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CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 May 10, 2018

New details about what exactly Michael Cohen was selling when he was taking in all of this money. It was in a few words, access to the president and new reporting about at t, one of the Companies Giving cohen money and their cooperation we are now learning with Robert Muellers investigation. We have all of that. And still a lot, i mean a lot of questions. How could it be that Michael Cohen in addition to being mediocre in keeping porn stars from talking. These companies hired him as a consultant for his expertise. The press corps trying to get answers today. Here is how that went. As you know, due to the complications of the deferent components of this investigation, i would refer you to outside counsel to address those concerns. Do you know if mr. Cohen ever approached the white house, whether the president was ever aware of the payments or aware that mr. Cohen was marketing himself. I am not aware. I would refer you to outside counsel. Does the president think it was appropriate. I am purposely as is our team, we are not engaging in matters of this process. I would refer you to outside counsel that has nothing to do with Michael Cohen. Dont you think the public has right to get answers to these questions. Russian individuals connected with the kremlin, through a Shell Company that is controlled by mr. Cohen to pay off whoever. I mean, doesnt the American People have a right to have some information about that . I think there are appropriate venues and channels to do that. And i encourage you to do exactly what you outlined. We have taken Sarah Sanders encouragement and thank you for. Jay sekulow we are told is unavailable. Jim acosta joins us. Answers from the white house not easy to come by. Reporter thats right and the technical term is stone walling. The same answers that basically she is not in the position to answer these questions that are really designed for and aimed at the president s outside legal time. I asked her in the briefing today, can we get the outside legal team into the Briefing Room to get answers and she said she would attempt to make that request. I did talk to Michael Cohen, his arch nemesis, make cha michae avenatti. The president does have a new member of the team inside the white house, emmett flood. Sarah sanders said Rudy Giuliani would not appear. The stone walling is not working. I mean, one possibility is they are refusing to answer more questions because so much of the questions have to do with the president s legal matters. Or refusing to answer questions because they dont want to. Reporter i think that is exactly right. The questions that are being asked about Michael Cohen and the potential of selling access to the president. Is not just swamp like behavior when the president promised to drain the swamp. This is the creature from the black lagoon, swamp on steroid. And it gets to the heart of the campaign promise. He promised to drain the swamp and if his lawyer is out there soliciting offers to major corporations and perhaps a Company Connected to the russians to somehow influence president , that is something the American People need to get to the bottom of. My guess is that at some point, around Sarah Sanders is going to have to bring somebody into the Briefing Room and she is at this point, going to give us the same answer over and over again until we stop asking which of course we are not going to do. Jim acosta doing your job. We are getting new cnn report c ing about how Michael Cohen pitched himself. Could present new headaches for a man already under investigation. Sara murray reports. Reporter it went Something Like this, i dont know who has been representing you, but you should fire them all. Im the guy you should hire. I am closest to the president. Im his personal lawyer. But some of those business deals, could cause headache for cohen. Potential investments in real estate and other ventures. Has ties to russian ol gark, Viktor Vekselberg. In a statement to cnn, the general counsel of Columbus Nova insist the Russian Oligarch has no control over the company. 100 owned by americans. Any suggestion that Viktor Vekselberg or any of his companies owned Columbus Nova is absolutely wrong. For what they call legal advice on the Cost Accounting standard regulation. But remains unclear what that means. At t which is trying to buy cnn Apparent Company time warner paid cohen at least 200,000 and said he was hired to provide insight into understanding the new administration. And novartis said they realized cohen could not provide them. The Company Still paid company hen 1 million over the course of the year. And provided all information requested. This guy is a lawyer, a real estate agent, an accountant, a doctor. This guy is a multitalented guy. He is the leonardo da vinchi of our time. Who knew. One company that paid company hen was at t. Confirmed they made him for insights into understanding the new administration. Insights into understanding the new administration. At t is trying to acquire cnn Parent Company time warner. The Justice Department sued to prevent the merger. Tonight we are learning that Robert Muellers office was also interested in getting information. Brian, when did the special counsel contact at t . Six months ago. But mueller knew about these payments six months ago. And aware of the payments of novartis. Randall stevenson met with trump at trump tower during the transition. We dont know exactly how they were put in touch. At t says that cohen and stevenson never met. O one unanswered question is whether trump recommended go give my lawyer a call. No word on whether that happened or not. His personal lawyer. Right. Who as far as we know has never represented him in any type of telecommunication. The statement here says when we were contacted by the special counsel office, we contacted Michael Cohen. We cooperated fully, providing all information requested in november and december of 2017. A few weeks later our controlling contract with cohen expired at the end of the year Big Multinational Companies have to hire lobby firms and consultants. It is true and a couple of months at and t may own this channel. This doesnt look good. Even if it is completely innocent. We know cohen may get indicted soon. When you play with someone dirty, some dirt may get on to your own hands. Insight information. A lot of questions about what Michael Cohen provided beyond insight information. And that is something the special counsel will have to look into. Brian stet ser, thank you. Gloria borger, what are you learning . Michael cohens lawyers are filing in court trying to block avenatti from representing Stormy Daniels in a new york courtroom. And what they are saying is that he used false information and he disseminated and he used got bank records that were gotten in a very strange way which they believe to be illegal. And they are saying as a result of this, avenatti should not be allowed to practice in new york state in the court. They are not saying get rid of the Stormy Daniels case. They are saying he published information that was either inaccurate or that were Michael Cohens bank records and they believe those records may have been gotten illegally. So they are firing a cannon. The actual disputed things are like pin pricks. The pin pricks that you are talking about is that avenatti got some wrong Michael Cohens. Referring to a guy in tanzania. Someone in israel who is not the correct Michael Cohen. But as for the larger issues, there is no definial of the this you and brian were talking about. And also on the russia ishshaw, what they do is they dont address it directly. What they do is quote, from Columbus Nova, the company that may have links to the Russian Oligarch and they quote their statement saying they are 100 american and they have absolutely no links to the Russian Oligarch but they do not state that themselves. They state the companys statement. And nor do they denied that Columbus Nova paid Michael Cohen which is a key ingredient. Avenatti writes mr. Ryan submission is baseless and improper and sanctionable. They fail to address let alone contradict 99 of the statements in what we released. What do you make of that . Well, what avenatti is saying, is that the largest issue is obviously the ties to russia. And he is saying they concede this and they would argue his lawyers would argue, absolutely not. We are not conceding it. What we are doing is quoting from the company here. And they are, you know, they are saying that their client, Michael Cohen did Strategic Consulting for this company and that it had nothing to do with russians. You know, again, this is now. Takes this to another level. They are going to be brawling in court over this. And you know Michael Avenatti, he does not back down. But steven ryan, who is Michael Cohens attorney i think here is ready for a fight over this. Because they believe as they say in this that the actual bank records, they have no reason to believe that mr. Avenatti is in lawful possession of Michael Cohens bank records and that is going to come up in court. How did avenatti get these bank records. And he has given no direct answer. You have a lot of sources both in the president s legal team and Michael Cohens world. And in light of all of this, what are you hearing from both camps. I think Michael Cohen is having a rough time here. I think there are a lot of people in Michael Cohens world and in the world of donald trump i should say who believe that Michael Cohen with these lobbying clients over stated his contacts with the president once donald trump left trump tower and left the transition and went into the white house. So, you know, i had a source telling me today that Michael Cohen never talked to the president about substance. Once he got into the white house. And yes, when Michael Cohen worked for him sure. But lots of questions about how Michael Cohen was representing himself to these clients as somebody who could get to the president and knew things and in fact, that is what novartis said. We wanted him to advise us on health care. Because of the nature of the contract we had to continue to paying him 100,000 a month until the contract was over. One meeting and decided it wasnt going to work out and still paid him. Nice work if you can get it. 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You know, depending, we are at the beginning of this, just seeing the tip of the iceberg with the money that poured into cohen. No evident qualifications for any of these contracts. What did he promise people . Some of these allegedly has in the transition, he was feet away from donald trump. What conversations did they have about future government business and john, it is not an isolated Michael Cohen problem. This is a systemic crisis of corruption. And yes, this exists in every administration, and every party. But the trump gang has taken it to a new level. It starts with the president. He is taking Foreign Government cash openly. I have a lawsuit against him. The judges said we have standing on that. We are going to get into that. And it goes in like a cancer throughout the cabinet. It is what ties together the pruitt scandal. Price, devos, ross, i mean it is like the meeting of a mob gang. And where is the congressional oversight . Nowhere and you know who gets hurt, the American People who cant pay millions of dollars to get access to the administration. It is outrageous. On the subject specifically of Michael Cohen and the ambassador raised a good question, what is Michael Cohen an expert in . I suppose you could say he is an expert on donald trump and that is what they were paying for and you have to squint just the right way. But if all the information flowed it wouldnt necessarily be illegal. There are questions and i dont think we have the answers yet. Was he representing a Foreign Government to lobby or get meetings. We dont know was the meeting already planned. And is Columbus Nova, is that a different legal matter . We dont know. Because we dont understand why Columbus Nova was paying. I agree with the ambassador, this is a terrible that has going on for years. We know what they were doing. They were forthright about it. What we dont know is what Columbus Nova is doing. And what makes us all wonder what was happen was the ties to the Russian Oligarch put on the list. Not allowed to enter the country because of this interference. What did this company with ties to the Russian Oligarch get for this. Again, it stretches the imagination. And ambassador one last question. We have seen the swamp before and you can argue whether this is a swampier swamp or not. But the fact that Michael Cohen is selling his access accord

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