Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20180308 05:00:00 :

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20180308 05:00:00

Relationship with mr. Trump in the summer of 2006 in lake tahoe, the lawsuit claims, and that in october 2016, mr. Trump, with the assistance of his attorney, mr. Cohen, aggressively sought to silence ms. Clifford as part of an effort to avoid her telling the truth, thus helping to ensure he won the president ial election. In exchange, trumps Attorney Michael Cohen Wired Daniels 130,000 and the arrangement has so far prohibited daniels from giving any details, leading to a series of bizarre talk show appearances like this. Did you have a sexual relationship with donald trump . Reporter cliffords lawyer included this Hush Agreement in the lawsuit, saying it was written by Michael Cohen. It refers to donald trump under an alias, david denison, and clifford under the name peggy peterson. According to the Hush Agreement, Stephanie Clifford came into possession of certain confidential information pertaining to dd, trumps alias, which includes information certain still images and or Text Messages. Michael cohen goes on to write, included in those are images donald trump previously presented to his counsel to exist. I. E. , Text Messages between p. P. And d. D. In other words, trump told his personal attorney about communications he was having with a porn actress. You cant say whether you have a nondisclosure agreement. But if you didnt have a nondisclosure agreement, you most certainly could say, i dont have a nondisclosure agreement. Yes . Youre so smart, jimmy. Thank you very much. Reporter also new and potentially damning if true is what happened little more than a week ago. The president s attorney tried yet again to silence clifford on or about february 27, 2018. Mr. Trumps attorney, mr. Cohen, surreptitiously initiated a shut her up. How has he attempted to do that . Well, hes actually, anderson, attempted to do that by means of a number of steps, including filing this Bogus Arbitration against her, communicating through her prior counsel, making threats to her relating to what may happen to her from a legal perspective in the event she does not deny allegations of the affair, et cetera. How recent have these threats, in your words, been . These threats continued until in fact, only a few hours ago when mr. Rosen, lawrence rosen, the attorney who now purports to represent mr. Cohen and the entity e. C. , llc, sent email correspondence to me threatening that if ms. Daniels continues to talk, she may be subjected to significant additional damages. I want to ask you about this arbitration. You say the that back, i order. And quite honestly, the entire process is absolutely untoward and improper. And to make matters worse, e. C. , pursuant to the agreement which, of course, we allege is invalid, e. C. Pursuant to that agreement, section 5. 1. 1, doesnt even have the ability to go in and obtain such a Restraining Order. That would have to be accomplished by way of d. D. , otherwise known as President Trump. So, e. C. Didnt even have standing to pursue this, which is which is why we find the statement by ms. Sanders and im sure that ms. Sanders was not told the truth before she stood at the podium today and made the representation that she did, but we find her statement that President Trump has already, quote, won, close quote, this arbitration to be absolutely bogus and baseless. But if they were able to get a temporary Restraining Order, wouldnt that indicate that they had won that round of arbitration . Well, who is they . According to mr. Cohen, this was pursued on behalf of e. C. , not d. D. Or President Trump. And if there is one thing we know of the last four to six weeks, its that mr. Cohen and others close to the Trump Administration have made it clear that e. C. Is not President Trump. Your client did agree to arbitration at the time she signed the agreement, didnt she . She agreed to arbitration, but that agreement fell by the wayside when a party to that agreement, namely, mr. Trump at the time, did not sign it. That agreement is null and void. It doesnt mean anything. Can you tell us about this arbitration . Can you tell us who appeared on Michael Cohens behalf youre saying nobody appeared on the president s behalf because this wasnt technically this was just the llc bringing up the arbitration . Thats correct. Thats to the best of our knowledge. I mean, anderson, at this point, you know about as much about this arbitration as we do because nobody bothered to tell us about it before it happened. Nobody bothered to invite my client to the party, if you will, which makes the issuance of this order even that much more curious, that it happened within a matter of hours. All in an effort and i want to be really clear about this all in an effort to keep this matter under wraps, keep it out of public view, hide the facts, and silence my client. Theres a pattern and practice that has gofrverned the way my client has been dealt with by mr. Cohen and President Trump for months. And that pattern and practice, anderson, has continued up until even a few hours ago. An attorney for Michael Cohen put out a statement a short while ago today saying, quote, the designated judge from the Arbitration Tribunal found ms. Clifford had violated the agreement and enjoined her from among other things filing this lawsuit. Have you gotten a ruling have you seen this judges ruling . Weve seen the temporary Restraining Order that was earn youd within hours of the filing. I dont know of any hearing that took place. I dont know of any findings that took place. And, again, our position is we dont even belong in arbitration. This matter belongs in a court of law, a public court of law. A court of law owned by the people and open to the public. Thats why we filed the matter in a court of law yesterday. We do not belong in arbitration and were not going to proceed in arbitration. You are also alleging mr. Cohen forced ms. Clifford to sign a false statement saying reports of her relationship with mr. Trump are false. How did he force her . Do you have any evidence of that documentation of any sort . There were significant threats made directed at ms. Daniels, ms. Clifford, that if she did not sign, that various things would happen to her. And i think legally speaking . Legally speaking, correct. When and if she provides statement publicly about this entire matter, i think when the truth is known, The General Public will likewise conclude that she felt like she had no choice but to go along with the demands of Attorney Cohen. Does it put her credibility, though, in question in some peoples eyes . Just a few weeks ago she was saying, look, this never happened. Now she says it did. Well, i think of course it puts her credibility at issue and raises questions about it. I would be absurd for me to claim otherwise. But i think once she actually gives her statement and sits down for an interview and hopefully she will have that opportunity, our position is that we want to give her an opportunity to make her statement, to tell about what happened and then were going to let the American Public decide for their own on their own who is telling the truth and who is pulling the wool over their eyes. Its really that simple. In a moment well have the rest of our conversation including his answer to the question, why not speak out fully right now. Later, there is breaking news that could spell yet more russia trouble for President Trump. New reporting that Special Counsel Mueller has learned the president has asked key witnesses about what they discussed with investigators. 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Also about the agreement she signed, the payment she got from Attorney Cohen, and the lawsuit shes filed now to overturn the nondisclosure agreement. Before the break i asked daniels attorney why maintain silence on this at all any more. If the agreement is void, why not violate it . You have nothing to worry about if its not a real contract. Why bother going to court at all . In light of the constant threats by mr. Cohen and others, my client is concerned and wants a court of law to adjudicate that in fact she is free from the agreement. I mean, weve already heard threats of a Million Dollars per incident, per instance where, if my client were to come forward and talk about what happened and Tell The Truth about what happened, regardless, by the way, they want to ding her for a Million Dollars whether she tells the truth or doesnt Tell The Truth. Just the mere fact that she speaks in their mind entitles them to a Million Dollars in each instance. That is one significant threat to say the least. And by the way, we think that is unconscionable and another reason why the agreement would have to be thrown out. The mere suggestion of that is absurd. The lawsuit claims, quote, its strange credibility to conclude mr. Cohen is acting on his own accord without the express approval or knowledge of his client mr. Trump. Are you referring specifically to the arbitration or cohens actions at large . Anderson, im referring we are referring to it all. The suggestion that you would have an experienced, educated attorney like mr. Cohen who would run off halfcocked without any knowledge of his client that he would negotiate and draft a detailed agreement that included his client as a party, that he would engage in weeks of negotiation, that he would reach agreement, that he would then send 130,000 in connection with that agreement, that he would then later institute an Arbitration Proceeding without knowledge of his client, all of this to those of us that practice under the law as attorneys, its ludicrous. Isnt it unethical . Absolutely. We have an ethical obligation to inform our clients at all times of all material facts. Its one of the basic tenets of what we do. And the idea that somehow President Trump didnt know anything about this and that Attorney Cohen was just running off and doing what he thought was best without any consultation with President Trump, it is patently absurd. You do acknowledge, though n your lawsuit, quote, the extent of mr. Trumps involvement in these efforts is presently unknown. You dont have actual evidence. This is just a supposition on your part based on, frankly, ethics and common sense. Well, heres what i will say. We are not going to disclose at this point all of the facts in evidence that we have substantiating the allegations in the complaint, nor would we have set that all forward in the complaint. I mean, that just wouldnt be smart. But we certainly have more facts in evidence to support the allegation or allegations, i should say, than what has already been disclosed. I mean, also keep in mind the timing of this. Were not talking about an agreement that was entered into at some point in time where nothing significant was transpiring in mr. Trumps life. Were talking about an agreement that was being negotiated and entered into in the waning days of the 2016 president ial election. An election that at the time was very close, an election at the time where anything could happen and the slightest miss step could cause a candidate to lose the presidency of the United States. And yet mr. Cohen expects the American People to believe that he was running off on his own and entering into this without any consultation with the candidate for the president of the United States . Mr. Trump . Its not believable. It doesnt make sense. Do you view the money that ms. Daniels received as Campaign Contribution regardless of who the money came from, do you view it as a campaign contribute sngs anderson, we dont view it one way or the other. I think individuals that are far more qualified and educated on those laws and regulation s are ultimately going to opine on that. Ultimately, if they conclude that in fact it was, katie, bar the door. I dont know where that ends, but if in fact that is the conclusion, i think that President Trump and the white house could certainly have significant problems. But again, thats not thats not for us to opine on n. Is katie bar the door a legal term . No, its a southern term. Can you explain just in Nonleg Nonlegalees what ms. Clifford wants . Most people dont know what a Declaratory Judgment is. Does she want money, freedom to tell her story to other media outlets, is that what this is about . This is about Freedom Of Speech at this point, anderson. Theres been a significant amount of misinformation that has been disseminated over the last six weeks. And remarkably, a lot of it has been at the hands of Attorney Cohen, mr. Cohen. My client wants an opportunity to tell her story, to Tell The Truth about what happened and what didnt happen, to Tell The Truth about the events not only relating to her relationship with the president , but also the conduct and what shes witnessed the last 12 to 18 months as it relates to efforts to silence her. She wants an opportunity to set the record straight. Ultimately, she wants the opportunity for the American People to pass judgment as to who is telling the truth. Is it her, or is it mr. Cohen . Is it her, or is it President Trump . Is it her, or is it ms. Sanders . Thats what my client wants. And thats what were going to fight for. Our chief legal analyst jeffrey tubin said the contract reads to him like a form that maybe has been used before. Does it seem that way to you . Are you aware of any other women who signed similar contracts with President Trump . Were not aware of any other women. But let me just say this. In my experience, the way that this was handled and the documentation, quite honestly, this was amateur hour, anderson. This is very, very sloppy. Its very, very messy. It is shocking, quite honestly, that something of this magnitude was handled in this way in the waning days of the 2016 president ial election. I have what is sloppy about it . I have a lot of respect for mr. Cohen. I think hes a good attorney in a lot of ways. I dont know the exact circumstances of what happened here, but this is not how something of this importance should have been handled, in my opinion. And just to be clear, ms. Clifford is not accusing President Trump of any Sexual Misconduct . That is correct. And in terms finally, where does this go from here procedurally . How long does the president s legal team have to respond . Do you have any sense of what the time frame is . Well, the defendants in the case have approximately 30 days to respond in court. Hopefully we can expedite that. Hopefully theyll expedite it. Its no sense in dragging this out. Again, i think its pretty simple. Did the president know about the negotiation, the terms, the payment of the money or not . Did he sign the agreement . I mean, this doesnt have to be a prolonged process. We should get right to it michael, appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Thank you, anderson. Certainly a lot to talk about there. In just a moment well have some of the finest legal and political minds in the business weigh in on a story of adult film star and the president. Me higher higher parents arent perfect, but then they make us Kraft Mac Cheese and everythings good again. Im babysitting. Thatll be 50 bucks. You said 30 dollars. Yeah, well it was 30 before my fees, like the pizzaordering fee and the dogsitting fee. And the rummage through your closet fee. Are those my heels . Yeah yeah, were the same size in shoes. 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