okay. why don't you move your car into a parking spot. okay? all right. don't go back to sleep. just pull it over there. >> mr. brooks does. he pulls into a sparking spot, and one of the responding officers begins questioning him. >> do you have any weapons on you or anything like that? >> i don't have anything on me. >> well, having determined he is unarmed, they perform a series of sobriety tests and administer a breathalyzer, which comes back they say over the limit. at this point, the officer decided to handcuff him. mr. brooks resists. a scuffle breaks out. officers try to use a taser on him. the body cam video is incomplete because both officers' cameras somehow ended up on the ground. however, you'll hear profanity, apparently a taser used, and then the fatal shots. >> put your hands behind your back. >> hey. stop fighting. stop fighting. stop fighting! >> stop! you're going to get tased! stop! >> stop! >> hands off the taser! >> stop fighting! [ bleep ]. >> the sound of gunshots. two, hitting mr. brooks in his back and buttocks, according to the medical examiner. a police dash cam actually shows the scuffle. you can see the officer wrestling with mr. brooks. you see one of the officers pull out a taser and see the struggle over it. after which mr. brooks gets ahold of it and points it back at the officers to no apparent effect. it's at this point the officer pulls his taser and fires at brooks while he is running away. you see mr. brooks being pursued by one of the officers. turning back, with the taser at him, the actual shooting happens off camera but was captured on video from a restaurant surveillance camera at a drivethrough. from that angle, you can see, moving from left to right, mr. brooks being pursued by one of the officers. turning. apparently, pointing the taser back at him. and finally, the officer appearing to open fire. now, we should mention, right here, that police do not consider a taser a deadly weapon. at least, that's what they say when they use it, themselves. in addition, the officers had already determined mr. brooks had no firearms on him. as cnn law enforcement analyst and former philadelphia police chief charles ramsey put it, the officers had his car, they knew where he was, and where to find -- where to find him. rayshard brooks was 27 years old, in addition to his widow, he leaves behind three young daughters and a teenage stepson. the medical examiner has ruled his killing a homicide. today's -- today, atlanta's mayor called it murder. garrett ralfe, the officer who did the shooting has been fired. his partner's been put on adm administrative leave. atlanta's police chief stepped down. >> we saw the worst happen on friday night with mr. brooks. it angered me, and it saddened me, beyond words. but i know that it is my responsibility, as mayor of this great city, for us to continue to work to put the anger and that sadness into action. >> joining us now is paul howard jr., district attorney of fulton county, georgia. district attorney, thanks for being with us. you said a decision on possible charges against the officer who shot rayshard brooks would be made sometime around wednesday. can you just go through which charges may be under consideration? >> there are three major charges that we are considering. the first charge, being murder, which addresses an intent to kill. the second charge, felony murder, which occurs when death arises out of an underlying felony. and, in this case, the underlying felony would be a aggravated assault. and the third charge that we're considering is voluntary manslaughter, which is a death in a heat of passion. >> and i want to play something that mr. brooks's widow told cbs about the officers. let's play that. >> i want them to go to jail. i want them to deal with the same thing, as if it was my husband who killed someone else. if it was my husband who shot them, he would be in jail. he would be doing a life sentence. they need to be put away. i feel like, even though everything happened so fast, it didn't take nothing but a split second for the other officer to say, hey, calm down. he could've told his partner, calm down. so all of 'em need to be sentenced the same way. >> she's saying the second officer involved, who didn't fire his weapon, should be sentenced the same way. i'm wondering what you make of that. because right now, he's on administrative leave, i believe. or administrative duty. >> well, i -- i -- we are considering both of the officers. we're not just considering one of the officers. and so, the charges that we are exploring are charges that could possibly be against both of the officers involved. i think one of the things that i hear mrs. miller addressing is what people from the community continue to say is, that is, they want one system of justice. and she's right. if this had been a civilian, it's a possibility the charges would have been launched against them, already. and i think what people around the country are saying is we want one system so that, both, the police and citizens are treated equally. and that's what we're hoping to do by making our decision on wednesday. >> and -- and do you have a sense of what the -- what should have happened, in this -- in their interaction from -- from the get go? i mean, is there standard procedure that you can point to that, say, wasn't followed? is there something that needs to -- what do you make of what you've actually seen in the video? >> well, i think that, when i saw it, knowing that mr. brooks would end up dead, when i saw it initially, my first thought was i expected to see someone who was resistant. someone who did not cooperate with the police. who was not very friendly. but that was exactly the opposite of what happened with mr. brooks. he was very compliant, very casual, very informal. and so, when you see it, it's kind of difficult to wrap your hands around why he ends up getting killed. so i -- i think that what it does, it creates this kind of classical example for police departments all around the country. when we're talking about deescalation, because there's really no reason for mr. brooks to end up dead because he fell asleep in the drivethrough or that he was intoxicated. what ever those incidents might have added up to, it certainly didn't merit the final outcome, in this case. >> certainly, if this goes to trial, and whatever the charges may be, the attorneys for officers will say, well, he -- he may have been compliant, early on, when the handcuffs were -- just from what we see in the video -- when the handcuffs were being put on. he resisted. and, according to them, grabbed a taser. >> yeah. i think the -- the -- the video and the evidence will show that he grabbed the taser. but the critical point that we are examining, and the critical point, i believe, in this case, is what happened at the exact moment of the shooting? because, at that time, under georgia law, unless mr. brooks posed a -- an imminent threat of bodily harm, as i sometimes say it, colloquially, just to say was the police officer -- was it necessary for him to shoot mr. brooks to save his life? or to save someone else's life? because if mr. brooks was shot for some other reason, then it is not justified. >> district attorney howard, i appreciate your time and thank you very much. we'll look to see what happens in the days ahead. thank you. joining us now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, laura coates. also, ron johnson, former captain of the missouri highway patrol and the author of "13 days in ferguson." laura, you just heard what district attorney said. keisha lance bottoms today called this murder. what do you see and what kind of charges do you think might be levied here? >> well, it's important, if you are ever considering charges, you ever to think about what the actual facts are. what the hurdles you may have in a jury or grand jury and what you actually have to overcome here. and unlike the cases we've seen, just recently of a breonna taylor or george floyd. whether it was justified to use it and it's all going to come down to this notion, was he in a kill or be killed scenario? that's what proportional use of force is about. did mr. brooks present a danger to the general community? or could lethal force have been used, as a last resort? and we're looking at the da statements when he says, look, was it for some other reason? was it to try to catch up to him? failure to be able to catch up to somebody running away from you is not going to be enough to actually use lethal force, knowing full well that a taser was all he had. and so, the real inquiry for this da is going to be about how use of force was used and whether -- he mentioned heat of passion. there was enough time that went by that he could have, as the georgia statutes say, some humanity or common sense and reason to enter his mind. that would suggest to you, did he have enough time to make a different choice? he knew who he was. he knew how to find him. it's going to be a decision for this da to make. >> captain johnson, i'm wondering what you make of -- of this interaction, given your experiences as -- as a -- as a police officer. as a -- as a -- as somebody who's been in this profession. what should -- what would appropriate force, in a case like this -- i mean, if somebody is resisting, if somebody has grabbed a taser, but the underlying reason they were called out is he was asleep in a line at wendy's. it's not as if he was, you know, robbing a bank and holding a hostage. so what do you do in a situation like this? or what went wrong here? >> well, i think as everybody said, he knew his identity. he knew he was unarmed. and even when he runs away, he shoots the taser, without him being familiar with that taser. the chances that he would be able to engage that taser are really slim. so he'd already shot the taser and missed you. so, in a sense, that danger had -- had done lapsed. you know, and so, he was running away. he didn't pose a threat to the officer. he didn't pose a threat, even if he had got away to the community. and so, that's one of those things where you knew where he lived because he told you how close he lived. and so, it's hard to see the threat in what we've seen, so far, in the news clips. >> in -- in a case like this -- i'm sorry, we had a -- i didn't mean to interrupt. we had a connection problem. >> if he caught up with him, he would have to struggle with him again. that would be your use of force that you would continue to use, if you caught up with him. >> laura, in terms of, you know, what the district attorney was saying was, you know, in the moment the shot was fired, is -- it doesn't, necessarily, go all the way -- you know, the consideration doesn't go all the way back to the underlying reason the police were called, in the first place. it's, in that moment, you know, was it to prevent something worse that might happen? you know, if he got away, something like that. is that -- is that -- i mean, what a jury would have to decide? or even what the da's office would have to decide? just like what happened in that second? or do they look at all the incidents leading up to it? >> a totality of circumstance is going to be considered. you know, you're talking about, not only the reason they were there but, also, about the entire interaction from, what, 10:40 p.m. to about 11:20 p.m. at night on friday. you had this whole arc of their interactions. remember, they know full well he's not armed. they don't feel in danger, for all that period of time. field sobriety. et cetera. his struggle was something that people did not necessarily predict. it shocked people to know that it happened. you hear the audio of people surprised this is actually happening. but the da is right to consider this, in a more narrow context because, in use of force, totally is important. but, also, it's about whether, at the time the officer engaged in lethal force, he was justified to do so. and that particular clock is going to realistically run from the da's mind, from the time the struggle ensued, until the time that he actually discharged his weapon. he will consider whether or not -- i think, in the video, i believe that the taser is -- i think it's yellow. about my shirt color, it practically is. so the idea that he would mistake it for some other weapon that did have lethal force is pretty absurd to think about if that's, in fact, the case. but the real clock will start about that calculus during that struggle. but it, also, has to consider here, anderson, the fact that you cannot shoot somebody, a fleeing suspect, simply because you cannot catch up to them. there are a whole host of things at an officer's disposal. backup. time. chase. the idea that this person was already inebriated in some form or fashion, which could be a disadvantage to his own escape. all that has to be taken into consideration, whether last resort really was lethal force. or was it a knee-jerk reaction? and really, if it's a knee-jerk reaction, that is going to be the main consideration of this da. >> laura coates, ron johnsen, appreciate it. coming up next, the president's new answer to the coronavirus pandemic. apparently, it's just stop testing even as a new forecast predicts more than 200,000 fatalities in this country. will join us after members of her s.w.a.t. team quit because of her kneeling. we'll be right back. with a truly long-term view that's been through multiple market cycles for over 85 years? with capital group, i can. talk to your financial professional or consultant for investment risks and information. ♪ ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. noticks and fleas?o simplifies protection. see ya! heartworm disease? no way! simparica trio is the first chewable that delivers all this 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not when it comes to the virus that has now claimed more than 116,000 lives in this country. today, as you'll hear, he expressed the notion that if you just stop testing for it, coronavirus wouldn't be a problem anymore, which sounds pretty simple. it means that, somehow, figures that show the number of cases rising in all those states, you see in light and dark red there on the map, they have nothing to do with people actually showing up sick at hospitals or put on ventilators or still dying in this country. no. instead, according to the president, just stop testing. then, the problem's solved because it goes away because no one knows about it so, therefore, it doesn't happen. here's what mr. trump said today. >> our testing is so far advanced, it's so much bigger and better than any other country, that we're going to have more cases. we're always going to have more cases. if you don't test, you don't have any cases. if we stopped testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any. >> you know, keeping him honest, that makes no sense. in the twisted logic of hiding facts, if that's your plan, yes, if you don't test anyone, you won't know how widespread the virus has spread and you won't be able to respond and prepare and save lives. but, there would still be just as many cases. you might hide it, which the president clearly would like to do. but people will still be sick. and some will die. texas, today, reported a record number of people hospitalized with covid-19. not merely testing positive but actually sick and sick enough to go to the hospital. according to forecasting from the cdc, as i mentioned, by july 1st, anywhere from 2,500 to 12,000 people will be hospitalized, with new cases of coronavirus, every single day. now, again, those are actual people getting truly ill, and they won't stop getting ill if testing stops. they won't stop dying. you just won't know why they got sick. they'll still be showing up at a hospital, still spending weeks in icus, and still dying. what's so stunning about today's statement by the president is that it's actually not the first time he's used this ridiculous logic. or said ridiculous and contradictory and, frankly, false things about testing. he's had many things to say. take a look. >> we're testing everybody that we need to test. >> anybody that wants a test can get a test. >> we took over an obsolete, broken testing system. there's not a lot of issues with testing. >> the governors are supposed to do testing. >> we are lapping the world on testing. >> we have so much testing, i don't think you need that kind of testing or that much testing. >> we've done more testing than every other country, combined. so, in a way, by doing all of this testing, we make ourselves look bad. >> i have always said testing is somewhat overrated. something can happen between a test, where it's good, and then, something happens and then all of a sudden -- this is why the whole concept of tests aren't necessarily great. but testing, certainly, is a very important function. and we have prevailed. >> we have prevailed, he said. but it's overrated, he said. but we're the best in the world. america's first in testing. also, first in deaths. but we make ourselves look bad because we're first in testing. notice what's missing is any real conception of what testing is truly for. of the early warning it can give. of the deaths it can prevent. by the president's formulation, testing is either something to boast about, or make him look bad. and it's not just testing. it's suspension of disbelief that the virus is still a grave danger. so much so that he is insisting on holding a massive rally, indoors, in tulsa, on saturday. and, today, when asked, vice president pence talked about why the idea of cramming 19,000 people, many of them older, from all parts of the country, into a crowded arena for hours on end, was actually a good idea. >> oklahoma has really been in the forefront of -- of our efforts to slow the spread. and -- and, in a very real sense, they flattened the curve. and today, their hospital capacity is -- is abundant. >> now, keeping them honest. that is simply not true. what's fascinate -- fascinating about vice president pence is his whole job is to sound folksy and stabled and broad shouldered and make sense. like there is actually a rational person listening to the president is saying and agrees with it and is communicating what exactly what the president is saying. here is the daily case rate for oklahoma, over the last two weeks. the line represents a five-day moving average. and as you can see, that line is up at the end of those 14 days. it's not down. and over the weekend, tulsa's top public health official had this piece of advice concerning the rally. quote, if you want to stay safe, don't go. public health and political aspects of what the president said today, joining us is jim acosta at the white house and cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. jim, what the president is saying about testing, i mean, it is ludicrous, if it wasn't actually also kind of dangerous. given the fact that, you know, there needs to be as much testing as possible, in order to get people to go back to work. has there been any reaction from the task force? or are they still in the witness protection program? >> anderson, i talked to a source -- >> i mean, like they're only now, occasionally, here or there. i haven't seen dr. birx on tv. you know, i don't know where they are. are they allowed out? >> well, despite all that, anderson, i did manage to get in touch with a source close to this task force, earlier this evening, who had one word for what the president had to say earlier today. and it was, quote, yikes. anderson -- and that is a direct quote -- anderson, this is a president who hates metrics that can be used by people to hold him accountable. whether it's where the stock market is, where the unemployment rate is, or where the number of cases is from the coronavirus. but, anderson, make no mistake. this is an extension of, not just what the president has been saying but, other top white house officials in recent days. that the reason why we are seeing an uptick in cases from the coronavirus is because we're doing more testing. and i talked to an administration official, who is close to this task force, who said that is simply not the case. that, yes, in some cases, sure, there are more cases because they're doing more testing. but also, because there has been a spike in infections in certain parts of the country, and there's just no -- no denying that, unless you're the president. >> sanjay, i mean, against the backdrop of the -- the new university of washington model, you have the president's upcoming rally in tulsa. the venue apparently holds 19,000 people. it's indoors. is that an event -- i mean, beyond the political reason for it, i mean, just would you go to any event that had 19,000 people, inside? >> it's the worst-case scenario, anderson. and you know, i think most people sort of realize that, by this point. there is a contagious virus out there. it's still out there. we've forgotten about it, maybe, but it hasn't forgotten about us. put up the risk factors for various things. we know that the least risky way, if you are going to have a gathering of some sort, is to do it virtually. but the most risky sort of thing is to do a large, indoor event, where people are coming from all different locations. country practice social distancing. they want to fill it to the rim. they're going to give out masks but not mandate that you wear them. there will be infections that come from this. if there is a superspreader event, a lot of people could get infected. they, then, take those infections back to their communities. and as you pointed out, anderson, many of these folks are older. maybe, vulnerable. there's real risks here. this is the exact opposite thing of -- of what we should be doing. and one thing just about the testing, anderson, becauyou and have been talking about this five months now. i can't believe the idea we should pull back on testing has become a thing, even. it is, again, the exact wrong direction that we should be going in. in 24 hours, 600 people died. there are more people who died in this country in the last 24 hours, than entire countries through this whole pandemic. we don't even know what we don't know anymore, with regard to testing in this country. it is -- it really, really worries me, as we go forward and into the rest of this year. >> and, sanjay, i mean, there's been obviously a lot of concern about a second wave. apparently, we're still in the first wave. and correct me if i'm wrong about this. dr. fauci has said any type of real normality might not return until next year. and yet, you see images of people really pushing things out. out in parks. no masks. no social distancing. obviously, look, even the -- the outdoor rallies, you have people very close quarters. yes, they're outside. you're on the move. people are wearing masks. but i mean, how badly could all of -- i mean, there is a real kind of sense of people are just -- had it or just too tired with it. or, you know, feel that, whether it's the political rally for trump, or rallies out in the street, that it's more important to voice your opinion and stand up and be counted at a time like this. but how badly could all this backfire? i mean -- what do you -- yeah. >> when you look at those imhe models, again, which we followed since the beginning, anderson. you remember that they said, initially, at one point, they said 30, 40, 50,000 people by august 4th, they kept saying, right? so, here, we are, beginning of june, and what is it? 120,000 now roughly people have died. so more than double the people have died than the projection thought would die, by august h 4th. now, they are saying 200,000 people may die by actoctober 1s. sadly, and i get no joy in saying this but i think those models are vastly underprojecting at this point. you know, when we decided to stay at home, put those stay-at-home orders in place, there are fewer than 80 people who had died in this country. between 4 and 5,000 people who had been infected. that's when we decided to go into stay at home mode. now, we're reopening and there's 120,000 people who have died and 2 million people who have become infected. it makes no sense, right? it makes no sense. and if people aren't abiding by the basic principles of mask wearing and doing things that we know can have an impact, it -- everyone is going to be worried. i get that. >> yeah. and -- and the reason -- i mean, let's remember. the reason we're not hearing from the coronavirus task force every day and the president every day, and mike pence, every day on coronavirus is because the president, the last time they actually had a briefing, the president so embarrassed himself by suggesting people get experimented on with by injecting disinfectant into them. that they stopped the coronavirus task force briefings because the president embarrassed himself, and got mad that he was called out on it and called out on his lies about it. sanjay gupta, jim acosta, thank you very much. up next, the police chief who accepted resignation of s.w.a.t. team members after she took a knee with protestors. i love rakuten, it's basically free money. it's an easy way to earn cash back on the stuff i'm already buying. sometimes it's 3% sometimes it's 8% but you're always getting cash back. so it's like getting free money. go to rakuten.com and sign up today for a $10 bonus. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day 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south florida last week. in the crowd is hallandale police chief sonia quinones. because of her kneeling, all ten members of the city s.w.a.t. team have resigned from that post but staying members of the police department. police chief joins us now. chief quinones, you met with the s.w.a.t. team this afternoon and the mayor this evening. what came of those meetings? what was their -- why were they upset that you had taken a knee? >> so, thank you very much for having me on here. we saw what happened with george floyd and mr. george floyd did not have to die. so when our community came together for a protest, in solidarity, in memory of mr. george floyd. they asked me, chief, and any other law enforcement officers, would you like to join us? and i saw that as an opportunity to stand with them, to kneel with them. this is our community, that we protect and serve. and constantly, building community. but it was important for us to show that we're together. this is not us against them. this is us working together, collaborating, and it was in reverence to our police department, our community, working together. >> the -- the vice mayor today, and i know the s.w.a.t. team, felt that you knelt -- you were kneeling for howard bo jr., a man who was killed in a raid by the hallandale s.w.a.t. team back in 2014. officers were cleared of wrongdoing, though, the city reportedly made close to half a million dollars pai pyout. is that what you understood the protest to be? or was this about george floyd? >> so, this was in reverence to the community, in solidarity. i knelt with our community in memory of mr. george floyd, not against police, not against our officers. not to reopen a case. i support our officers. it's important that everybody understands we have a lot of great men and women that work for the hallandale beach police department and across all nations. and this is a case of simply working together with the community, hand in hand. so not against police. police. we have a great deal of great officers that work with us. >> so what happens? i know the s.w.a.t. team also says that they have not received enough training. though, i believe, you upped the amount of training but it's still not as much as other places, other s.w.a.t. teams. for residents who are worried the city doesn't have a s.w.a.t. team anymore, should they be? can you use resources from elsewhere? >> so, i just want to say, i'm extremely disappointed. very disappointed that they walked away from their assignment. they never talked to me, in advance, to let me know that there were concerns. i scheduled a meeting today to meet with them because i believe in, if we're not connecting and we're not communicating, then we're not resolving concerns. so i wanted to have an opportunity to speak to them, hear them out, listen to their concerns. what they stated was not accurate. we've provided increase in training hours. we have provided over $100,000 in the last two years in s.w.a.t.-specific equipment. and then, they inaccurately and falsely stated i took a knee in solidarity with the vice mayor, which was not the case. it was in reverence with our community. >> chief quinones, appreciate your time. thank you. up next, the historic decision from the supreme court, that gives more civil rights to gay, lesbian, transgender people, at the workplace. it's an extraordinary ruling that's going to affect workplaces across the country. we'll be right back. new one a day natural fruit bites multivitamins are made with farm grown apples as the first ingredient. and key nutrients you want. so you can have a daily multivitamin free of stuff you don't want. one a day natural fruit bites. a new way to multivitamin. you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite. oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top? yeah. yeah, i could see that. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. with everything else going on today, you might have missed the landmark ruling from the supreme court in a 6-3 decision, the court said the historic civil rights act of 1964 protects lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer workers from workplace discrimination. the ruling makes it illegal nationwide for an employer to fire someone because of sexual orientation or gender identity. neil gorsuch and chief justice john roberts join the majority. joining us now is eric cervini. eric, i am halfway through your book. it's incredibly well written and such a fascinating story that you -- and an untold story. and i think it's such an important book, and i am so glad you wrote it. and the fact it's come out, days right before the supreme court ruling is incredible. reading it, i was so moved today to hear this decision by the court because talk to me -- talk to our viewers just about the generations of gay and lesbian and transgender people who have been fired from jobs, unable to work, simply for who they are. >> well, thanks, so much, for having me, anderson. yeah. as you said, this did not begin with stonewall or even with, you know, the late 1960s. the decision is the culmination of a 60-year battle, that began when a disgraced government astronomer, dr. frank was fired simply for being gay. and he became, in january 1961, the first openly gay man to assert his rights, as an american citizen, as an employee of the federal government, saying that the civil rights of homosexuals were just as valid as any other minority group. >> which was revolutionary, at the time. that's what your book really brings to life. i mean, j. edgar hoover was getting, like, daily briefings about this guy frank cameny. this astronomer. he had no money, i mean, he was starving at times. he couldn't get any jobs. he refused to give up on this quest. he was the first gay person to testify in front of congress about gay people, which is just -- blow your mind. he actually wrote his own brief to the supreme court, trying to get them to take this up. and i -- and he actually even got the first demonstration in front of the white house, in the late '50s which, at the time, was -- i mean, you can't even overestimate how startling that was to -- to america. >> uh-huh. and i'm glad you mentioned fbi because, of course, if you were protesting for your rights as a gay poor federal employee, ther were very good likelihood that photographers would be there, taking your photograph at the demonstration. and then, calling up the state department, calling up your private employer and saying, did you know that your employee is a sexual deviant? so he was, as you said, really e the first to fight back. and more directly to today was the first to persuade the american civil liberties union that gay rights, that queer rights, were a valid civil liberties issue because until frank cameny, that was not a concept widely regarded in the legal community. so with aclu as an important figure in this case, then, we have to thank him and all the attorneys who are so heroic. >> and also, at the time, i mean, gay people were still being arrested. still being sent, you know, to mental institutions. you know, people had lobotomies, shock treatment. i mean, it was really incredibly brave is a minor word for this. if you would just talk to, also, the debt i think that gay people, lesbian people, transgender people in this country, especially white, gay, lesbian, transgender people, owe to the black civil rights movement and the fight for equality for black-americans. because so -- those -- frank cameny and others really borrowed the methods of the peaceful nonviolent protests of the civil rights movement. >> and there's been discussion in recent weeks about how stonewall was led by people of color but i think that actually minimizes the role of the black freedom movement in our attainment of our own rights. as you said, this is a 1964 bill that was written, in response to the 1963 march on washington which, itself, was organized by a gay, black man. so it is not just stonewall. exactly. by byrod rustin. and so, we owe, not just the riots and the people who fought there but all the figures within the black freedom movement. figures like marcia p. johnson and sylvia rivera who later established the foundations for the legal fight >> the book is "the deviance war it's a fascinating read. anyone interested in american history or queer history, i urge them to read it. eric, thank you so much. really appreciate it. thanks for writing the book. what an investigation revealed when looking at president trump's hurricane dorian scandal. noaa's action at the time. 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