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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 August 17, 2020

And good evening, looking ahead to the Democratic National convention that begins tomorrow. Unlike any democrats have seen. Nominated candidates in world wars, civil war, great depression, good times and bad and now. This time will look and sound different. As biden and harris accept the nomination, so will the Republican Convention a week from tomorrow. We cross another grim milestone, more than 170,000 lives lost in this country, nearly triple the death toll in vietnam. And the coronavirus is affecting way people will vote. More than ever will vote by mail or try so. All week saw pictures of the Postal Service being uprooted or changed. So is the wild card of president that says the outcome my be rigged, that mailin voting is too open to fraud, which is it is not, there is no evidence of that. Economy, incredibly polarized nature of the electorate, its high stakes election, unlike any weve seen before. First guest in this hour knows more than most about the importance of every single vote. Nor has the importance diminished, the technology he was championing when he accepted the democratic nomination 20 years ago. A time when there is more computer power in a palm pilot than the spaceship that took Neil Armstrong to the moon, well offer all people Lifelong Learning and new skills for higher paying jobs of the future. Al gore. I hadnt thought about a palm pilot for quite a while. Took me back. Mr. Vice president , thanks for joining us. On the eve of the Democratic National convention, im unclear what this is going to look like, how its going to work. What message do you think Vice President biden needs to deliver to people this week . That hes going to make the country better, get us out of this incredible morass that the president has put the country in. Economy greatest downturn since the great depression, 170,000 americans have died, many of whom would have lived but for the incompetence and gross mismanagement of the pandemic. Weve seen a whole series of measures taken by tpresident this latest by the way with the Postal Service i think will also be an issue before i go forward i want to pause and offer condolences to the president and his family on loss of his brother. I lost a Family Member in Heated Campaign and all americans feel sympathy for him. But the way he has mismanaged our country is historic. And i think that joe biden and Kamala Harris are conveying an image of confidence and stability and bring back the american spirit, i think its really wonderful. And on the Postal Service, if i could say what i wanted to say about that, think hes kind of panicked that the announcement of Kamala Harris went off it was 10 out of 10. It was amazing. And he went to that stupid, r ridiculous false birther thing right away and had to take it back. And post office, this is an act of desperation, in pandemic, voters of all ages with preexisting conditions worried they cant breathe safely standing in line to work. In effect by tampering with the post office hes putting his knee on the neck of american democracy and trying to make it impossible for people to vote by mail. And they may react the way they did in wisconsin when the governor there tried to do a similar thing and it made people mad. I think this democratic ticket is going to be showcased this week in a spectacular way. Nancy pelosi is asking the house to come back early in order to try to address the concerns over the Postal Service. What do you think can be done . Well, of course the president has stiffed the congress on subpoenas, he has refused to let people testify. I suspect that hes gone too far on this even for him because the republican members of the house and senate are really hearing from outraged voters, veterans not getting their medicine, people not getting their paychecks, people expecting things in the mail and not receiving them. This is really an outrageous assault on an American Institution that goes back to the very beginning of our country. What happens though, if the Postal Service sent out letters to states saying essentially may not be able to people using mailin votes, may not get them in time and theyll be disqualified. What happens if millions of votes are disqualified because the system couldnt handle the number of ballots . We cannot allow that to happen. See them going around with flatbed trucks and picking up mailboxes outside of Senior Citizens centers and schools and libraries where people are used to dropping off their mail. We cannot allow this to happen. If republicans in the house and Senate Continue to be so frightened of a tweet from donald trump that they just turn backflips whenever he asks them to, even if it means destroying United States Postal Service during an election when people need it more than ever because of the pandemic, i think there will be a verdict rendered at the polls that is truly historic. It is way more than partisanship, this is what our country is made of, cant allow this behavior. President said out loud this week if Postal Service doesnt receive the money the democrats want for the agency it wont be able to handle influx of mailin ballots. He walked that back later, saying using it as bargaining chip. I wonder how you heard that complement from the president. First you quoted from him was said on fox news in a kind of a knowing way so that he could alert his partisans this is part of the scheme to fix the election. To prevent people from voting by mail. All of the research, anderson, its important to say this, theres never been any evidence that voting by mail favors democrats or rooenz. Yeah. Its even steven, this may be different because hes grossly mismanaged the nations response but its not a partisan issue. And during pandemic people need the option to vote by mail. States that pioneered this have shown theres virtually no fraud whatsoever, no partisan effect as i said, he is simply trying to jury rig and fix the election in his favor. I dont think hes going to be able to do it. I think enough republicans will stand up and say this is a bridge too far, im not going to go with donald trump and jump off the cliff with him on this. I talked to secretary of state in washington state, in charge of mailin voting there. Shes a republican, said theyve had a long history of doing it there, great results, high turnout, top in the state in the country, and out of the millions of votes cast, i think they had about 100 or so questionable ones, some people double voting and couple signing someone elses name and being adjudicated and punished. Out of the millions of votes cast its statistically insignificant and doesnt Favor One Party over the other. 000 something percent, and you have paper trail to find out if anybody tried to cheat somehow. You cant do it with the mailin voting. When you ran for president in 2000 election, took 36 days until the Supreme Court declared george w. Bush the winner. You gave a speech accepting defeat for strength of democracy, offer concession. When you think about words 20 years ago, what it felt to deliver them, what you make of President Trump saying hell refuse to accept the results of the election. Well, hes a different breed of cat from anyone who has ever served in the oval office, including even richard nixon. He does not seem to me to share the basic bedrock believes in the values the United States of america is based on. You know, the bedrock principle, even before the constitution, was from john locke, all just power is derived from the consent of the governed. The way the governed give consent is through voting. And way we make the best choices as a nation is through the collective wisdom of the American People when everybodys perspective is combined together. Over more than 200 years we used to make better decisions than any other nation. But when they start tinkering with the voting process and try to take away from the American People their right to give their consent in an honest and open way, that is a direct assault on the idea of the United States of america. And i think its a criminal conspiracy to subvert the election for partisan purposes. Whether theres anybody that has enough standing to bring that emergency injunction in court, youll have to go to someone who knows the law on that, but i know that the congress can take action immediately, next week, and thanks to nancy pelosi for calling the house back in, if enough republicans listen to their constituents who i know im hearing from a lot of republicans who are outraged by this. If they listen to them, theyre not going to go along with President Trump on this. You really think it is a criminal conspiracy in. Well, i think im im not a lawyer, and i havent researched criminal law but theres no question in my mind that this big contributor for donald trump who was put in charge of the Postal Service just before the election, and then had a friday night massacre to get rid of a couple of dozen top people in order to put more henchmen in there, and then they start taking the mailboxes away and disassembling the sorting machines and come up with excuses and tiptoeing around it to dance as fast as they can, but people see through t they know this is exactly the kind of stunt that donald j. Trump would try to pull when hes feeling desperate. Hes afraid that the majority of the American People have made up their minds hes not fit to be the president of the United States, hes afraid theres going to be a vote against him, so hes trying to subvert the vote. Thats what i think, and ive seen no evidence to disprove that way of explaining it. If trump were to lose, a big if, i dont i would never normally ask this question, do you think he will leave the office willingly . Oh, yeah, its not up to him. When he loses, if he lose the election, its not up to him whether he leaves or not. At noon on january 20th his term is over and the news president s term begins. So its no the as if people are well will he accept this verdict, yeah, he will, because the constitution says so. And all of the white house police, white house secret service, military, whoever you want to talk about, they will then be responsible to answering the commands of the new president of the United States, it will not be up to donald trump if he loses the election. But lets not get ahead of ourselves. Im among those who feel like i know that the American People at this point are really eager for a change to get back to sanity in the american way, but theres a lot of time between now and the election, and i just want to encourage everybody in both parties, independents, whatever, vote. Pray over it, think hard about the kind of country that we want. Look at whats happened under donald trump. We have the worst handling of the pandemic of any advanced country in the entire world. Our economy has gone down, down, down. We have seen racial tensions intentionally inflamed by this guy. He flatters and compliments the worst racists in our society. People carrying Klu Klux Klan garb and swastikas and saying jews will not replace us and he calls them very fine people even after 1 has murdered a peaceful protester by driving through the crowd. People have watched this, weve lived through it. We cant have another four years of this, damage to our country would be catastrophic. Its already bad enough weve got to have the Biden Harris Administration to start straightening this out and getting us back on the right track again. Do you want to see americans who can vote as early as possible . Yeah. I think well some states will start voting pretty soon, but all of this is covered by state law. Some states will start opening the polls very soon. But you know with the backlog that trump is engineering with the Postal Service, until its straightened out, earlier you can do it, the better. If he keeps on going, telling people to think about mailing ballots in middle of august for november election, what is going to happen in october when people think about sending christmas president s to children and grandchildren, going to have to mail them in october because trump will be accused of having his own war on christmas . Vice president gore, appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Thank you. 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Reporter they call each other brothers, family, former president barack obama and former Vice President joe biden have long publicly flaunted their friendship. Same time next week . Same time next week. Reporter now bidens former boss could play outsized role helping him take on donald trump in the fall. One of the most popular democrats in history, obama making several high Profile Campaign appearances on bidens behalf. Virtual fundraiser in june. Nobody i trust more to heal this country and get it back on track than my dear friend joe biden. Reporter raising a whopping 11 million in one night. And this video by the biden kparn campaign, the two men discussing everything from covid19 to President Trump. He ran by deliberately dividing people from the moment he came down that escalator, and i think people are now going i dont want my kid growing up that way. Reporter obama not often going after trump by name but making clear his successor is very much on his mind. Even as we sit here, there are those in power who are doing their darnedest to discourage people from voting. Reporter the obama trump feud dating back years. Trump infamously embracing birtherism, relentlessly casting doubt on obamas viability to be president. Why doesnt he show his birth certificate, if hes not born in this country, one of the greatest in history of politics. Reporter again with theories, Kamala Harris, newly made running mate, born in oakland, california. I just heard today that she doesnt meet the requirements. Reporter obamas advice on handling trump . You are not going to out controversy this president. Not going to get more attention. The circus that he runs is not something that joe should try to compete with. Reporter former president barack obama will be speaking on wednesday night, this is the third night of the Democratic National convention. Were told that the theme will be a more perfect union, where the Democratic Party tries to speak about the importance of moving the country past the donald trump era. That evening is also

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