed out a lot of names. ben sasse something among them. something he has personally shot down. but who can everybody in this group of people coalesce behind? that is the big question that nobody seems to have a real answer to right now, and, guys, time is of the essence. if you want to get on the ballot and have an opportunity to run, you need a candidate. >> and to get on the ballot in some of these states, you need a candidate and you need it fast, like right now. >> you needed it like a month ago frankly. >> or that. but still like three days from now some deadlines are seriously coming up. phil, thank you so much. phil mattingly on it for us. let's discuss. new york city councilman joseph borel borelli, republican strategist and former chief of staff to senator mitch mcconnell, josh holmes, and cnn political commentator and former campaign manager for hillary clinton in 2008 patti solis doyle and dan pfeiffer senior adviser to president obama. john berman turned to me so dramatically i lost my train of thought. >> i was riveted by your introductions. josh holmes, what phil is talking about here, the third-paerthird third-party candidate. this is a real conversation and very unusual, but you're hearing it from people that -- ben sasse, the republican party really, really likes him. bill kristol, he is a very strong voice. bill kristol of "the weekly standard" all talking about this but how real is this? >> the anxiety is very really. we're 48 hours removed with everybody coming to grips that trump is likely to be the nominee in a matter of weeks. i think there's a little bit of growing pains involved. as to a third party, i have tons of respect for senator sasse, he's been incredibly consistent all along on this and virtually everything else but the issue is how do you get on all of these ballots in all these states? if we're talking about it, i think we should talk about it after we see evidence of people fanned out across the country to get signatures to get on ballots. it's a huge endeavor that's extremely unlikely for anybody to actually undertake and beyond that what was mentioned earlier about actually picking a candidate, that's not unimportant to that process too. >> so councilman, you know, you said yesterday to us that this would all work itself out as part of a natural healing process. but these people like ben sasse of nebraska and bill crass tokr asked him this morning, he essentially said he's unhealable. what they have cannot be healed through any process. >> you're never going to get 0 100% of republicans to -- >> but that's one of the magazines that writes for the party. >> i agree with the previous speaker, it's an impossibility. how does someone get 900,000 signatures over the next month, weeks? they have to raise money. they have to find a candidate they can all coalesce around. who could that be? is it someone in the establishment? doesn't it undermine their whole argument? it's really an impossibilitity. people are going to be left with a choice, donald trump, hillary clinton. the majority of those conservatives -- even if they have to hold their nose, they're going to vote for donald trump. >> interesting, maybe looking from the democratic side, dan, how damaging do you think the conversation of a third-party candidate is or how much -- how damaging do you hope it is? >> well, look, i think -- i don't think the conversation is damaging or not damaging. i don't think it matters a whole lot. a third-party candidate would be absolutely devastating for trump's chances, of course. look, the republican party is incredibly divided. i agree with josh that the idea that these guys who have failed to mount any sort of coherent strategy effort to stop trump are somehow going to in the next few weeks raise a bunch of money, get organizers working in every state in every part of the country to get someone on the ballot seems impossible. you already see it with these vulnerable republican senators who are coming to terms with and endorsing donald trump in the first few hours here. everyone is going to have to get on board. trump still has huge vulnerabilities, huge deficit to make up to have a real shot in this election, but at the end of the day donald trump is the republican nominee. he's in charge of the republican party, and every member of the party with the possible exception of ben sasse will be out there campaigning for donald trump. >> well, we'll see about that because a lot of them at this point, dan, say not so fast. >> might have other things to do. >> we want to talk a little bit about policy right now because donald trump has been sort of the presumptive nominee for all of 24 hours, and he already seems to have shifted some. specifically on the subject of the minimum wage. wolf blitzer asked him about the minimum wage. previously he had said -- he said he actually thought the wages were too high. >> too high. then needed to stay -- where the minimum wage needed to stay. >> now listen to what he told wolf. >> i'm actually looking at that because i'm very different from most republicans. i mean, you have to have something you can live on. what i'm really looking to do is get people great jobs so they make much more money than that, so they make much more money than the $15. now, if you start playing around too much with the lower level, the lower level number, you're not going to be competitive. >> if you were president what would you recommend? >> i'm looking at it but -- >> you're open to raising the minimum wage. >> i'm open to doing something with it. >> patti, what he was essentially saying is he was open to the idea of perhaps raising the minimum wage. he would explore it. there are people and people who ran the republican primary who will say that's a flip-flop or pivot. but doesn't this present one of the problems for democrats now running against donald trump, that his positions, he may be willing to change them to be more acceptable to a general election audience. >> you know, i don't think the american people are stupid, john. i think there is so much film on donald trump saying these crazy, outrageous things, not just in terms of, you know, the american people make too much money when they haven't gotten a raise in 15 years, but also on immigration and mass deportation, on isis and, you know, giving the world nuclear bombs. i don't think they're stupid. so i honestly think that this is where hillary clinton is going to shine. she not only has been consistent in her policies, but she's also answered the question on how to get these things done, and donald trump hasn't gone anywhere near on how to answer those questions. >> she wasn't for the $15 minimum wage nationally and then she sort of was-ish. >> but, joe, on the opposite side of it, councilman, you have these three different views that we're hearing from donald trump on this issue. when you look at it, are you worried that this is kind of exactly -- feeds into exactly what ted cruz before he dropped out said, that donald trump, one, will say anything to get elected. this is his general election pivot. or two, donald trump is a liberal in republican clothes? >> if you listen to what he says, he says he wants to raise wages for people period. that doesn't necessarily mean a strict legislative minimum wage increase for people. >> to wolf's question he did push him and you do have to push trump to get him to say a declarative statement sometimes. you're hope to raising the minimum wage. >> imowe ho'm hoping to do some with it. >> hillary clinton walked her positions back on the same issue. she walked back her votes to send troops to war. when you compare the two candidates, the american people aren't stupid. they have seen, digested, and know hillary clinton. i think they're going to go with someone new and willing to make the decisions to affect middle-class change. donald trump has been speaking to that point and i think it's been working for him. >> john mccain speaking at a closed fund-raiser essentially said with donald trump at the top of the ticket, it would make it the race of his life. he's running for re-election in arizona. 30% of the population is hispanic there. he says it's the race for his life there. john mccain thinks he's in trouble. do you think that extends past arizona for republicans down ballot? >> look, i think it's a statement of the obvious when you've got somebody on the top of the ticket, literally the only republican running for president this cycle who trailed hillary clinton throughout and as your poll pointed out yesterday, trails by double digits. obviously there is a huge headwind for a lot of senate candidates and congressional candidates down the ticket. i think senator mccain is going to be just fine. he's got a well-established reputation within arizona. they know him. he's got good relationship there is. he certainly spent a lot of time at home tending to his own knitting. i don't think donald trump simply being on the ballot will affect people like senator mccain but it certainly makes it more difficult for everybody. >> see what they do about it as they head into the general. joe, unfortunately, we'll get your take on it next time. >> councilman, josh, patti, and dan, thanks so much. he is a former presidential candidate who supported marco rubio this year. now he says he is ready to back donald trump. but will other republicans follow suit? we're joined by former minnesota governor tim pawlenty shortly. >> professionally known as t. paw. plus, donald trump is on the hunt. trump says he would consider former rivals to be his running mate so what are the chances? oh, don't worry, trump tells us precisely what he says the odds are. but would a rival like marco rubio sign on? let us take you to the not so distant past. >> this is a con job where he's going to americans that are struggling, americans that are hurting, and he's implying i'm fighting for you because i'm a tough guy. a tough guy? this guy inherited $200 million. he's never faced any struggle. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them. there is only one place where real and amazing live. seaworld. real. amazing but you can count on our 1,000 americas and canadas best value inns for room discounts, upgrades, instant rewards, and a home town touch. unity schmoonity. that's what some republicans say by coalescing around donald trump. the bush presidents are saying they're going nowhere near an endorsement. >> let's bring in tim pawlenty, former republican presidential candidate, former support of senator marco rubio and now governor pawlenty, someone who says you will support donald trump in the general election, but what exactly does that mean, support donald trump? how much are you going to do with that support? >> good morning, kate. good morning, john. i have said all along i'm going to support the nominee. he's going to be the nominee and i don't know what form or shape that will take. i'm happy to help. i don't agree with everything he says, i don't agree with all of his positions, i don't agree with the way he says a lot of things but he's going to be better than hillary clinton and i support him. >> what do you say to the folks who are burning their republican cards today? >> what's true in may may evolve by october. most of the people who are hesitant will support him by fall, not everybody. but he doesn't need to get everybody. isn't it interesting, kate, the double standard. when the establishment gets their candidate, they always call upon the outsiders and the more conservative people to say, come on, to unite the party you've got to come and join our candidate. now the shoe is on the other foot. you have the outsider who got the nomination and they're calling upon the establishment to unite and all of a sudden elements of the establishment are saying, no, not this time because it didn't go out our way. there's a real double standard at play. >> what kind of pressures are elected officials facing, particularly people in tough senate races. kelly ayotte, she says she will support donald trump but not endorse donald trump. what pressures do you think they're feeling right now? >> well, i'm sure they're feeling some political schizophrenia because they're in tight races up for re-election and they're trying to measure to what degree the trump candidacy will be a plus or minus. they're hedging their bets trying to say they're somehow loyal to the nominee but trying to create some space in case in a negative for an anchor around your political ankles. >> not an easy position to be in. the short list for vps for the running mate for donald trump, governor. jim acosta got a short list of them. on all the folks on the short list so far that we have, they basically all came out in the last 24 hours saying no, thank you. you've been on short lists before. do you believe the no thank yous? >> no. i think if donald trump has a plausible chance to win the election and hillary clinton is the front-runner but who knows, he might be able to pull this off, i think people will evolve their thinking if they actually get asked. >> do you think donald trump doesn't have a plausible chance right now? >> he does. obviously the polls show she's in the lead but you got to drill down on the swing states as you all know, not just the national polls, and he's behind. but that's according to traditional analysis, traditional assumptions and traditional calculations, and he's going to try to do the nontraditional rescrambling of the map. so it's plausible but she has to be fairly described on today's polling as the front-runner. >> you about you don't know the nos mean anything right now. got some news, donald trump announced a national finance chair. that person steve nuchin, he's going to be raising money for donald trump. the release notes that donald trump self-funded the primary campaign largely although he did accept donations. this time around he's going to do the same thing but he is appointing a national chair. it indicates there will be a more robust fund-raising operation. do you think this idea he shifted from self funding to raising money, will that hurt? >> well, it's not going to help, but to put it in context, even for a billionaire if you had to finance a billion dollars yourself, that could get to be a challenge. his reports indicate he's got $300 million in liquid assets. anyhow, i think he's making a calculation he can't write a check for $1 billion between now and october so it's born ever necessity. it's not ideal. it's not optimal compared to what he has said in the past but i think he's got to do it. >> especially when he says that money makes you, you know, you always call in favors when you call in money from anyone. >> can he raise enough? do you think he can raise enough? >> keep in mind there's a role of the third parties here, the rnc and others who can take much bigger checks much more quickly. you have to look at it as a total pot of money and time is short but he's going to have to raise close to $1 billion in six months and it's just going to be physically very difficult. >> governor, that might be where you need to help with your support. that might be where you'll be called upon. >> if he's counting on me for that kind of money, i think it's going to fail because i don't have it. >> thanks, governor. >> appreciate, it governor. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> one programming note, house speaker paul ryan is going to join jake tapper on "the lead" at 4:00 eastern. that should be interesting. the veepstakes, sounds like a neat reality show, but it is the next crucial phase of the 2016 race, and donald trump, he is talking about it. what he needs in a running mate and who fits the profile. that's ahead. plus, hillary clinton taking aim at donald trump, calling him, quote, a loose cannon. but what about bernie sanders? does she need to worry more about that race? a top campaign official from the clinton team joins us next. thope to see you again soon.. whoa, whoa, i got this. just gotta get the check. almost there. i can't reach it. if you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. what? it's what you do. i got this. thanks, dennis! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. growwwlph. it's what you do. oh that is good crispy duck. shoshow me more like this.e. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. i don't think we can take a risk on a loose cannon like donald trump running our country. he's a loose cannon. i mean, he's somebody who has said so many things, and i'm sure he'll be scrambling and his advisers will be scrambling, but he's already said all of these things. he is a loose cannon and loose cannons tend to misfire. >> you heard it right there. hillary clinton rolling out some new lines of attack on donald trump calling him a loose cannon, a risky choice, and saying some of his proposals are downright dangerous. >> mrs. hillary clinton fistill faces fights on two fronts, one against donald trump and also still against bernie sanders, who says he's not going anywhere. joining us now to discuss, a spokesman for the hillary clinton campaign, brian fallon. let's talk about the path ahead, but first you have to play our favorite game. what's our favorite game? it's called finish the sentence. when cruz and kasich dropped out, your first thought was -- >> it's on. in reality i don't think it was a surprise that donald trump is the presumptive nominee of the republican party. we've been bracing for that prospect for several weeks. it's been clear his delegate lead has been significant, and i think that the fact that the field is now winnowed to one justifies the steps we were already taking to prepare for a general election. we've actually been hiring campaign managers in many of the battleground states for the last couple weeks, and we just today announced the battleground team that will be leading the effort out of our headquarters in brooklyn. and so we are going to be on a dual track. we're going to honor the primary, continue to contest these states against senator sanders all the way through the middle of june, but at the same time we're going to be undertaking these general election preparations because we know we need to be ready. everybody thinks of november as when the general election is happening but in reality you have early voting in many states starting in september. so we have a plan to have people on the ground this summer in order to execute on a field program. >> in reality, you could make the case the general election started on may 4th, which is yesterday, at least on that side. you said it's on. i assume you said it with more passion when it actually happened than you did right now. >> and an expletive. >> this had to be earlier than you anticipated, yes? >> well, we learned a long time ago to not be surprised by anything that happened on the republican side. we're going to honor our primary. we think that we have every confidence at the end of the process our party will come together. >> does it change anything about the way you maneuver. >> it is a fundamentally different race today. >> we were taking plans to run against donald trump regardless. i think it succeeded even our expectations the degree of divisions you have seen play out in the republican party over the last few days. you've seen scores of prominent republicans come out and say that they can't support donald trump, including the two living former republican presidents of the united states saying that they'll remain neutral in this conte contest. that is a remarkable and breathtaking thing. i think donald trump is talking about he's now going to turn his sights on hillary clinton and we're prepared for him to throw the kitchen sink at her, but i think before he turns to that project, he has a huge, huge task ahead of him in terms of uniting his own party, let alone the country. you know, the three tasks the next president will have to manage are improving our economy so the prosperity is shared, doing the role in of commander in chief to keep us safe on the home front and uniting the country. donald trump fails all three of those things. >> clinton in the very interesting interview with anderson yesterday, anderson asked about a tweet coming from senator elizabeth warren, and in the tweet it said trump built his campaign on racism, sexism, and xenophobia. listen to this. >> i think elizabeth warren is really smart. >> you agree with all those things. >> i think that anybody who has listened to him and how he's talked certainly can draw that conclusion. >> do you think he's a racist? >> i'm going to let people judge for themselves. >> why are we hanging out there? >> i think you have consistently heard her all out bigotry in all its forms. she has said from the very beginning when he launched his campaign and called next can -- mexican immigrants rapists at -- donald trump has talked about the idea he's now going to suddenly act presidential. i don't think there's a makeover -- >> he is who he is -- who he is, is he in your mind racist? >> he's made hateful comments about mexican-americans. he's discussed imposing a religious litmus test on those entering the united states. i don't think it will be lost on the american people what donald trump represents. >> does that equal race snis. >> the american people make that judgment in november. i think that donald trump has a lot of work to do if he's going to try to improve his standing with many of the key demographic that is will be voting this november compared to all the statements that he's made in the lastself months. >> brian fallon. >> great to see you. >> thank you so much. and thanks for playing our game. appreciate it. we'll have a new one next time. so he is one step closer, some would say a whole lot or standing right on it to the republican nomination and he's now searching for a running mate. he already has a short list and he's looking for something very specific in a vice president. find out what that is. that's next. now that donald trump has locked up the republican knowledge nati nomination, will the people behind the never trump movement move to his side, especially if he changes his tone? 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>> sure. >> next up on that list, nikki haley from the state of south carolina. >> helps trump with his quote, unquote woman problem, she's from the south. clearly for the republican nominee to win, going to have to sweep the south. >> and also seen as deftly handling the confederate flag issue after the charleston shooting. third up on the list, senator rob portman from ohio. >> 18 electoral votes from the important state of ohio. also knows washington very, very well, has worked in the administration as a senator. knows the house of representatives. could be a great wing man for donald trump. >> i'm told, i don't know if it's true, that no republicans won the white house without winning the state of ohio. >> correct. >> i only heard that about 10,000 times. the only problem with these three candidates are what? they've said no. >> in the last 24 hours nonetheless. they have all said they're not interested in being donald trump's running mate. portman has to run for re-election. nikki haley and susana martinez have their own political aspirations and they may not want to hitch their wagon to the donald trump horse. >> who among these men, who do you think is the most likely? >> john kasich. you know, listen, john kasich brings you ohio, the 18 electoral votes. he's very much like portman. he understands washington. he could help legislate. >> stick around mark preston. kate, let's go back to you. >> let's discuss all of that. with us jackie kucinich, josh holmes, republican strategist and former chief of staff for senator mitch mcconnell. carl bernstein and mark preston, he just sat down. nice. teleported over here from the magic wall. it's like magic. jackie, first to you, what does donald trump need out of this pick do you think? >> he definitely needs someone who knows washington, who knows how to legislate, but i have to say on portman, it was like he was selected as tribute because he immediately was attacked by ted strickland from the get-go saying that of course donald trump wants him as his running mate, blah, blah, blah, he's with his agenda. there's a risk of even being named by donald trump for some of these republicans who are up for re-election. >> i love a "honger gam "hunger reference. >> historically speaking some picks have gone over better than others. some have not been very good. >> start with palin. >> john edwards was not good either. >> what was the one i threw out earlier? >> tom eagleton was a historically bad pick. >> i'm not going to give donald trump advice. i got off the phone with somebody a couple minutes ago who knows kasich very well, is in touch with him, who believes that kasich would take it, and that he's probably the best choice if trump could get him. the theory as this person says is, look, they haven't said terrible things about each other. kasich is in a point at his career where this would be good for him. it would set him up in line for the presidency in the long run. he's thinking about it obviously, and let me just see what else this person said. extends his career. trump and he treated each other well. so i think that it's certainly under consideration at both ends. >> kasich said the only person he would serve under a george washington which doesn't seem available. >> he's booked. but anyone who has followed this campaign and known the blood, sweat, and tears john kasich put in the race and how he wanted to run his race and what he said since he bowed out would say no way, jose, it's not a possibility. but you still think -- i bet you agree with carl. >> god, i don't want to disagree with carl, but i don't think that john kasich would take it. you know, if you saw the speech yesterday, and, of course, you're not saying he would absolutely take it. >> obviously this person has not been told, oh, i'll take it. so let's be careful. this person is the one who has been in regular touch with him, knows his thinking generally, and he's not saying no and he's thinking about it. >> a couple things about john kasich. extremely conservative. so he would help donald trump there. john can i sikasich is very hark with in many ways because he's really his own man and he will tell you that over and over again. >> and pops off. >> and he can be very prickly, and if you listen to his speech when he got out of the race, it doesn't seem to fit into the donald trump persona. >> right. >> so, josh, donald trump this morning in an interview with cnbc said there's a 40% chance he will pick someone who ran against him. i do not think all 16 candidates have an equal shot. we just covered kasich right there. how much above 0% chance is there that the pick would be someone other than ben carson or chris christie if it's not john kasich among the people he ran against? >> look, i think the thing we're glazing over here is the fact that this pick, a vp pick, is a traditionally something nobody says no to. this is always the ticket to ride that every ambitious politician who has ever served in any capacity always says yes to. the question this year is whether it's a ticket to ride on the titanic or not for these guys. a lot of them have concluded it might very well be. their initial sort of roll out of who is on the short list is sort of mystifying to me. senator portman has been on a short list of everybody for the last three cycles so that's not surprising. >> at least. >> but why would he do that now and roll it out with susana martinez and nikki haley who clearly have never really supported donald trump. so i'm not sure what exactly they're thinking, but it's going to take more than just sort of floating names to get somebody to seriously consider it. >> rob portman, always a bridesmaid, always a bridesmaid. >> beyond the question of who it's going to be, we are at a moment of where people may or may not show some real moral courage, and this is a campaign that began on a neofascist appeal of nativism, of bigotry, of all kinds of misogyny, and that's going to get played back against trump throughout this campaign, and who among the great republican leaders wants to be associated with that? or do they think that trump can evolve and get past all that? not just lectelectorally, but i terms of how he's identified and his political persona, and so the big question among other things, not just the vice presidency, but this is a pivotal moment for the future of the republican party. who do these leaders want their party to be in the future? >> jackie, do you think that means someone could say no if offered? carl says no one says no. josh says no one says no. >> no, i say some people say no. >> it wasn't offered but there's already nikki haley, rick scott, rob portman have already taken a pass even at being considered for this. even through the vetting process, yeah, i think it's absolutely -- you have to open yourself up to a vet so i guess that would be interest, but maybe you could have someone for the first time say no. this has been an election full of sfrurprises and it will be surprising. >> tim paw lelenty doesn't beli it. no means no today. phone calls between donald trump and marco rubio. is senator rubio in the process of making up with the front-runner and could trump be looking at rubio, yes, as a possible running mate? 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we had 17 people, all smart, one by one, week after week, boom, boom, boom, gone, gone, gone, i don't maybe want to change so much. >> donald trump says he is not changing as he heads into the general election. so the question is i guess for his party, do they believe him? and if true, will members of the never trump movement be the ones changing. >> what about the members of the vote for me, not trump, for instance marco rubio. joining us alex conan in his first at this hour interview since rubio left the race. thanks alex for coming in. >> thanks. >> i couldn't help reading in the "new york times" that donald trump and marco rubio have had multiple phone conversations since senator rubio ended his bid. this is according to people close to trump. is that true? >> i no longer speak for mine. my last day working for him was the day of the florida primary when he dropped out. i know this week marco is in the middle east. he is very focus on being a senator right now. he is in iraq and turkey doing serious work on the foreign relations committee and the senate intelligence committees on which he signatures. i'm not sure whether or not he has spoken with donald trump. all i can say is he is very focus on being a senator right now. >> do you think marco rubio would take that phone call? you know how the campaigns were run and you know marco rubio better than most. >> i know marco rubio talks phone calls when he receives them i can't speak to whether or not him and donald trump have spoken. if the report is true, i think it's good that trump is reaching out to republicans like marco rubio because he needs to unite the republican party. i don't believe donald trump can come close to winning if he is unable to unite the republican party. and that starts with reaching out to marco rubio. >> some of the things that marco rubio said about donald trump, unequalified, a con artist, said he wet his pants, talked about hand size. do you think it is possible that senator rubio could come around and end up supporting donald trump? >> again, i can't speak for marco rubio. >> but based on the marco rubio that you were in daily contact with up until march 15th? >> i think he wants to make sure hillary clinton is not elected president, absolutely. and i think he wants to make sure we keep the senate this fall. i expect you will see marco campaigning for pat toomey this fall, rob portman in ohio. i think that will be a priority in addition to finishing out his term in the senate. >> alex, after the long fought campaign and after some time off and away, now that you are back, have you decided who you are going to vote for? >> i'm staying neutral for now. we'll see how thing play out. i'm focused on consulting, doing communications work for various clients and i'm saying out of the 2516 campaign. one cycle was enough for me this year. i'm like lot of republicans, i'm legitimately torn about who i would vote for this fall. i'm not going to vote for hillary clinton, but donald trump hasn't earned my vote yet. >> he has not earned your vote yet. that is interesting. what doeset say to you for a guy who has work in the republican party for a long time is not convinced. >> i believe in limited government. i believe we need to have strong foreign policy that embraces internationalism, and donald trump so far has not demonstrated. that like many voters out there, i'm torn as to what to do this fall, who to vote for this fall. like many conservatives i'm torn about it. we'll see how things play out over the coming months. >> alex, nice to see you. thanks, guys. ahead, new details emerging about the music icon prince and his final moments. the musician may have been just hours away from the help he desperate leadly needed to save his life. these are new details coming in. and the behind the scenes effort to save his life. that's next. hmm. what do you th? 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