heroes.com. thanks for watching, our coverage continues. good evening. last night after president trump walked out of a white house meeting with democrats and gave a rambling, angry defensive and misleading press conference in the rose garden, i described it as not normal, as in not normal behavior for a president. after what happened today, though, i've got say i think i was wrong, because tonight we know that by the standards of this president, that kind of behavior is normal, especially now that it's happened for a second straight day. it's normal meaning typical. it occurs with regularity and predictability. it happens over and over again. it doesn't seem like he can help himself. today at a press event with farmers and ranchers, the president of the united states, the chief commander in forces, dissolve into another airing of grievances about himself. like last time, it was something house speaker nancy pelosi said that set him off. the event started with the president making what was supposed to be the headline announcement, except it want exactly true. >> so today i'm announcing that i have directed secretary perdue to provide $16 billion in assistance to america's farmers and ranchers. it all comes from china. >> keeping him honest, it doesn't. the money comes from tariffs on chinese exports which american importers and consumers pay. in any case, he pretty quickly digressed. and with the farmers and ranchers still standing behind him, returned to yesterday's walkout and the woman who had obviously gotten under his skin, speaker of the house nancy pelosi. here is a collection of her remarks from throughout the event as he kept returning to the subject, trying to emphasize that he was very calm yesterday, not upset at all. >> i was so calm. you all saw me minutes later. i was at a news conference. i was extremely calm. i was probably even more so in that room. so i walked into the cabinet room. you had the group cryin' chuck, crazy nancy. i tell you what, i've been watching her, and i have been watching her for a long period of time. she's not the same person. she has lost it. >> she reminded me of beto. she actually reminded me of beto. maybe a little worse. >> i was extremely calm, much like i am right now. and it was sad when i watched nancy all moving the movement and the hands and the craziness. i don't want to say crazy nancy, because if i say that, you're going to say it's a copy of crazy bernie, and that's no good, because bernie is definitely crazy. but i did it because we had this instance at least once before where i was very, very calm on another occasion, and they walked out to the sticks, and they said it was horrible. he was ranting. he was raving. he was pounding the table. the reason i didn't do that is because i didn't want them to say i would do that, but they said it anyway. >> this was an event about farmers, the people standing behind him. then he went off on the woman who leads a coequal branch of government and the second in line of succession. he suggested is crazy, mocks what he clearly believes are physical disabilities or perhaps signs of aging. he then describes himself like this. >> i'm an extremely stable genius, okay. >> okay. number one, anyone who is an extremely stable genius, whatever that means, would not feel the need to describe themselves as such. i mean, if you're stable, you don't really need to go around announcing it. you're just stable. nothing breeds confidence and a sense of stability than the leader of the free world insisting he is stable, and not for the first time, i should add. oh, and if you're a genius, ditto. geniuses don't go around with license plates they paid extra to say genius. they don't need to because they're smarter than that. number two, anyone who is an extremely stable genius would not rise to take the bait of his opponents every single time. that's not a counterpuncher, that's a sucker. and number three, if you are extremely stable genius, or even just a stable genius, you would not do what the president then proceeded to do today. he asked his subordinates to publicly proclaim his stable temperament. i imagine it's what a family dinner with kim jong-un is like. >> kellyanne, what was my temperament yesterday? let me ask you this, mercedes. you're always a straight talker. you were in that room yesterday. >> yes, sir. >> what was my attitude when i walked in? larry, you were there. there were many people there, by the way. many people. we can get you 20 other people to say this. what was my attitude yesterday at the meeting? hi, sarah. we were just talking about the meeting. were you there yesterday? were you there, hogan? you know about it. >> calling on hogan gidley. in fairness, the president, political opposition leaders can be pretty irritating, especially when they do what speaker pelosi did this morning, clearly pushing his hot buttons. >> but the president, again, stormed out. i think first pound the table, walk out the door. what? next time have the tv cameras in there while i have my say. that didn't work for him either. and now this time, another temper tantrum. again, i pray for the president of the united states. i wish that his family or his administration or his staff would have an intervention for the good of the country. >> okay. i mean, that's certainly a jab suggesting that the president needs an intervention. but is it any worse than a member of the opposition shouting "you lie" during the state of the union as one did to president obama, or one comparing you to a used car salesman, as many did to richard nixon? presidents have been called all sorts of names by all sorts of lawmakers for a very long time on both sides of the aisle, and they've all managed to do their jobs in spite of it. until it seems now. late today speaker pelosi took another swipe, tweeting, quote, when the extremely stable genius, end quote, begins acting extremely presidential, i'll be able to work with him on infrastructure, trade and other issues. more on all this from cnn's jim acosta who joins me now. the scene today at the white house, it was bizarre, even though it's come to be normal. to go around the room trying to get your subordinates to back you up, it just was weird. >> it was strange. and if you're trying to demonstrate that nancy pelosi is not under your skin, i don't know if the president accomplished that. obviously, he demonstrated that she has gotten under his skin. i talked to a source close to the white house who advises the president earlier this evening who said maybe she hasn't gotten under his skin, but she has gotten his attention, and that is somebody who is close to the president. and so they understand i think inside the president's team of advisers and so on that there does appear to be some sparring going on between president trump and nancy pelosi, and perhaps it's not all going in his direction at this point. i will say i talked to a couple of people who were in that room earlier this afternoon, anderson. they don't want to speak on the record. but they're saying, listen, we feel like we were telling the truth, and we told the president he was being calm during that meeting with nancy pelosi. one of these officials said listen, it was nancy pelosi who was shellshocked that the president called her out in front of her team and in front of other people in the room. and that she is the one who should be explaining for her demeanor during that meeting. but anderson, i would tell you, talking to my sources earlier today, there is something else going on here, and i think it's important to note. and that is some of this is tactical. i talked to a source who talks to the president regularly who said that the president is trying to up the rhetoric in this fight with house democrats in the hope that he'll ramp up the pressure so high that they will essentially put up or shut up on this matter of impeachment. and i think, anderson, i think that points to a very interesting aspect in all of this. the president does not like being in this in between no-man's land that nancy pelosi has him right now. remember, there are a lot of house democrats who want her to go all the way and go for impeachment. she has stopped short of that and said i like this place where the president is right now, where he is just under perpetual investigation. the president has shown in the last 48 hours he doesn't like being in that place, and he has been demonstrating that over and over again in these outbursts in front of the cameras. >> jim acosta, thanks very much. now from senior obama adviser david axelrod. also cnn chief political analyst gloria borger and max boot, author of "the corrosion of conservatism: why i left the right." gloria, president trump wants america to believe that speaker pelosi is not getting under his skin, he's not doing a very good job, and in this sense he is completely transparent. he is unable to restrain himself. >> no, he can't. and today was, you know, exhibit a, b and c. this is somebody who is completely reactive. nancy pelosi said, you know, i pray. i pray for the country and i pray for your family and suggest there should be an intervention, and then at an availability on something totally different, he talks about how she is unstable and how she's losing it. and, you know, anderson, i went back and looked at the way he talked about hillary clinton in 2016, and he used some of that same language against her. he said she was unstable. she's going short circuit, and i don't think she's all there, and that is exactly what he said about nancy pelosi today. he said she's lost it and she is disintegrating. so i think he has found a new way to attack her, but, of course, it's an old trick of his. >> david, i mean of all his political antagonists on capitol hill, why do you think -- do you think it's something about nancy pelosi that he is particularly rattled by? i was talking to senator debbie stabenow last night. she said basically it's because nancy pelosi is a smart, strong woman. >> well, it may be. i don't really pretend to understand what it is, but she's got his number, and she gets under his skin, and she knows that she's getting under his skin. and this is a propitious time for her to have a fight with the president because she is trying to hold her caucus together and slow down the march to impeachment which she thinks is not ripe right now. and the best way to do it is to have these kinds of back and forths with the president. he has been totally cooperative. one thing i'd say is you don't look like -- he calls himself a stable genius. you don't look particularly stable when you march out five of your staffers and, you know, like captain queeg and the caine mutiny, question him about whether he seemed sane. and you don't seem particularly ingenious when you call the leaders of congress together to tell them if they don't stop investigating you, you won't do the people's business. so she's got him tied up in knots right now. >> and max, it's obviously calculated on speaker pelosi's part. she says whether it's the president throws tantrums or an intervention thing. she certainly knows how to push his buttons. what is in it for her other than upsetting him? is it, as david said, that this kind of puts a stopgap on members of her own party, trying to push for impeachment? >> i think speaker pelosi is masterful in her handling of donald trump. remember, there are a lot of people in the democratic caucus who thought her days had passed, and clearly that's not the case. because whether it's on the government shutdown or these investigations, she clearly has his number, and he doesn't know quite how to react. and i think as david suggests, she is trying to walk a fine line between investigating trump and getting his misdeeds before the american public and not jumping into an impeachment, which could backfire for the democrats. and i think right now she basically has the trust of her caucus, and for good reason, because she looks like she is pretty strong and stable, and donald trump is basically resorting to his old insults, as gloria pointed out. this actually kind of reminded me of what happened with hillary. remember in that debate where hillary clinton said he was a puppet of russia. and he said no puppet, you're the puppet. he is doing the exact same thing where speaker pelosi says he is having a temper tantrum and he replies oh, no, she is crazy and she is coming unhinged. pretty clearly he is the one who is coming unhinged. >> gloria, again, the old very stable genius comment, i thought it was a one-off, today was extremely stable genius. it's actually been repeated twice, the president has done this twice. do his aides, i mean they must know how this sounds. you know, you don't hear bill gates or jeff bezos saying that about themselves. >> one would think that they understand that when he calls himself a very stable genius, that it sounds ridiculous. but if you look at that scene today, at this press conference he had as david was talking about, he turns to his staff and it was like dear leader. why don't you tell everybody how great i am, why don't you tell everybody how i didn't get upset at that meeting with members of congress? why don't you tell everyone how smart i am? it was absurd to watch, and we all had to sit there and watch that. so how could any of these people go into the president and say you know, mr. president, you really shouldn't call yourself a very stable genius when they are actually doing the same thing in public? >> and david, it reminded me the same time the cabinet was together. i don't remember if it was the first time the cabinet was together, but they had to go around the table and say how amazing it was to work for him. >> yeah, gloria is right. it's all very north korean, even calling himself an extremely stable genius. maybe he's just been hanging around with kim jong-un too much. but the look is very, very bad, and right now he just looks flustered. and i'm sure they're going to try and figure out a way to pull out of this because it is -- it is damaging to him. but pelosi is going to keep pushing those buttons, and my guess is he'll respond in pavlovian fashion. >> max boot, david axelrod, and gloria borger, thanks. we have more ahead including a democratic senator's take on this and his committee's job looking into possible wrongdoing by the president and his people. also more into the potential tense relationship between the president and house speaker. we'll hear from her former top adviser. plus, my conversation with howard stern covering a lot of ground, including his thoughts on one of his regular former guests. >> when you see him now in the white house as president, what do you see? 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>> speaker pelosi is a smart, strong woman who clearly has his number. added to her personal effect on him is the fact that the courts are starting to start the dominoes falling. and the disclosures ordered by the courts in new york, the new york state legislature requiring additional disclosure of his financial affairs are i think are driving him in this direction. but beyond the name-calling, there is a profoundly important point here, because nancy pelosi went to that meeting prepared to talk about infrastructure and to try to reach a compromise. so did senator schumer. and the president said to them you can't legislate and investigate at the same time. that is really holding hostage the needs of the american people and the american system of government. >> yeah, i get the criticism that a president should be able to, you know, deal with investigations or deal with criticism and also do the people's business. does it help, though -- clearly there is a strategy for speaker pelosi saying just this morning that president trump, you know, may have committed impeachable offenses, talked about maybe he needs an intervention from his family or his staff. is that helpful, though? saying that he needs an intervention is clearly something that's going to agitate him. >> well, saying things that will agitate him really is an unknowable beforehand. there is so much that seems to agitate him. i think speaker pelosi is absolutely right that we can do oversight and scrutiny, which is congress' responsibility under article i of the constitution, and at the same time legislate, which we need to do on rebuilding roads and bridges and rail and other infrastructure, on health care, improving the prescription drug costs, which are way too high, on veterans issues, on tax reform. we need to do both at the same time. and for the president to say he cannot do both, no legislation unless you stop the investigation is fundamentally a betrayal of the american system of government, and it is hostage-taking in the worst sense of the word. the president needs to be held accountable. >> there are a lot of republicans who say the democrats don't really want to work with the president on things like infrastructure because they don't want to give the president any kind of, you know, positive thing to run on in 2020. he is certainly making it very easy for democrats not to work with him because he himself is saying i'm not going to work with you. >> it will be on him if there are no accomplishments because very clearly, he will be the one who is the obstacle. let me give you a couple of very practical examples. just today, anderson, by very bipartisan overwhelming vote, we approved disaster relief and overcame many of his objections. for example, to aiding puerto rico. we also did a bill on robocalls that protects the american people against these unsolicited and unconsented calls. yesterday in the armed services committee where i serve, we did the national defense authorization act and by an overwhelming bipartisan majority, approved a measure that will provide hundreds of billions of dollars. that measure is not optional for the president of the united states. he can't say i won't legislate or cooperate with you until you stop investigating, and it will be on him very clearly if those measures are not approved. >> do you think that either an impeachment inquiry or actual impeachment should go forward at this time? >> i think the american people want accountability, and there will be accountability, either through an impeachment proceeding in the congress, or through the courts, possibly criminally, or through the court of public opinion at the ballot box. the important driving principle for me is accountability, and i think we have a responsibility, which we as yet have not fulfilled. we're trying to present the case to the american people. and the mueller report, which i've read twice is an extraordinary document, but most americans won't read the book. they will watch the movie through the hearings that are presented, and ultimately, the case has to be presented to them. that's the experience of watergate. >> just lastly, you reintroduced legislation to guarantee equal access to abortion everywhere as a response to the several states now passing laws restricting access to abortion. it's got 42 co-sponsors in the senate. none of them are republicans which means the bill isn't going to pass. obviously you know that better than anyone. what is the goal if the bill doesn't right now have a shot at becoming law? >> we introduced this measure because of the absolutely dire danger to women in states like alabama and georgia, kentucky, ohio where these draconian, demagogic measures have been passed that absolutely eviscerate women's reproductive rights, but also to stop the gradual erosion, the chipping away at roe v. wade, and yes, all of the 42 so far are democrats, but also keep in mind, as has been reported by cnn repeatedly today, more than 70% of the american people want roe to be viable and surviving as fundamental constitutional law. i hope we will have bipartisan agreement eventually on that measure as well to protect women's health care, because ultimately, women's health care affects all of us. men need to stand up and fight back too. >> senator richard blumenthal, i just want to ask you if you could stick around for a moment. the white house just made what could be an important move to investigate the investigators. i want to get your comment on it when we return. welcome to our lounge. enjoy your stay. thanks very much. ♪ ♪ find calm in over 1,000 airport lounges worldwide. it's another way we've got your back. the business platinum card from american express. don't do business without it. there's thousands of ingredients out there. the freshest stuff this planet can grow. not buzzword fresh. but, actually fresh-fresh. fresh. at panera, we hand-pick berries at peak-season. use creamy avocado. cage-free eggs. and a dressing fit for a goddess. oh and every ingredient is 100% clean. come taste what a salad should be. and for your next event big or small, try panera catering. panera. food as it should be. straight from the world's best plant scientists comes miracle-gro performance organics. it's miracle-gro's next big thing. ♪ ♪ organic plant food and soil that finally work. ♪ ♪ and work... and work. ♪ ♪ and yes we did say organic. for twice the bounty, guaranteed. miracle-gro performance organics. organics finally grow up. and up, and up. with licensed agents available 24/7. it's not just easy. it's having-a-walrus-in-goal easy! roooaaaar! it's a walrus! ridiculous! yes! nice save, big guy! good job duncan! way to go! 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is the memorandum telling agencies to cooperate with the attorney general, is that really necessary? >> as a former united states attorney and a state attorney general for some 20 years, i am baffled by this memorandum. there seems absolutely no reason for it. agencies have a legal obligation to cooperate with the attorney general of the united states, and it seems much more like an effort to distract with, frankly, a dull rusty object, not a bright shiny one, and i think that we already have two investigations ongoing into this area. the mueller report contains graphic detail about how the investigation got started with credible information about russian spying, that the fbi began addressing through a counterintelligence investigation. so the need for this memorandum or whatever it is in fact seems far from apparent. >> senator blumenthal, appreciate your sticking around. thanks to you very much. >> thank you. >> coming up next, nancy pelosi's former chief of staff joins us. ols coming up, my interview with media legend howard stern. >> who in the democratic field would you want to interview now? 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(romantic music) that's gross priceline. every trip is a big deal. getting back to our top story, day two of trump/pelosi feud, joining me is danny weiss, who was pelosi's chief of staff for a year and a half, has known her since 1992. danny, thanks for joining us. what do you think it is the question i'm trying to get to the bottom of, what is it about speaker pelosi that so gets under this president's skin? >> good evening, anderson. the president is overmatched. speaker pelosi is an enormously qualified person to lead this country and the president just is clearly overmatched. he is overmatched on policy and he is overmatched in terms of the personality that he has to confront. he has never dealt with a woman of this caliber, and i really don't think he knows what to do. >> you've been in a meeting with speaker pelosi and president trump. how do they interact? what is the sort of dynamic when the cameras are not there? >> well, she is an enormously gracious person no matter who she is with. i don't think she has ever met anybody whom she cannot work with or not be willing to work with. she has worked with republican presidents and democratic presidents. when they're together, they have the normal banter. the president is prone to his own form of banter, as you've all seen, and the speaker can respond in kind with that, but she's always about in the end getting down to business. and that's the problem that we're having now is these temper tantrums, these distractions are getting in the way of getting down to business, and that's her main focus, getting stuff done. >> and it does seem like today the president sort of has ratcheted this up with suggesting she's crazy or using that nickname, suggesting, you know, her unusual movements, that she's disintegrating. i'm wondering what you make of that? because it does echo some of the things he said about hillary clinton during the campaign. >> i think it's a reflection of himself when he says things like crazy and out of it and he's talking about how he feels about himself and what is taking place. i think he feels that things are unraveling for him and if i were to ever give advice to the president, i would say you have an opportunity to learn from one of the most experienced and talented politicians in this country. the speaker has so much to do with the president's success. he is aware of that. and i think that unrattles him. but he should use that as an opportunity if he really wants to get something done on jobs, on health care, on cleaning up corruption in government. they can work together. they can always get back to the center. the speaker is always willing to get back to square one and start again. they've gone through this many times. they can do it again. >> it's interesting what you say about what his criticism of her is what he thinks about himself. what tony schwartz who says that all of the tweets, the things he attacks other people for are all the things he thinks about himself. >> exactly. >> how do you see this playing out between them? what is the end game for speaker pelosi? obviously she's got issues with democrats and those who want impeachment to move forward. >> sure. >> but where do you see this going? >> well, it's not an end game, i would say. this is a continuum. she is in it for the long haul. this is a long game. i think what probably comes next is you're going to see a resettling. it's happened many times before, as everyone here that watches this show knows. the government was shut down unnecessarily for a month. during that time, the speaker suggested that the president not have the state of the union address during the government shutdown. he then reciprocated by cancelling her trip to overseas, which had never been done before to my knowledge. and then the government shutdown came to an end. the president relented, agreed to reopen the government, and the speaker reextended an invitation for him to come and have the state of the union. they can get back to square one, and i believe they will get back to square one. it's incumbent on the president to stay focused on getting results for the country. that is her absolute entire focus. lower health costs, higher pay, cleaning up government. that's what she's all about. >> danny weiss, i appreciate you being with us. thank you. i just had my interview with howard stern, including why he really thinks donald trump ran for president. yes! neutrogena® ultra sheer. unbeatable protection helps prevent early skin aging and skin cancer with a clean feel. the best for your skin. ultra sheer®. neutrogena®. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ so, i started with the stats regarding my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. like how humira has been prescribed to over 300,000 patients. and how many patients saw clear or almost clear skin in just 4 months - the kind of clearance that can last. humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to symptoms. numbers are great. and seeing clearer skin is pretty awesome, too. that's what i call a body of proof. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. want more proof? ask your dermatologist about humira. this is my body of proof. before he was president, donald trump was a frequent guest on howard stern's radio show. what few people knew until recently is trump tried to get stern to endorse him and speak on stage at the republican convention. in his fascinating new book, stern shows the evolution of donald trump from brash real estate developer to presidential candidate through his many interviews with trump. i spoke earlier today with howard stern. now the full interview is going to air tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. for the hour right here on cnn. but i wanted to share with you now some of what stern said about his relationship with trump and why he believes the president would benefit from something stern says has changed his own life, psychotherapy. >> you talk about trauma and you talked about it in relationship to president trump. >> yeah. >> that donald trump is a person who experienced a lot of trauma early on. >> yeah. from what i know of donald and his relationship with his father, it sounds traumatic. it sounds like the father was very domineering. the father expected a lot of him, and the father, i don't know, there was military school. you read these drips and drabs and you go wow. i can assure you he has been traumatized. because donald, his level of narcissism is so strong. he has trouble with empathy. we know that. and i wish he would go into psychotherapy. i would be so proud of him if he did, and he would flourish. >> but he never has. there is no way he would. >> i do not believe he has been psychotherapy. because he is demonstrating a lot of the -- a lot of the behaviors that i recognize. >> and i think as an interviewer, i've noticed this just when i used to interview. i don't get to interview him anymore, because he doesn't do it. but he was very susceptible to flattery, and if you gave -- and i noticed this in your interviews with him, you would throw out something like your poll numbers, never seen anything like this. >> well, it's a definite technique. >> it washes over him. >> yes. it's a technique. it's like if you meet someone who has a bad self-image, oh, you're very beautiful, your handsome, you're this or that. with donald it always starts out. notice i call him in every interview, mr. trump. this is before he was president. mr. trump. >> that's intentional? >> absolutely. someone had asked me, why do you call him mr. trump? because it loosens him up. he feels respected. he feels good about himself. and now he is going to roll. he is going to open up to me. >> when you see him now in the white house as president, what do you see? given your history with him and how you know him. >> first of all, it's unbelievable to me. and i've documented my thoughts about how this whole candidacy even came about. this was a publicity stunt. i happened -- >> you have no doubt about that? >> i have no doubt, because i have some inside information. and the thing is that it started out with "the art of the deal," the book. and it was a pr guy's idea. he said donald, what you need to do is we'll make a sort of a rumor that you're running for president, and donald's like oh. so all of the sudden he was being interviewed. the book goes right to number one. when he had a second book come out, that's when he decided to start the rumor that he was going to run for president. and then this time around in the last election, "the apprentice" apprentice ratings were not what they were. he wasn't getting a raise. what's better way than to get interest. i'll run for president and get lots of press and that's what happened. >> do you think he likes being president. >> i don't think so at all. he liked winning the presidency. he libs to win. i'm not his therapist. i had many good laughs with him. in some ways i think he has been wronged the way they use my transcript. in a way to frame him. for example. when he said the line about stds being his vietnam. that was a very joking thing on my show. listen to the tape you wouldn't take it seriously. he was in the spirit of the program. and he was they tried to use it against him. how dare he compare himself to a veteran of the vietnam war. okay. everybody take a deep breath and relax. having said that, the stuff in the book is are revealing about the president. there is something to be learned sfwl is he the same person you interviewed? >> yeah. i do. he's the same exact person. the only way you really change is to do analysis. so, yeah. he's the same guy. >> he asked you to speak at the rnc. i had no idea. >> he used to call me from the campaign trail. he was desiring of my endorsement. i have a big audience and he's familiar with them. it would be comforting for him for me to get on board. when he secured the nomination and thinking about the convention, i think he wanted show business there. and called me personally. and asked me if i would go to the republican convention and endorse him. i was like oh gosh for a split second i said can you imagine if i was all in. i would be the head of the fcc. on the supreme court. anything i'd ask. i believe it 100%. if ben carson can get in there. donald would have appointed me. >> because he's transactional? or -- >> he would have been grateful. i'm on his team. regardless if i know what i'm doing. >> do you think he wants to be reelected? >> psychology if he got under the hood. he would be what am i doing? >> let's check in with chris for cuomo "prime time." >> breaking news. the president says we have to move on from mueller. i have been saying great let's get him on the stand and we can move on. that is the move. the president says no. i'm going to cooperate. not anything with mueller or congress. the beginning and how the russia probe was started. it sound like something out of the onion. it's something true and also makes you cry. are we really going to go back through something already investigated? how is this not more of a cover. we have the nancy pelosi inner circle on. about whether this attributed to the mad move of the president and we have part of the young gart of republicans in the house. what does he think about this. what needs to has been to go forward. and closing on the case of julian asang. >> look forward to it. more with howard stern ahead. his thoughts on the 2020 democratic candidates. the freshest stuff this planet can grow. not buzzword fresh. but, actually fresh-fresh. fresh. at panera, we hand-pick berries at peak-season. use creamy avocado. cage-free eggs. and a dressing fit for a goddess. oh and every ingredient is 100% clean. come taste what a salad should be. and for your next event big or small, try panera catering. panera. food as it should be. my time is thin, but so is my lawn. now there's scotts thick'r lawn 3-in-1 solution. with a soil improver! seed! and fertilizer to feed! now yard time is our time. this is a scotts yard. last year, the department of veteran's affairs partnered with t-mobile for business, to help care for veterans everywhere. with va video connect, powered by t-mobile, men and women who serve can speak to their doctors from virtually anywhere, and get the care they deserve, so they can return to their most important post. best friend, quarterback, or just dad. the va provides the care, t-mobile provides the coverage. you know those butterflies aren't actually in the room? 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