Hello, im kate bolduan. Im john berman. Well show you live pictures right now of capitol hill. Thats our studio. And there is live pictures of capitol hill. High drama this morning, the kind that only happens every few generations. Uncertainty in the race to be House Speaker, House Republicans meeting behind closed doors, voting in minutes on who they want to replace john boehner. Kevin mccarthy, the current House Majority leader, hes the odds onon favorite but Jason Chaffetz has been getting a lot of attention but the Freedom Caucus has they have thrown a wild card into the race for speaker. By throwing support behind congressman Daniel Webster of florida. So, who will win out . The question matters very much because were talking about a position in line to succeed the president. Chief Political Correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill, talking to a lot of members, especially some of the members who want that seat. Dana, where do things stand at this hour . Reporter were an hour away from votes beginning but this morning there was a meeting where the candidates for speaker got a chance to make their closing arguments to their caucus. Explain why they should be speaker, the three candidates you just mentioned. And i actually happened to speak with one of them, as you mentioned, Daniel Webster. He is a congressman from florida but also the former speaker of the florida house. And i asked him whether or not he would, if he doesnt end up winning in todays vote, back Kevin Mccarthy at the end of the month . Listen to what he said. Im going to answer that if i lose. How about that . Have you been thinking about it . No. Ive been thinking about winning only. And how do you feel in terms of the votes, where do you think you are right now . How many do you have . I have no idea. I havent asked for commitments. Ive made my own commitment to them. I would commitment to serving them by telling them the truth, by making them successful, by giving them the idea of putting principle over power and then also by saying that ill earn the right to be heard, not demand to be heard. Reporter and that really is the crux of what were hearing from the socalled Freedom Caucus. About 40 or so members who have been really trying to push the entire leadership, the entire Republican Caucus to move and to change the way it operates, to make it not so much bottomdown but sort of, you know, all the way around, get everybodys voices heard. Thats what theyve been pushing. Thats why they endorsed Daniel Webster. Now, what were going to see in about an hour is closed doors because this is going to be a secret ballot. The entire house, Republican Caucus, is going to vote. And all Kevin Mccarthy or somebody else needs is 125 votes to get the nomination. Thats effectively all it is. Its the nomination from the party because the actual vote for House Speaker isnt until the end of the month, october 29th. That is going to be the key. Of course, as you guys mentioned, the House Speaker is a constitutional role, which means it is something that has to be approved by a majority of the house. So, you have to get 218 votes, all members, to be speaker. So the key for Kevin Mccarthy is, assuming he does get the nomination today, is whether he gets that or whether it ends up being another round of votes. And i know you guys are both history buffs, john and kate, that hasnt happened, there hasnt been a second round in almost a century. 1923. Well see if that ends up happening. Intrigue. History being made. Well see if that happens again. Dana, thanks much. Well be following this closely. Waiting for that vote to happen coming up soon. Also new this morning, gop president ial candidate ben carson is facing more criticism this morning over comments he made about how to react when faced by a gunman. First, carson said that he would stand up to a shooter. He would rush and overwhelm the gunman to take him down. Then carson told a radio host he was once held at gunpoint himself. So, did he attack the gunman then . No. Listen. Guy comes in, puts the gun in my ribs and i just said, i believe that you want the guy behind the counter. He thought thats what you in a calm way. In a calm way. In a calm way, oh, okay. He said, oh, okay. You just redirected him. I redirected him. He redirected the gunman. Joining us now to talk about this is karen hunter, sirius xm radio host who had that conversation. It was interesting to hear and jarring for a lot of people to hear that, on the heels of what he was saying this week, he would, had he been in a room with a shooter, tried to rush the gunman. If were being fair, what he was saying is if youre in a crowded situation and a lot of people in the room. Law enforcement backs that up, right in the greatest thing to do is to rush the gunman if there are a lot of people. This was a oneonone situation. Its so easy to take i know it was radio for me, and i know the media is having a field day with it, but dr. Ben carson is a complex human being. He does not follow the rules that are set forward by people who are in his position. He just speaks from his heart and says whatever is there. So, it was interesting to hear. What was more disturbing than him saying that was that he directed the person to a person making like 8 an hour. Isnt that just dont you think shoot him. I was like, okay. You seem to that seemed to have stopped you a little bit. So, wait a minute. You didnt say, hey, dont do this. You dont want me, you want him . Its a guy making 8 an hour . It was bizarre. But we seen this. This is not the first, second, third, fourth or fifth time weve seen statements many of us scratch our heads and say, whats happening here . Youve had him on before. What do you make of it . What do you make of take us into those personal conversations. Those conversations youve had with dr. Ben carson. You say this is not the first time, not the second time hes made comments that people scratch their heads. He faces criticism. He has not backed down on any of these remarks. Because he believes what he says. Even when it seems inconsistent . Heres what we dont get, those of us in the media. Hes not playing by our rules. So, and i said to him yesterday its not what do you think . I feel like its not our rules were setting, though. These are rules if you look at as i was saying yesterday, i think the people who matter, their opinion on this situation, are the people who the people who are the victims. That was the other thing that was disturbing is that you somehow imply these people who didnt stand up are cowards or theyre to blame. I said that to him. Hes not looking at it from the same way most of us are. Whats jarring to me is that hes number two in the polls, despite not knowing how to answer these questions. I said to him, youre answering questions no ones asking you. You know, so, youre volunteering information. Youre stepping on land mines that are there but youre looking for them. Its almost as if you are purposely doing this. You know, his response is, this is what hes hes going to say what he feels, no matter what his advisers say, what we tell him to say, what we think he should say. This is what he feels and hes going to stick by it. You said complicated. Another word many words you could use. Inconsistent in this case. He would say, the first thing if were in a crowd, i say we should jump the shooter. This was a oneonone situation. So in that case you shoot the cashier . Shoot them to shoot somebody other than you. Listen, i dont speak fluent ben carson. I cannot. Im not gazoo. I cannot tell you whats in this mans mind. I can tell you we need to Pay Attention because its resonating with people. Good point. And hes number two in the polls. Absolutely. Do you speak Rupert Murdoch . I do, actually. Yeah, i speak a little crazy sometimes. I do want to ask you about that so all of our viewers are caught up. I know Rupert Murdoch, he put out a tweet saying ben and candy carson, terrific. What about a real black president who can properly address the racial divide and much else. Then this morning he apologized not meaning to offend. Offend who . All black people . What do you make about this real black comment . Were be dealing with this on sirius xm. Someone who has been the purveyor and sat in the seat of racial divide, for him to have the audacity to bring up the first black president that could tilely deal with the divide that he created in many ways with the way he covers racial issues in this country, i think, was despicable. Look, hes a white australian guy. He needs to he needs to take his medication, sit down somewhere, be quiet, he needs a nap. He needs a lot of thing ps. What he should never do is talk about Racial Division in this country. Is there anything thaels thats really black or not really black . There are some things that are black. Im not going to talk about them on cnn. Yall just have to figure that out. The whole race thing was not created by black people to begin with. Racism was not created by black people. So to talk about something i have to fix as a black person that you started, you created, is ridiculous. You talk about race much with ben carson . Yes, a lot. What do you think ben carson makes of this strange endorsement from Rupert Murdoch . Im sure he would appreciate the compliment to him and his wonderful, beautiful, smart wife. He doesnt dodge the race question. What he tries to do is rise above it and say, look, i made it out of detroit with a single mom who couldnt read and look where i am because i didnt focus on race. Pull yourself up by your boot strap. Theres a will the of people who feel that way. I think it misses the point of the inherent racism we have in this country. Until somebody decides to fix it, its not going to be Rupert Murdoch, well continue to have these issues. Karen hunter, you have to come back. Invite me back. We will. Thank you for joining us. Were asking, what does ben carson think about this . Does ben carson think hes more black than president obama . Well get an answer. He joins wolf blitzer today at 1 00 eastern time on wolf on cnn. 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Reporter the air force has just given us a statement. Let me read to to everybody. This is about Spencer Stone. The air force saying, quote, Spencer Stone, airman Spencer Stone, has been transported to a local hospital and is currently being treated for injuries. The incident is under investigation that he was involved with. Here is what we know. Spencer stone currently serves at Travis Air Force base in northern california. He was involved in some sort of incident. We do not know what in a bar. And suffered multiple stab wounds. According to a u. S. Official, a defense official, familiar with the case. He is in stable condition, we are told, at a hospital near Travis Air Force base where this happened in the region where he served. He is in stable condition, were told, by this official whos familiar with the current details at this hour. Suffered multiple stab wounds in this incident in the bar. We do not know the nature of the incident. Of course, airman stone along with his two friends, came to the worlds attention for attacking and taking down that gunman on that paris train several weeks ago. He was here at the pentagon along with his two friends getting honors and awards from defense secretary ash carter. They were awarded the legion of honor by the french government before they even left paris. So, these are three young men who came to the worlds attention in a very positive light. Hailed as heroes. One of them now, Spencer Stone, who had been stabbed by that gunman in his thumb during the incident on the train, now back in the hospital with multiple stab wounds from some sort of incident he was involved in in a bar near where he serves at travis hair force base. Barbara starr for us at the pentagon. Troubling news to have this happen so soon after what happened in the paris train where he was a hero. Thanks to barbara for that. This morning Hillary Clinton in a huge split with the white house on an issue that matters a lot to this white house. Just days before the first democratic debate right here on cnn, the former secretary of state now says shes opposes a trade deal she once called the Gold Standardsings of trade deals when she was secretary of state. Clinton explains her rejection of the deal saying shes not in favor of what shes learned about it. Her democratic rooifrls, whom shell soon face on the democratic stage, are pouncing on this. Martin omalley. Wow, thats a reversal. I was against the Transpacific Partnership months and months ago. Secretary clinton can justify her own reversal of opinion on this, but i can tell you that i didnt have one opinion eight months ago and switch that opinion on the eve of debates. Joining us to discuss, john king, amanda carpenter, cnn political commentator and former Communications Director for ted cruz and strategist donna brazile. I thought we would be alone for a little bit. I didnt know if you were going to bump up. Donna, you heard what Martin Omalley said. I think youre going to hear that wash, rinse and repeat come tuesdays debate. What are Hillary Clinton going to say about it . What are the risks of her looking like shes doing this in order not to anger progressives . I know what she might say to her opponents but i believe what she will tell the American People is that she had an opportunity to look at the final deal, which was just completed on monday. Congress has a lengthy review process. What she saw when the deal was completed is that it didnt contain currency manipulation. Shes worried about that. Shes worried japan and other nations might be how does she fight this Gold Standard of trade agreements . Shes also working for outsourcing. I dont speak for her campaign. I do believe shes have a very, very tough time explaining why it took so long, but i think if she came out on the right side of this conversation at the end of a long, deliberative period, shell be fine. Look, democratings, we dont have a lot of squabbles and disagreements. We have bold visions about how to improve the economy, how to deal with climate change, how to i hear you laughing. We have strong disagreements with donald trump and ben carson. Thats what democrats are going to talk about. Were not going to begin this round of infighting. You hope. John, guard the left flank. What about guard the white h