Discredit and draw attention from him. He kicked off a swing of tweets. Congratulations, america, we are now into the second year of the greatest witch hunt in america p america. And word seems to be coming out that the obama fbi spied on the Trump Campaign with an embedded informant. If so, this is bigger than watergate. He followed up with this one, despite the disgusting, illegal and unwarranted witch hunt, weve had the most successful first 17month administration in u. S. History by far. Sorry to the fake news and media haters, but thats the way it is. Then this, wow word seems to be coming out the obama fbi spied on the Trump Campaign with an embedded inform informant. If so, this is bigger than watergate. He followed up with this one, despite the disgusting, illegal witch hunt, we have had the most Successful Administration in u. S. History so far. Thats not the way it is. Humming economy are nothing to sneeze at. But keeping them honest with sends respect to the investigation, the president is asking people to forgive that this probe, this illegal probe as he calls it would be done on the authorization of his own Deputy Attorney general rod rosenstein. The president is asking people to ignore the broad scope that rosenstein gave Robert Mueller to do his work. Additionally the president is asking us to believe this is a witch hunt but its only a witch hunt if you dont find any witches and they have here. In just a year, the special counsel charged 19 people, three companies a former white house adviser. Three Trump Campaign aids including the Campaign Chair at the time. A Prominent Russian oligarch. Including Michael Flynn and rick gates, theyre cooperating with the special counsel. So the president wants us to set that aside and set aside the oneword answer his own fbi director just yesterday gave to the Senate Judiciary committee. Are you said at your confirmation hearing that the russia investigation was not a witch hunt. Now ten month here, far more immersed in the details of the fbi, is that still your penalties . Opinion . Yes. So ignore that. Set aside the fact that long before the special counsel got to work, the fbi was investigating russian penetration of the 2016 campaign in general and members of the Trump Campaign specifically. According to New York Times blockbuster report on the or begins of the fbi probe, a government informant did meet with carter page. Page was already suspected of being a russian agent the same informant according to times med met with george pap top las. Papadopoulos. To hear the president and spokes people spin it when it seems to be basic bread and butter investigating is the campaign espionage not seen since water. The president s new attorney, Rudy Giuliani, for one says he is shocked. I am shocked to hear they put a spy in the campaign of a major party candidate. Maybe two spies. Now im going through my brain. You know i was a big part of that campaign trying to figure out who was the spy. Now im wondering, is it this person, that person. Now, if there is a spy, they got nothing from it. A short time later the president tweeted wow. Then later his White House Press secretary put out her own deeply concerned gloss on it. Reporter does President Trump believe that the fbi had a spy at one point inside his campaign . I havent spoken with him directly about that but certainly seen seen the reports and if there is any truth to that, it should certainly be looked into. Again there are no mentions in the actual story of a spy inside the campaign. None. Somehow it became a fox friends talking point and a president ial tweet and something the white house believes should be looked into, which you will remember is how the devon nunez shenanigan played out last year. He rushed to the white house to brief the president on shocking information he learned about, he learned from inside the white house, itself. That is the cycle. Yet as it plays out, Robert Mueller is going about his work. Michael kaput to was interviewed by the mueller team the focus is squarely on the one thing the president had most adamantly denied, collusion. Donald trump jr. Wanted the dirt. After the meeting was over what he was most disappointed about is they didnt offer more. So his father apparently sees collusion like a vampire cease garlic. His sons see it as catnip to a new tabby. The president s new lawyers say even if it did happen, so what . Thats what you do. Maybe you shouldnt, you do it. Nothing illegal about that. David, if it comes from a russian or a german or an american, it doesnt matter. Rudy guiliani made more news late today. He told the pbs news hour the special counsels team communicated last night with the president s lawyers, he says theyre narrowing down questions for him. Whether that agrees whether the president agrees to be questioned. He says it looks more hopeful than a day or so. Than a day or so ago. Our Gloria Borger has more on that. First her report, our best inside look at the investigation, itself. Reporter experiencing team mueller up close is no walk in the park. Its intense. You know, first of all they ask to pick you up at a near hotel because they want to sneak you in the back door. Thats the way they want to drop you off when theyre done. Its a friendly environment. Theyre professional. I wouldnt call them polite. Reporter but they are well informed. They know more about the Trump Campaign than any Single Person thats worked there. Thats because they have everybodys documents the Mueller Investigation than anybody who does. Anybody that sits with them needs to be mindful of that. Reporter especially the president and his revolving team of lawyers are well aware. What would trump risk if he were to testify in front of bob mueller . Untruthfulness and the possible charge of lying to a federal investigator. At the end of the day is it a perjury trap or not . From my perspective, the president shouldnt go anywhere near this group. Reporter the tangled tale of russian interference may have started in a london bar in the spring of 20 ken when George Papadopoulos a young promoter named to the trump team told moscow had dirt on clinton. Papadopoulos was the coffee boy. He was and always will be. Reporter now after pleading guilty to lying to the fbi as are at least three others. When the fbi walks in the room, theyre not asking you questions half the time because they want to know the answer. Theyre asking questions because they want to see what you will say. Did you meet with john doe last week, no . Well, they got your email. You did. Now they know, a, you are not telling the truth. B, they know they have a hammer on you. You just lied to a federal officer. Reporter other person under the hammer for lying, deputy Campaign Chairman rick gates who did business with the russians and worked with Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort both before and during the election. Manafort could still be under investigation for colluding with russians and has pled not guilty to charges of Money Laundering and conspiracy. Todays announcement has nothing to do with the president , has nothing to do with the president s campaign or campaign activity. Reporter the white house also separated itself from its former National Security adviser Michael Flynn. The next president of the United States. Right here. Reporter now cooperating with mueller, after lying to the fbi and the Vice President about his russian contacts. And, yet, the president intervened on flynns behalf. He said he hopes i can let it go. When he said that, you thought hes asking me to drop the criminal investigation of his now former National Security adviser. I think the first sign of obstruction was the president asking for loyalty followed on the heels of that by clearing the oval office and asking comey to let the Flynn Investigation go. Reporter the most startling twist in the russia saga came last summer when donald trump jr. Confirmed a 2016 trump tower meeting with russians peddling dirt on Hillary Clinton. His email, i love it. But he claimed the focus of the meeting, which also included manafort and president ial soninlaw Jared Kushner was not about Russian Coordination but about russian adoption. A bust he denies telling his father about. It was literally a wasted 20 minutes, which is a shame. Just as head scratching is the president s personal involvement aboard air force one composition a misleading statement about the trump tower meeting purpose. Could that potentially be obstruction as well . As an act in and of itself, i dont think its obstruction of justice. But i think obstruction of justice from muellers standpoint is going to be a mosaic of activity. Reporter its a piece of the puzzle. A piece of the puzzle. A big jigsaw with a trove of characters, the russians, 13 trolling americans on social media. Political trickster roger stone. Longtime friend of the president who denies coordinating with wikileaks. Wikileaks founder julian assange, who distributed the Democratic National committees emails hacked by the russians. Campaign aid carter page, his frequent trips to moscow, raising eyebrows and trump lawyer Michael Cohen who pushed a never built trump tower moscow during the election and who was recently raided by the fbi. The trump family is not immune either. Soninlaw Jared Kushner who saw the back channel with russians and then omitted those contacts on disclosure forms. And yet, after one year, while the president runs on and on its a total witch hunt. I have been saying it for a long time. Reporter mueller runs silent and runs deep. We are piloting the titanic. We have seen the tip of an iceberg. We have no idea what lies beneath the surface. Reporter so whats ahead . A mueller firing . Or a Supreme Court battle over president ial testimony . One thing not on the table, according to Rudy Guiliani, a president ial indictment. Which could leave it all with a report from mueller for the Justice Department and congress to consider. And then they decide just what to do with it. I think the American People will be frustrated in the end, because theyre going to expect that hes going to sit in front of the cameras or issue 100 pages and give them like a story. He has to submit a confidential report. My expectation is mueller would like to submit that report in confidence, turn out the lights and go home and leave it to others to figure out what to do with his findings. And Rudy Guiliani has been all over the media the last self several days. He spoke with politico about prepping the president for a possible encounter with team mueller. The sessions, he said, would be held in off hours in the white house, perhaps even over golf games. You know, gloria, you have seen these reports from pbs and elsewhere, quoting Rudy Guiliani now saying of the president it would be going too far to say hes going to sit down but it looks more hopeful than it did a day or so ago. Is this consistent with what you are hearing from your sources . Well, i spoke with one this this evening who said, look, there have been a series of communications between the Trump Legal Team and the special counsel about this question whether trump should testify, will testify. And color me skeptical. Color my source skeptical, about whether in the end, theyre going to reach some kind of aan agreement. But its very clear from watching Rudy Guiliani over the last few days that whats important to the president is what what Rudy Guiliani is doing. What he is doing is making it appear the president is very willing to testify. Is trying to reach an agreement with the special counsel to do so. So that if in the end he ends up not testifying, they look like they have made a good faith effort and the president can then place the blame elsewhere rather than on himself. This is very interesting, jeffrey toobin, make it appear as if the president wants to sit down. Make it look like these are good faith negotiations. Theyre increasingly every day that passes it seems to 93 this show, the Rudy Guiliani show is an entity itself. Its not a means to an end. Hes not there creating an outcome with Robert Mueller. He is there to create this show which is a part of the larger political argument. Right. What the president said he wants better tv lawyers. Now he has a good lawyer who is making two points, one as gloria is saying, the president really wants to testify. We dont know for a fact. He says he wants. He wants us to think. The other point he is making is this is a terrible and unfair investigation. This fantasy. This absurdity that the fbi planted a spy in the Trump Campaign. Not said in the New York Times article. Not true. But you know it gets into the fox biosphere and repeated and it becomes something to talk about. So, all of that leads to putting the Mueller Investigation on the defensive that they have something to defend themselves about rather than the president deciding whether he wants to testify. Im glad we have you here on one specific point as jeffrey alluded to, the president in one of the statements today said this is bigger than watergate. What he was talking about is the investigation, itself. The investigation, itself, is so scandalous its bigger than watergate. It happens you know something about watergate. I was wondering what your take is. Watergate was about a criminal president Richard Nixon who conducted a criminal office from the day he started until he left. One element not in this terrific setup we saw. That is the success donald trump is having in getting people in this country. Not just his base. You look at the poll, 75, 80 of people who call themselves republicans who believe this is a witch hunt. And those numbers are going up. Not down. Even as mueller makes more and more invisible progress even as we see a staggering body of everyday that suggests, doesnt prove, but suggests collusion and we saw how enthusiastic the president s son was about colluding with the russians to get information and yet we are finding that the conduct of the investigators, the conduct of the press, the conduct of the democrats, the conduct of Hillary Clinton for tens of millions of americans has been made the issue by donald trump and they have bought into it. I think we need to acknowledge, hes having remarkable success there. Remarkable success, david gergen, even for people who do not believe this is a rich hunt, there is no question that this white house and its allies are driving the daily story at this point on the russian investigation. Part of the reason is because the special counsels team doesnt leak. They dont talk at all. We dont see what theyre doing on a minute by minute let alone a month by month basis we didnt and Rudy Giuliani says no indictment on this and then for the next 30 hours, its all j. And the other side is kept silent because that is the professionalism that mueller is displaying and there are very few democrats who have been very effective at speaking up on that side and to defend mueller. I think muellers run an extraordinarily professional operation. There havent been anymore ni leaks but the results of having no leaks are all the propaganda pop up on the other side. 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