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president said or excuse it and using the same phrase to sidestep any question they are asked about why this guy won't commit to this basic principle of american democracy. >> what we want to make sure of is that we have a free and safe and fair election. >> the president will accept the results of a free and fair election. >> we believe he'll win on november 3rd and with a free and fair election. >> so yes or no you will accept the election results if they come down the day or the day after election day? >> president trump and i will accept the results of a free and fair election. >> is there a memo? did they -- i mean, clearly, it's a talking point. you know, did they have a conference call and agree on it? let's use free and fair election. before they started using free and fair election to gloss over what the president himself said, which is quite clear, the phrase free and fair election used to have actual meaning. our government traditionally uses that phrase to discuss what it wants to see from governments in places like iraq or russia. president trump himself has used it during a discussion of venezuela one year ago today in fact. it not meant to be a wink or a nod or empty rhetoric or something that vice president pence can nod his head as though he's given a lot of thought and really cares about it. it is just empty rhetoric. that's what it turned into. it's a phrase that's supposed to mean something. america is in a position to call for others to have free and fair elections because we pride ourselves on that happening here. but now, that phrase is basically a dodge trying to answer a dodge for answering a question for which they have no answer. and it comes down to that burden of proof and there is no evidence of wide spread fraud, voter fraud to point to. that's not stopping members of the administration from trying. certainly not stopping the president. but earlier this month attorney general william barr tryingied push that idea with wolf blitzer. >> elections that have been held with mail have found substantial fraud and co-horgs. he indicted someone in texas, 1700 ballots collected from people who could vote. he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to. okay? that kind of thing happens with mail in ballots and everyone knows that. >> this guy. keeping them honest, no, everyone doesn't know that. it's not true. don't take our word for it. take the word of, i don't know, the justice department. yeah. because after that interview, a justice department spokesperson acknowledged what attorney general barr said is not correct and blamed a memo with an inaccurate case. he's there parking at wolf, which in fact what he is saying is not true and his own department came forward afterward and said oh, yeah, you know what? we gave him a bad memo. barr attempted a different defense with wolf, listen. >> you've said you were worried that a foreign country could send thousands of fake ballots. thousands of fake ballots to people that might be impossible to detect. what are you basing that on? >> i'm basing that, as i've said, repeatedly, i'm basing that on logic. >> pardon? >> logic. >> but have you seen any evidence that a foreign country is trying to interfere -- >> no, i'm saying -- >> creating -- >> foreign influence. >> people are concerned about foreign influence. people are concerned about alien life forms coming down and voting, too. i'm sure some people are. what does that mean? people are concerned about? okay. i'm concerned about a lot of things. it doesn't mean, you know, i'm concerned about getting old. doesn't mean -- you know. who cares? people are concerned. it's not true. it actually matters. it's just not true. this time there is no actual evidence, just logic william barr is saying. that guy. i mean, apparently, william barr's logic doesn't apparently require actual evidence. it's just stuff william barr thinks. it's also clear that barr's opinion is not universally held throughout the justice department, the one he is on top of. here is the fbi director christopher wray yesterday. >> now we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election whether it's by mail or otherwise. >> the fbi found no evidence. i'll say it again. the same fbi that is part of the justice department allegedly run by bill barr has found no such evidence. this morning president trump's chief of staff, guess what he did? goes after christopher wray. of course, watch. >> your own fbi director said he seen no evidence of wide spread voter fraud by mail or otherwise. >> well, with all due respect to director wray, he has a hard time finding emails at his own fbi, let alone figuring out whether there is any kind of voter fraud. perhaps he needs to get involved on the ground and he would change his testimony on capitol hill. >> boom. whoa. that is just weak cheese. he's going to have to do better to avoid being thrown under the bus by president trump. that's what happens to chief of staff. president trump gets reelected, how long is that guy going to last? christopher wray was appointed by the president and unlike most of the president's hires, wray is a person of integrity with a long and storied career and he was testifying under oath, which is certainly more than we can say for the president or that guy, mark meadows. he isn't some partisan to discuss with a flip answer that you've had to think about and maybe had kayleigh mcenana handle it. how come the law and order folks are attacking the heads of the fbi and defending ideas like not committing to a peaceful transfer of power. is that law and order? it almost makes you think their definition of law and order might not jive with democratic values, might not be so much about law and order and not only are they attacking people, they themselves have appointed, they aren't even listening to their own statistics on absentee ballots. take a look at the first page of the heritage study on voter fraud posted to the white house website. you'll notice the symbol on the top left of the heritage foundation, conservative think tank. this is their evidence they point to and yet, when you go on the voter fraud database as we did and count up what is listed under the category of quote fraudulent use of absentee ballots, which we did, it's about 192 cases since the year 2000. total. about 192 cases total in the last 20 years in which hundreds of millions of votes have been cast. out of or tens of millions of votes. i don't have the exact number. let's say tens of millions of votes over the last 20 years or let's pay attention to a top relub cr republican election lawyer. the person these guys would normally go to and hire when they want to contest an election and guess what ginsburg said? he said the same thing in an opinion piece in the washington post. republicans try to make their cases in courts must deal with the basic truth four decades of investigation produced on isolated incidents of election fraud. and ginsburg counts himself as a man who looked for that evidence for years, but it just doesn't exist. which brings us back to the burden of proof and what exactly in the president's mind constitutes a free election. struggle as they might to find an answer, the president himself gave up the whole game just last month. which free and fair? it's easy. if he wins. >> the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged. remember that. that's the only way we're going to lose. >> so that's a free and fair election for this president, an election he wins. here with their perspective is rick, a cnn election law analyst, author of "election meltdown" and also with us is a department of justice veteran and both republican, democratic administrations and former assistant u.s. attorney. even though this incident the department of justice we're pointing to to make a big deal about turned out to be basically nothing is how the doj handled it in any way appropriate or how or similar to how they normally handle investigations? >> absolutely not. it couldn't be more disturbing, anderson. what happened today is the latest example how the president of the united states is trying to turn the justice department into his personal petting zoo and the attorney general is acting as his baiter. it's grossly policy for prosecutors to make public statements about pending investigations. the comment on the evidence in those investigations particularly in a way that's favorable to a candidate for elective office, ie here the president of the united states and to do so in such close proximity to an election, those run directly counter to bedrock principle and policy of the department of justice. the justice department needs to act as a bull work against the types of abuses you detailed in your opening and instead, it is acting as a hand maiden to them. >> and rick, i mean, what does it tell you that president trump and allies started pointing to this in pennsylvania with an assist from the justice department as evidence that voter fraud is real and by extension the legitimacy of the entire election is at risk? >> we're just at the beginning of this. we're taking minor administrative errors, this turns out to have been a contract employee who was a third day on the job made a screwup and the president tipped off by barr before the public knew about this investigation claiming it shows wide spread voter fraud. i think we'll hear this constantly. the idea will be that the election is rigged and we're going to keep hearing this unless trump actually wins the election. it might be a basis for trump to say he didn't really lose the election or have a post election litigation to snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat. >> david, what is so ridiculous about them pointing to this incident is the mistake made with seven ballots and the way they went about it, if that's the best evidence they can point to, i mean, it again, argues against their very case. i mean, they had reams of evidence of wide spread organized voter fraud, they would certainly use it. they formed a commission on it because president trump has been claiming voter fraud for years and they don't find it because it's not there. as someone that works at the department of justice for democratic and republic administrations, is what we're seeing from barr and his relationship with the president and rule of law and mail in voting, i mean, does it square with your understanding of how things are supposed to work? >> no, it's directly counter to them and every administration, there is a memo that the attorney general abides by that sets out the terms in which the white house and the department of justice can communicate on pending criminal investigations, what happened yesterday is directly counter to that. this wasn't just a question of coordination between the white house and the department of justice. i dare say this is out right collusion between the white house and the department of justice. and the rollout, the public rollout of comments about a pending investigation expressly intended to benefit the president poll litically. >> rick, we had tom- freeman on the program last night that is legitimately worried about the president encouraging violence if he doesn't get his way on the election. are you worried about what's going on? are you worried about american democracy? >> i know that last night on the program, he said it was a six-alarm fire. i had a piece calling it a five-alarm fire. we might have a slight difference. here is what i think. we face a small risk of a kas s to -- catastrophe. will remake it through where one candidate has enough of a margin, it won't be plausible to contest the election. if the election is close and it comes to looking at ballots in pennsylvania and whether or not there were minor problems how the ballots were counted, i think we could be in for something worse than the 2000 bush versus gore because we're more polarized and have rhetoric from the president and we have social media that the president and others are using to spread misinformation and disinformation. lots of people believe no matter what the results actually are that the election is being stolen. it really kind of toxic brew that we're facing as a country right now and only a large margin will save us from maybe not civil war but really difficult period in american history. >> david, the president has this thing about back in prior administrations that people around the world were laughing at us, laughing at america, laughing at the government. i don't know if -- i mean, i know some places people are laughing. there is also places where a lot of people are shaking their heads out of pity for us, but among our adversaries, they got to be loving this. a sitting president is demeaning all the hinchmen around him who are mouthpieces for him and sullying themselves in the process. i mean, it's basically a gift to those who would wish the united states exactly this kind of division. >> anderson, if we can have access to vladimir putin's secret private wish list, the havoc he's seeing in the united states, some of which he has contributed to and the president of the united states who appears compromised in some manner by his activities in russia could not be more ecstatic about what he's seeing. this is what the russians hope for not just domestically within the united states but disorder in the international alliances, the president's efforts to discredit nato. all these things are key objectives of the russian government and other adversaries. >> yeah, richard and david, thank you. appreciate it. important discussion. >> just ahead, more on the president's push for a second term where polling suggestions it's a close race and as the u.s. passes 7 million cases of coronavirus,breaking news on the vaccine for an early result from a clinical trial when we continue. business right now is anything 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the more controversial parts of the record. >> the people that understand the border better than anybody are the hishispanics. i've had more support because they don't want bad people coming into the country. they don't want people coming into the country that will take their jobs and they understand it better. i thought it would be the opposite in a way. >> just to show how tightly contested the florida race is and an initiative by michael bloomberg to help those with felony convictions in the state is attracting negative attention from republican officials in the state. more on that contest from 360s randi kaye. >> reporter: in a statement where razor thin election margins are a regular occurrence, every florida vote counts. billionaire michael bloomberg pouring big money into the sunshine state to help former vice president joe biden win. his latest move, more than $16 million raised to pay off debts owed by ex felons. in 2018, florida voters approved an amendment restoring voting rights to more than 1 million people with felony convictions. republicans in the state then passed legislation blocking felons from voting unless they paid all fines and court fees. a few years ago, rosemary was convicted of illegally occupying a property. she hopes bloomberg can help. >> i applaud him and thank him and pray other people join in. >> reporter: the money bloomberg raised will go toward helping more than 30,000 black and latino former felons in florida cast their ballot. sustain >> florida is the purple state with a huge 29 electoral college votes. >> reporter: winning is expensive. bloomberg is funneling $100 million of his own money into the state and in addition to the $16 million to pay off the debts of felons, his money is also backing a tv ad blitz targeting among other things president trump's response to the pandemic. bloomberg's cash will infuse the ground game and get out the vote efforts by black and latino groups. >> it's like putting together a giant jigsaw puzzle with all different kinds of shapes of pieces and yet, you have a limited amount of time to do it if you want to win. >> reporter: no republican has won the white house without carlyicar carly -- carrying florida since 1944. he's claiming residency in palm beach and during a recent visit to the state, the president announced a ten-year expansion of the ban of oil drilling off the coast after officials voiced the concern how drilling might affect tourism here. all an effort to sure up votes. >> this protects your beautiful gulf and your beautiful ocean. >> reporter: both campaigns are making a play for port toe riue voters. tens of thousands fled puerto rico when the hurricane hit and vet l settled in florida. what did you make of president trump's response to the hurricane hitting puerto rico? >> well, not sufficient putting it lightly. inadequate. >> reporter: perhaps attitudes like that inspire the trump administration to suddenly announce $13 billion in aid to help rebuild puerto rico. three years after the storm. for his part, biden is also promising to rebuild the island's infrastructure. he recently visited florida, as well to mark hispanic heritage month. >> it's great to be back in florida. >> reporter: the campaigns are also flooding the air waves committed to spending upwards of $70 million each in tv ads without side groups like super pacs throwing another $0 mill 5n or so in the mix. the lincoln project released this ad about the coronavirus pandemic. >> more than 175,000 americans have died from a deadly virus donald trump ignored. >> reporter: america first policies of protrump group is airing this one warning voters that biden wants to raise taxes. >> joe biden will raise taxes. >> it is the most challenging state to figure out how to win all states by far. >> reporter: in response to michael bloomberg looking to help pay the fines and fees for tens of thousands of former felons in the state of florida, the attorney general asked the fbi and florida department of law enforcement to investigate that siting possible violations of election law. >> thanks very much. joining us is senior political reporter nia mallika henderson and jeffrey toobin. jeff, the president is saying today that we may end up in a dispute for a long time after election night. you've written about this extensively. how problematic could that be in a state like florida and frankly, other states, as well. >> well, florida is actually one of the exceptions to the rule and one reason why michael bloomberg is putting so much money into florida is that they actually couldn't their votes somewhat quickly and bloomberg's people feel like if they can get a win for joe biden in florida, that will simply end the election on election night because there is just no way of the president can get to 270 electoral votes without florida. however, if florida is not decide decided there are so many possibilities of litigation about vote counting, there are 200 lawsuits now, going on now about how the votes will be counted. the rules are very much in flux which means if there are close elections, there is the possibility firefighter litigation afterwards. there is also the possibility that state legislatures, state legislatures can try to circumvent the entire election and award a state's electoral votes to their candidate of choice. that's the republican legislature in north carolina, wisconsin. it hasn't happened in the modern era but in the courts' decision in bush v gore they suggested it was possible that could be nuclear war like we've never seen. >> jeff, there is already 200 lawsuits? >> there are 200 lawsuits. the democrats and republicans have websites that chronicle them all there are multiple lawsuits in many states. pennsylvania in particular probably has a dozen in and of itself. i mean, the thing that is so disturbing about that situation is that the vote counters, the board of elections people, they don't know what rules they will be applying. a lot of the lawsuits relate to the question of should absentee ballots be counted if they are postmarked before election day but received after election day. the democrats, it varies by states and up in the air. >> president trump won by one in florida in 2016. both parties pouring huge amounts of money. is it clear what the biden and harris campaign see as their best chances there? >> they are looking at the same demographi demographics. if you look what trump did in 2016, he did well among human american voter there is and he won that group and is trying to put puerto rican voters down there, a third of latinos are puerto rican in some movements as randi kaye talked about in the wake of the hurricane, you saw president trump courting that base of voter seniors important in florida. you see biden going on the air talking about the trump administration possibly wanting to bankrupt social security. that is the language that somebody like biden and his allies are using and then you have this giant unknown factor, not only the sort of voting but bloomberg putting $100 million into that state. if you think about the amount of money in terms of ads that went into florida in 2016, it was 133 malcoillion combined. you have bloomberg really surgically trying to figure out how he blocks trump from winning the state. it's personal for bloomberg. right? it new york billionaire versus quazi wanting to flood the airways in the way we saw him do in the primary where he failed but also going after these felons. he's on a tight, tight deadline when it comes to the felons. they have to give those folks to pay fines and register to vote by october 5th. so they are on a tight deadline to do that but i do think we know it going to be close. i think if you're donald trump, you'll be glad there is a republican legislature and republican governor down there, ron desantis who is incredibly loyal to this president and now of course, the attorney general going to bat for this administration in terms of those voting rights and paying those fines for those felons. so in someways, we look at donald trump as being behind in a lot of these states. the polls certainly show that but we don't know what is going to happen and we don't know what length donald trump and republicans are willing to go to to win this election in terms of lawsuits and terms of all sorts of unchartered territory. things we might not even have thought about and seen in american electoral history so far so in that way, he has something of an edge because we know that this administration and this president is willing to go to almost any length to win. >> yeah, talk about not accepting a peaceful transfer of power, can't go to a greater length than that. nia mallika henderson, jeff toobin, thank you. as the number of coronavirus cases in the u.s. tops 7 million, there is some possible good news on the vaccine front when we continue. we're all finding ways to keep moving. and at fidelity, 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>> well, i think it looks promising as you point out it's very early data. i mean, in those phase one, phase two trials you only have about 800 patients or so, 400 under the age of 55, 400 over the age of 65. we have to see if the encouraging results from those early trials actually start to pan out in phase three trials. it will be very large. 60,000 people will be in this phase three trial. this will be bigger than the other phase three trials that we heard about. there is a lot of excitement about this and i talked to the sort of head vaccine manufacturer in amsterdam a few weeks ago. possibly just a single shot with this vaccine as opposed to two shots. doesn't need to be frozen. just needs to be refrigerated. so that could make distribution a lot easier. and the type of technology they're using, this what's called an adno virus technology is a known technology. they have used it for other vaccines like zika for example, ebola. they're dealing with more of a known entity. those are promising, anderson. >> sanjay, are there any side effects we know of? >> again, the phase one, phase two, it's -- there were some side effects that were pretty mild they say, well tolerated. arm pain, muscle aches, things like that. what was interesting was that people over the age of 65 had fewer side effects than people under the age of 55. now, you know, having fewer side effects is obviously good but that might also suggest that people over the age of 65 weren't developing as strong an immune response. so that's going to be important. does this work as well for older people as it does for younger people? that's what the phase three trials are really going to try to figure out. >> congresswoman, how concerned are you about that vaccine process and the politicalization of it? >> i think we all should be concerned, particularly when the president of the united states suggests he might make the decision. that's scary. we really do want the scientists that the fda and their outside panels to make this decision. look, the american people are very nervous about all these politics, whether they should trust the vaccine process or even the covid management process. so what fda must do and let administration must do is to reassure people by transparency and by a rigorous scientific review process, only in that way will we will able to get the number of people through the vaccine process. i saw that the governor of new york said he's going to have hiss ohis own process. that clearly would undermine the sense that the great scientific agencies of the federal government really should be making these decisions. i don't have any big problem with the kind of review he might set up, but frankly, we've got to have faith in the fda and the cdc and the nih. we've invested over the years in world class scientists and i want the process to be one in which we all trust the vaccine. >> and yet, san jjay, we've see polls about people ee's willings to take the vaccine at this point and this as infection rates are going up in a number of states and projections are showing more hospitalizations and potential deaths. >> yeah, i mean, they say only about half the country right now says they would be willing to take this vaccine despite what they are seeing with the increasing numbers. i think congresswoman is right. i think part of the strategy right now has to be building that trust. i mean, we talk a lot about the safety and effectiveness of the explaining it. some of the distrust is deserved. the fda gave an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine with hardly any data and exaggerated data around convalescent plasma. i will say there are a lot of safeguards in place with the vaccine even more so than with therapeutics. you are giving this to healthy people. the bars for safety and all that have to be higher. there is an independent entity. i talked to members of the safety board today to understand this process and look, i'm not saying it's totally objective but there are a lot of guard rails in place. >> congresswoman, desantis said restaurants and bars can operate at 100% capacity and he expects florida to host a full super bowl. obviously, you know, does that make sense to you at this stage? >> it really doesn't but, you know, what he's really done is he's over ruled local government officials, particularly those in my area of south florida who have been more careful. he's made it easier for people not to wear masks for example. by saying there will be no penalties. he's over riding any local government rules about masks. and i just -- he's just not paying attention to the science. his advisors are not epidemiologists. they are not great public health experts. and so he's putting -- it's really he's putting the state and the people of the state at some risk by over ruling a lot of local governments that have really paid attention to the science and tried to be very careful here. >> sanjay, does it make sense to you to have bars and restaurants at 100% capacity? >> absolutely makes no sense. i mean, the numbers i realize in florida have been, you know, relatively level for sometime. we're going into a season now where the numbers are likely to go up to some extend everywhere because people are going to be increasingly inside and more closely clustered together. that's what happens. we've seen this with other outbreaks, as well. you know, the idea -- there is a few areas that are the worst. if you're inside restaurants or bars, you're not wearing masks because you're eating or drinking and we know that the virus can aerosolise and spread around. why not the masks? at least if you're going to start opening things up, the masks can help mitigate some spread. he's not even sort of enforcing that. >> yeah, congresswoman, appreciate you. sanjay, as always, thank you. we're looking at the streets of louisville tonight, a third night protesters in the streets for a lack of charges in breonna taylor's death. taylor's family wanting the chance skrir transcripts released. i'll speak to bremonna's family where they go from here. this is decision tech. find a stock based on your interests or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions. fidelity. diabetes and raised triglycerides,... ...vascepa can give you something to celebrate. ♪ vascepa, when added to your statin,... ...is clinically proven to provide 25% lower risk from heart attack and stroke. vascepa is clearly different. first and only fda approved. celebrate less risk. even for those with family history. ♪ don't take vascepa if you are... ...or become allergic to icosapent ethyl or any inactive ingredient in vascepa. serious side effects may occur like heart rhythm problems and bleeding. heart rhythm problems may occur in more people... ...with persistent cardiovascular risk or who have had them in the past. tell your doctor if you experience an irregular heartbeat or other heart rhythm problems. possible side effects include muscle and joint pain. celebrate less risk. added cardio protection. talk to your doctor about adding protection with vascepa. a third night of protests in louisville when the district attorney brought no charges against the officers. breon breonna's family joins them. joining me is an attorney for bee bee on that taylor's family that left the protest. what is the family's message to protesters tonight. >> the family's message is one, be safe. everyone make it home tonight but also, they truly appreciate the support. that's why they were out there for part of tonight for half of the march. they had another commitment. but they want to show their support to the protesters just as the protesters have been supporting them for over 100 days. >> bee her mom wrote a letter i have no faith in the law meant to protect us black and brown people. how is she doing now and where do you see this going from here? >> yeah, so the support of so many is helpful, but wednesday it was -- it really was a wound being opened back up for her to hear that daniel cameron had elected not to charge the other officers or any of the officers directly with any injuries or death to breonna. the charges brought from the grand jury for wanton endangerment for the neighbors of breonna. that was heartbreaking for ms. palmer and for the rest of the family. what we hope from here and, you know, what i said in our press conference earlier today is we want daniel cameron to be straightforward. he dodged the questions at the press conference. did he present charges on behalf of breonna taylor to the grand jury or did his office make the charges not to charge the officers with anything related to bee reonna taylor. if it doesn't go before a grand jury, we would demand a special prosecutor be' poi appointed in case and a case presented to the grand jury. >> in terms of releasing grand jury transcripts, it's rarely done. who makes that decision? who is it up to? >> the prosecutor can make that determination. we've seen it done as accidently as kenneth walker. they released his entire recording of his grand jury presentation. in kentucky typically, grand jury recordings are turned over to the defendant as a part of criminal discovery. criminal discovery is part of an open criminal case file, which would be available to the public to the press. so it definitely can be made and it typically is if kentucky by way of that criminal case file. >> i spoke to your co-counsel ben crump last night. he said there is evidence of a clear coverup. i talked to the attorney for kenneth walker and also thinks it's a coverup. what exactly assuming you think the same, what exactly do you think the attorney general is covering up? >> i think that there's a lot of covering up. the way this case was investigated. their lack of interviewing any witnesses prior to this case becoming a media story. so the way that they interviewed sergeant mattingly, bullets going into other apartments. there is so much not known. the police report that said there was no forced entry, that breonna had no injuries. the search warrant that we now know and learned subsequently that contain lies. so it's so much that, you know, the fbi is doing an independent investigation, as well. we hope there is federal civil rights violation charges brought, as well. again, we're not giving up on state level manslaughter or murder charges in the case of breonna taylor. they are warranted here and sufficient we think they're warranted here, there's sufficient probable cause. >> we'll obviously continue to watch tonight and in the days and weeks ahead. appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you. up next, a tribute for justice ruth bader ginsburg as dignitaries, family and friends gather to say good-bye. breaking news, president trump has made his choice to replace ruth bader ginsburg. he plans to chose amy coney barrett, according to multiple sources. until it's announced by the president, he could make a change. she's a former law clerk for the late justice antonin scalia. the president is scheduled to announce his pick on saturday afternoon. ♪ meanwhile, ruth bader ginsburg became a trailblazer one last time. there was a touching tribute, brian johnson for more than 20 years, did three push-ups before her casket. a fitting way to pay his respects. she often did planks, squats and push-ups. it has been a week of mourning in washington across the country. with all the news making headlines tonight. i want to take a moment to reflect on a good thing happening. we show you how an architect is helping to rebuild homes and lives in puerto rico. >> he changed everything for everyone here in puerto rico. there were 70,000 homes destroyed, some had no roof, some only had a toilet left standing. we don't have to live this way. >> my mission is to build homes that are earthquake proof and hurricane proof. we're using shipping containers add a base structure. i'm a third generation architect. my father and grandfather taught me that being a part of a community and helping out that community is really important. some days after hurricane maria, i joined fema to work as a construction inspector. i remember this one case, this one lady came to us, we couldn't find the house. we wreelized we couldn't find the house because there was nothing left. the desperation in that woman's face, i'm just never going to forget it. the name of my company is called konti, it combines into many phrases in spanish. you can take your home with you. >> these actually look really good. >> and then we go inside. >> there's no holes on the roof, there's no holes on the walls. it's a really beautiful container. >> our first konti home was built on an island off the coast of the puerto rico. >> hello. >> when i come visit mildred and her husband who are the owners of this house. it makes me feel so happy to see that this couple was able to get their dream because it was more cost effective and faster. it's probably one of my proudest moments. >> i opened those doors and i'm in paradise. >> it was our dream to have something that is ours, and we achieve it. at first we didn't have a lot of faith, but she fought for us to build. >> she lives with her hair standing on end waiting to see if we'll get hit with another hurricane, this is the best opti option. ♪ >> almost three years after hurricane maria, the island is experiencing a string of earthquakes. this has left some homes and businesses uninhabitable. the nonprofit is using one of our homes as a health command center. in order to be able to distribute supplies and aid to the people who have been affected by the earthquakes. communities have gathered together and built camps where they're sleeping in tents in open spaces. >> can i take you to the back? i lost everything. it's okay, i'm going to get up again. >> the median income in puerto rico is about $20,000. when the average home costs about $100,000. the math doesn't add up. our model goes for half the price of the average home in puerto rico. we can make our homes completely off grid. the ultimate goal is to produce 100 units a month. we can use it for disaster relief, for refugee camps. wen want to produce them here in puerto rico and ship them all around the world. >> making a difference. we'll continue to share these inspirational stories tonight and tomorrow. don't miss the champions for change one hour special tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. we'll be back for a special 360 sunday night. the news continues right now, let's hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. >> have a good and short weekend, my brother. good to see you. i'm chris cuomo, welcome to prime time, today is day three, of this president's active attempt to sabotage this election. this is now his stump selling point. >> no, i don't know, you know, with this ballot situation, it's -- you're not going to see it. november 3rd, democrats are playing games, you see that. you see they found ballots in a waste paper basket, dumped in a stream. with me we may end up in a dispute for a long time, that's the way they want it. we're going to end up winning, that's for sure. >> the truth is, he's trying to poise ing as many minds as he can, so that if the polls turn out to be right and he does lose, he can cause more chaos. now, i know his words are often a waste of time, but color me reaction airy, i think they belie real efforts by him, his cronies in our government and his campaig

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