There was no surveillance done for political purposes against our campaign. Sarah sanders also said, quote, it was also agreed that white house Chief Of Staff kelly will immediately set up a meeting with the fbi, doj and dni together with congressional leaders to review highly classified and other information they have requested. The claim of a spy within the Trump Campaign comes with as of yet little or nothing to back it up and plenty to raise suspic n suspicions about its validity, including someone the president went out of his way to praise today. And a very courageous man, hes courageous, congressman devin nunes. Thank you very much, devin, for being here, appreciate it. He is the chairman of the house Intelligence Committee. For weeks hes been seeking information on a Top Secret Intelligence Source who reportedly contacted two Trump Campaign advisers and one official, including carter page, who was already under suspicion for contacts with russia and
George Papadopoulos, whose drunken boasting about getting dirt on the Clinton Campaign triggered the investigation in the first place. Senior fbi and intelligence officials warned that providing the information could jeopardize the source and at that point the president agreed. Then rightwing media got ahold of the story. On may 10th an oped ran in the wall street journal. Did the bureau engage in out right spying against the trump 2016 campaign. Rush limbaugh talked about a spy in the campaign citing devin nunes and two days later Andrew Mccarthy wrote from pain staking research, nunes and Committee Staff believe they have identified such a spy. Last week the New York Times did some careful reporting not labeling this as a spy which Breitbart News said leakers confirm fbi ran spy operation against Trump Campaign. Of The Press Corps Out of there. Today was another day the white house has not given a briefing. Have they given an explanation as to why . No, no explanation why. They were taking our questions and our calls throughout the day as they often do, but there was no reason i dont think why They Shouldnt Have had a briefing today. The president did speak over at the cia. Sometimes they say when the president is speaking they want that message to carry the day. But we are seeing, and this may become a trending, but were seeing fewer and fewer briefings. There were only two last week. On friday, sarah sanders, the White House Press secretary, did not hold a briefing but somehow she had enough time to go on sean hannity for a pretaped interview in the evening. She had time to do that but not to give us a briefing and there wasnt one day. Thanks very much. On capitol hill Chuck Grassley has joined the call for information on the russia probe. In a letter to Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein he requested former associate Deputy Attorney general bruce orrs communications with christopher steele. Richard blumenthal also serves
stuff happened. And so the precedent is very dangerous that an investigation will be launched simply because a president wants to stop an investigation. There are some do you see this as Rod Rosenstein capitulating for the president or buying time for the investigation . If theres no there, there whats wrong with having the Inspector General look into it and, you know, settle it once and for all . Thats a really important point, anderson. There is no there, there so all of this is likely to be seen eventually as a sideshow. The Mueller Investigation is proceeding, grinding along, bringing indictments and seeking and obtaining convictions. But the point here is that the principal of the objectivity and independence of the Department Of Justice has been its a facesaving bone to the president but has larger implications. The second thing that came out of this meeting is that Chief Of Staff kelly will meet
with the fbi, the Justice Department and dni with congressional leaders to review intelligence, highly classified and other information. Does that concern you . Is that appropriate . Im very concerned that information relating to a covert agent and informant may be made public and some of it unfortunately already has. There are criminal penalties against that kind of disclosure, ten years in prison is the punishment. But our credibility around the world depending on our ability to keep secrets is very much at risk here. There was a similar meeting last week, just as the Inspector General investigation already is ongoing. So the change here is not all that dramatic, but the disclosure of any of this Classified Information could be extremely damaging. The New York Times is reporting that this was not a spy within the Trump Campaign spying on the Trump Campaign, that this was a person, an asset
to meet with George Papadopoulos and carter page and same clo cl was the third person. I can understand from Trump Supporters why theyre suspic n suspicious of the deep state and why should they take the word of what the New York Times has reported and others have said. Theres no reason for them to take anybodys word. There is simply no evidence that that informant or agent acting covertly, seeking information about russian interference in the campaign, was anything more than that kind of informant. Not a spy, not conducting infiltration or surveillance. But ultimately there will be no there, there and i think that the Inspector General investigation will vindicate that part of the investigation. The president s attorney, rudy giuliani, has been claiming that the mueller team hopes to wrap things up, their investigation, by september 1st. Again, that only comes from rudy
authority. He has Constitutional Authority to ask the Department Of Justice to investigate. Its the circumstances here that are so concerning. Number one, no factual predicate. You know, when an fbi agent begins an investigation, they sit down and they do a form that says heres the factual predicate and the potential illegality involved or tell their superior or Special Agent in charge what is the violation of law here, whats the factual predicate. Again, no evidence whatsoever except whats going through the president s mind. Thats one dangerous point. But also weve been through some dark eras where officials asked or directed investigations without any factual basis, si l simply on suspicion or for political motives. Do you believe the credibility of the Department Of Justice and the fbi is being permanently harmed . I think it has been harmed. I say that with great sadness. Ive spoken on the floor of the
senate to say that there are dedicated hardworking people working in the fbi day in, day out, they make cases, they put their lives in danger, and the president s continual, consistent, relentless attack on this agency has had some effect. But i think we can rebuild that credibility. When i say we, its on us as Public Officials to speak out. My republican colleagues as well. The Republican Party used to be the Law And Order party. This is about our public safety. When an fbi agent goes to talk to a potential witness and he or she has heard the president of the United States attacking the fbi, it undermines that agents ability to do his or her job. Senator blumenthal, appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Coming up next, what has the president played. Well tell you what a conservative ally of his says what the senator said was a facesaving bone thrown to the
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against the president s demand on the Justice Department. Moments ago his republican colleague, jeff flake, had this to say. Its not appropriate, it really isnt, how doj responds will tell if were in a crisis or not. So far its held. As for one of the leaders of the conservative House Freedom caucus, his take seems to be that the Deputy Attorney general put one over on the president. Mark meadows tweeting Rod Rosenstein knows exactly what happened and what is in the documents requested by congress. Either the matter warranted investigation long ago and he did nothing but hes seen the facts and believes nothing is wrong. His belated referral to the i. G. Is not news, it is a ruse. Here to talk about it is gloria borger, phil mudd and carrie cordero. You have senator blumenthal saying he worries about the precedent it set and the president supporters are saying the president got played. Right. Conservatives like meadows, i talked to a conservative attorney involved in all of this today who said, look, this is
just sweeping it under the rug because the Inspector General, a, will take a while and, b, doesnt have subpoena power. So theyre saying how are you ever going to get to the bottom of this . They believe that rosenstein was just trying to diffuse this, maybe save his job, and thats president eventually will get frustrated. Phil, you worked in the fbi and the cia. Is there precedent for this . You now have this investigation from the Inspector General being expanded and you have Chief Of Staff kelly going to be going through some Classified Information with folks from the fbi, the doj, the dni, and also congressional leaders. Yes, sure. But i remember talking to Vice President cheney back years ago before the iraq war when he was coming over to cia headquarters saying whats the intelligence you have, whats the connection between al qaeda and saddam hussein. So there is precedent for political involvement. I think the interesting story here and gloria alluded to this
is timing. This is really fascinating from inside washington. This might look like the Deputy Attorney general and the fbi director sort of capitulated. Whats going to happen in the next two or three months . I would speculate that mueller will come up with some of the final stages of the investigation. If he goes where i think hes going to go, which is indictments that get closer to the white house, this issue falls by the wayside. So you think rosenstein is buying time for mueller. Yes, hes punting, buying time. Look at the alternative, he says no. What does the president do . More collusion that theres evidence against me, not me against the russians. More evidence that they rolled over on Hillary Clinton. What was his option, to say no . It might have torpedoed the investigation, anderson. Carrie, do you have any doubt that folks on capitol hill, the president s allies, theyre not going to ratchet down their attempts to obtain information from the fbi and doj, theyre going to have these meetings with kelly. Do you have any doubt are they acting as private investigators on behalf of the president . Well, you know, it really looks a lot like there is
coordination between the white house and some of his allies on capitol hill to get access to information. Im going to disagree with phil a little bit in terms of i think theres a big difference between Vice President cheney asking for intelligence information in the context of making National Security decisions and the white house today demanding making demands about investigations that need to be expanded based on an investigation that targets individuals or has subjects or individuals who are affiliated with the campaign and who has interviewed many people affiliated with the white house. So this investigation i think is very different than a National Security activity. With respect to the Justice Departments referral to the Inspector General, there is no underestimating the extent to which an Inspector General potentially can be disruptive to ongoing investigative activities. So while i understand why the Deputy Attorney general went ahead and handled things in this way by saying, you know what,
were going to have the i. G. Expand their look into whether or not there was any inappropriate political influence, i am worried that then that causes i. G. Investigators, who are they going to be interviewing and who are they going to be investigating . Theyre going to be investigating the fbi. And that is disruptive to Ongoing Operations if theres not a real reason to do it. And carrie is right. I confess, im wrong on this one. But on the point of the i. G. , thats right. People who look at this as sweeping this under the rug have never dealt with the i. G. The i. G. Is a sledgehammer. When they came after us when i was at the bureau, if theyre investigating you, they will find something wrong. Its like looking at an hour of an Anderson Cooper program and saying was there ever 30 seconds that Didnt Go Completely right. Look at what happened with andrew mccabe. These are serious investigations that take a while. And so, you know, theres the question, the president wants an answer tomorrow. And that isnt going to happen. Does this whole thing of whats happened with this confidential informant, the
president is alleging hes a spy targeted at the campaign, does it hurt other confidential informants who cooperate with the fbi or with the cia who feel like, wait a minute, am i going to get blown . Yeah, of course. If you walk into somebody remember, political corruption is part of the fundamentals of what the fbi does. Forget about the president. Its a city council in a city across america where one of the City Council Members is saying im going to give you a contract because youre a friend of the family. What do you do tomorrow if youre the fbi agent running that investigation. Do you say i guarantee you, we can protect your identity. One other issue and nobody has asked this question. I want to know the answer. Is the fbi or somebody else at the request of this individual whos been now identified in other venues, is the fbi because of what the president has done providing that Person Security . Because that guy, i guarantee you, is at risk today. The president put that individual at risk because of the at risk from whom, though . Anderson, how much hate mail
do you get . Im a low budget third rate cnn commentator and i get hate mail of people saying i want to hurt you. Heres my cell phone number, im going to beat the crap out of you. What do you think this guy is going to get and whos responsible because of what the president has done to protect him. Who now is providing protection and i bet its the u. S. Government. This is such a different scenario because in the past people in the fbi or Justice Department or Intelligence Community, theyre used to the media, for example, trying to dig at information and trying to find out sources and dig behind investigations. Whats different this time is that the impetus to out this individual is coming from the white house and congressional overseers. Not just the white house, the president of the United States. The president of the United States. So to the extent the dni, for example, who was supposedly in this meeting today, whose statutory role is to protect sources and methods, to protect Classified Information, i would
think that the dni would have something to say about this exposure of this confidential source. And if you want to be conspiratorial about it, you could say this is a way for the president to push and push and Push Rosenstein and push wray until one of them decides they cant deal with it anymore and just quits. Gloria borger, phil mudd, carrie cordero, thank you very much. Just ahead, Jeffrey Toobin and Alan Dershowitz join us next. So were committed to helping veterans through job training when their service ends. And to hiring 10,000 veterans and military spouses to be part of our workforce in the next 5 years. Because no matter where you serve. Or when you serve. Tmobile stands ready to serve you. So we provide halfoff on all family lines for military. Where were changing withs . Contemporary makeovers. Then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. Who has the upper hand now . Start winning today. Book now at lq. Com. Let someone else do the heavy lifting. Tripadvisor compares prices from over 200 booking sites to find the right hotel for you at the lowest price. So you barely have to lift a finger. Or a wing. Tripadvisor. With Dell Small Businessout your Technology Advisors you get the oneonone partnership you need to grow your business. The dell vostro 15 laptop. Contact a dell advisor today. Surveillance of his campaign for political purposes as he said. A demand in essence that the investigators be investigated. And just like that, the phrase constitutional crisis has been popping up again. Jeffrey toobin has a new piece in The New Yorker about whether the fervor to impeach the president will start a Democratic Civil war. He joins us along with Alan Dershowitz. Jeff, is there anything illegal about what the president is asking the Justice Department to do . I dont think its illegal, but i do think its a violation of the norms that have been in effect for decades in terms of how the president deals with the fbi. We have a system in place where the president , though he is the head of the executive branch, allows the investigative functions of the fbi to function independently. This is especially true when the president is the subject of the investigation. Its entirely inappropriate for what the president is doing, but i think its legal. Professor dershowitz, there may not be anything illegal or unconstitutional about the president ordering this investigation. It does go against decades of how president s have conducted themselves, would you agree . Well, decades may be overstating it. Its certainly gone against some years. Obviously early in our history, jefferson, lincoln, Franklin Delano roosevelt, john kennedy, all instructed the Justice Department who to investigate, who not to investigate. But lets start with the end. I think an investigation is warranted, whether the president was right in asking for it or not is a different question. Whenever any undercover person gets close to a political campaign, its worth of an investigation. You need no probable cause to put an informant in a campaign. Theres no Judicial Oversight. There is the risk, the possibility that it may be done for an improper purpose or the agent may become an agent provocateur. Its worth an investigation. If it turns out theres nothing
there, fine, lets be reassured there was nothing there. But i think doing an investigation by the Inspector General is a good thing. I do agree with jeffrey that it would be better if it didnt come in a selfserving way from the president. Though what the president did was perfectly legal and consistent with the role of a unitary executive who was also head of the Justice Department but it does fly in the face of very recent tradition. But lets be clear. Alan, youre throwing around terms like provocateur. Theres absolutely no evidence that this individual was that. The mere fact that the president can call for and receive an investigation to what is a perfectly legitimate investigation just shows why you shouldnt have this in the first place. But jeff, if theres no there, there whats the harm in having an investigation to settle it once and for all. Thats like saying, well, if you have Nothing To Fear, isnt
it okay if the fbi searches your home . The act of the fbi investigating has a Chilling Effect on people who are involved. It is deeply disruptive. It is time consuming. It is scary. It is not something that people should ordinarily expect. And just because its ultimately the fbi is ultimately vindicated doesnt mean that you should have an investigation in the first place. But youre assuming without any evidence that there was a legitimate basis for putting an undercover agent into the campaign and having him had contact with some of the campaign aides. That may turn out to be the case. But i certainly dont assume that. There was no judicial intrusion, there was no warrant. This is just a decision that was made. I think were entitled to be assured that they were not inserted he was not inserted for an illegitimate purpose. We know that agents arent always passive. Once theyre inserted, ive had
a lot of experience with this in ordinary cases, they begin to do things beyond just collecting information and listening. Listening usually involves a twoway conversation. And id like to know and i think the American Public would like to know what the basis was, was it legitimate. If it was, lets put it behind us. If it wasnt, lets know that. But saying he was inserted into the campaign, it makes it sound as if he had an office in trump tower. It sounds like he met with papadopoulos, carter page and i guess sam clovis in some capacity. Right. Overseas with carter page, according to the reporting by the New York Times, the Washington Post and also with papadopoulos, and basically asked questions that didnt seem to get many really answers. Well, we dont know that. All we know is that he was sent to have contact with people in the middle of a campaign. I have to tell you, if this had happened to Hillary Clinton, the aclu would be jumping up and down the way they did when i was on the board of the aclu when
undercover agents were put into the antiwar movement, into civil rights movement. All they were there was to listen, into muslim churches. Civil libertarians are generally a little bit suspicious when undercover agents go just to ask questions. And i think we as civil libertarians ought to be suspicious of this. Allay our suspicions and then well be fine. Jeff, it didnt come out of nowhere. George papadopoulos, according to all the reporting, had already voiced and spoken to an australian official which is what got this on the radar in the first place. This was a legitimate investigation. We dont know that. You have no evidence that it wasnt. Lets find out. There was ample evidence of collusion between russia and the Trump Campaign. Thats what this whole investigation was about. So the idea that now the investigation has to be investigated, it just shows what happens when the president takes control of an investigation of him. So now what youre saying is
there was ready evidence of collusion so it was legitimate to put an informant in the fbi to see if, a, there was enough evidence to warrant further investigation, maybe ask some hard questions to get them to give incriminating answers. That does sound like a pretty fulsome investigation. I think the American Public has to be assured that there was a basis. Its not enough for Jeffrey Toobin to say there was collusion already at that time. I want to know what the facts are that justify that. Professor dershowitz, some fbi agents, i saw an oped piece, said this may have been actually a way to protect the campaign. Ive heard that before. The they sent fbi agents to go talk to George Papadopoulos and carter page, that could be seen as more provocative as
having some professor or whoever this person was meet privately with these people. When they sent agents into Martin Luther king during the kennedy campaign, they said they were doing it to protect Martin Luther king from the influence of communists. They always say theyre doing it to protect the good people from the bad people. That may be true. Lets get the facts. Im not willing to accept an assumption that Law Enforcement is always legitimate, that without Judicial Oversight that what they do is always correct. I want to apply the shoe on the other foot test. If this had been an intrusion into the hillary Clinton Campaign, would people be saying the same thing or is this special lack of concern because its donald trump. I just want to be assured. Are you just sucking up to Law Enforcement . I am not sucking up to Law Enforcement, but the questions alan has about this case he could raise about absolutely any fbi investigation. And i do. And you do. And if there a president ially
directed investigation of the fbi agents in those cases . The answer is of course not, because whats going on here is that donald trump is trying to destroy this investigation. Thats whats going on here, not any sort of legitimate inquiry well, if he is, hes not doing a good job. This wont destroy the investigation, it wont derail the investigation, well just get some facts. If youre right, well all be satisfied. And if your departmeapartmen Nothing To Fear, then its okay for the fbi to search the place. You could say they have Nothing To Fear having an fbi in the campaign. Privacy is important. Privacy is a legitimate concern. Whether you have something to hide or not. Professor dershowitz, Jeffrey Toobin, thank you very much. More ahead. Claims of campaign spying, demands for investigation, so much jarri dpogon you want to h
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point. So you believe you believe this was an effort to protect the campaign because clearly the Trump Administration sees this as spying on the Trump Campaign itself. Well, thats certainly the interpretation. But, you know, i am very confident that the objective of the fbi was to learn as much as they could about what the russians were trying to do. Frankly, i wish the president were as aggressive about doing something about the russians undermining us as he is about this informant. Can you explain how important Confidential Sources are to the fbi, to the cia, in terms of intelligence gathering, and do you think this is going to hurt that effort, hurt the confidence of informants or assets down the road . In general, its a very important source for the fbi. The fbi has lots of informants who give them very valuable
information. And when they do so, they are assured of confidentiality. Their identity is going to be protected. And so this informant is i believe is at risk right now and of course i would guess this will have a Chilling Effect on other informants who already work with the fbi and certainly make it more difficult for the fbi to recruit other informants. In the new book facts you talk about the vital role of confidential informants. You say its essential for people working in the Intelligence Community to stay true to the key tenets, serve truth to power even if the power doesnt listen to the truth. How can they do that if the power doesnt listen to the truth . Well, they have to keep the metaphor ive often used, the Intelligence Community needs to keep shoveling that intelligence coal down there in the engine room. This places a great burden these days, i believe, on leaders of the Intelligence Community. Notably, for example, now gina haspel, now director of the cia, to provide that top cover for the great men and women throughout the Intelligence Committee to continue to generate the facts and the truth to the maximum extent they can. And its very important that the leadership in the Intelligence Community today provide that top cover so they can continue to do that. Director clapper, i appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thanks, anderson. All right. Coming up, a lot more ahead. A new report from the New York Times on a meeting that donald trump jr. Held before the 2016 election with a cast of characters that included an emissary who assured him the princes of saudi arabia and the United Arab Emirates wanted his father to win the election. Details on that ahead. s with hes happy. Your familys finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. And they only take 15 minutes to make. Augh
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member of many meetings with people like jared kushner, steve bannon, michael flynn. These Go On After Trump is in the white house. Then you see his patron, the crown prince of saudi arabia sneaking into the u. S. Even more mysterious, you see the same guy nader turn up in eric prince in the Seychelless At Mohammeds Second Home there for a meeting thats designed to put together eric prince as a representative of the Trump Campaign with a russian businessman close Vladimir Putin and also close to george nader. So whatever happened in that meeting on august 3rd with donald trump jr. , it was the beginning of something. We dont know exactly what, but
something start that had day. Why exactly did saudi arabia and the emirates rant to get trump elected . Is that clear . Well, they didnt like president obamas Foreign Policy in the middle east. They didnt like the iran deal. They didnt like his hands in syria, the approach to the arab spring. To a large extent they thought president Hillary Clinton would be an extension of those policies. They didnt like the things she was doing and saying when she was obamas Secretary Of State and thought trump would be a stronger hand. The outreach through the emissary continued after the election. Yeah, that is important. And i think thats one reason why the special prosecutor, robert mueller, has taken a keen interest in george nader whos now cooperating with that investigation. Just to be clear, its the illegal for foreign governments or individuals to be involve in
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