To be cleared. Other lawyers involved in this investigation are much more skeptical saying theres little indication saying mueller is wrapping up his work. A key Tipping Point of all of this could be this week. Thats when mueller and his team is supposed to sit down with the president s lawyers and the lawyers want to get a sense of where is the investigation going. Is there anything else we need to close this . The concern is if the meeting doesnt go the way the president wants, there could be problems. Thats the rub. What if the president doesnt get what he wants . Is there concern he might be frustrated with the outcome. Absolutely. He might be more frustrated than he was initially because he hoped to be exonerated and the deadline has shifted a number of times and maybe shifted again. One person familiar with the conversations predicted the president could have a meltdown, he could do something rash, he might try to fire mueller or others overseeing the investigation. It was not too long ago, just yesterday, the president insisted that was not a consideration. But weve seen his political advisors out there taking a much sharper tone about the investigation, that could be a signal of what to come. Its his legal team, tie cob, his lawyer inside the white house that says he thinks this investigation could be wrapping you. Thats right. And there are other lawyers on the president s legal team, they seemed to have convinced the president that things are wrapping up. That he doesnt have anything to worry about. Its worth noting he hasnt known ty cobb that long, but theyve struck up a rapport and the president does trust him and his assessment of the situation. Thats why you see him talking to his friends and allies about being cleared in the investigation and being cleared in writing. Which is extremely unusual, especially ifgs[bp roy moobert decided to close the investigation. Thank you sara. Lets get more from david axle rod and david gergen. David gergen, the fact that President Trump thinks the bg special counsel, roy moore rob is going to write a paper exonerating him, is that how these things work . Not ordinarily. Were talking about a president here. So if, in fact, mueller does exonerate him, i think the president would be entitled to ask for a letter, something that would clear his name. But i think its premature to go too far down the path. I dont know what the white house possibly knows that the president is headed for exoneration, this is all about to come to an end. We may hear a different stories after the white house lawyers go see mr. Mueller later this week. May be legally premature and people around the president might be setting these expectations that hell be cleared of all wrong doing, especially given when he gets disappointed when he know how he acts. I think one of the questions is, are they managing the president or are they imparting are they imparting facts to him. You know right after the indictment of flynn, and this was true after the Manafort Indictment as well, he he loses control in those periods and becomes very, very angry. We know that and he lashes out. And so my sense is that the lawyers are trying as much to manage the president as they are to manage events. But at some point, you know, the rubber hits the road. If they come back from the if they come back from the counsels office with bad news, who knows how the president will react. The other issue here is if they are about the business of raising expectations that theres going to be some letter of exoneration and it isnt forthcoming, does it add to the drum beat that we see on the right just hammering mueller and the investigation as politically motivated. Managing the president , rather than informing him in some case, whold whose job should it be within the white house . His lawyers to steer him back to reality . I think its a combination of his lawyers and the chief of staff, john kelly, the chief of staff is the single most important advisor for the president. Has to deliver the bad news as well as the good news. Theres one thing inconsistent, though. If they have any confidence that the president is going to be exonerated. I think they would call off the attacks by fox and some of the allies of the white house which discredited mueller if they think theyre going to get away from all of this with a letter of exoneration, it seems theyd call the dogs off. It gets to the issue the president c is the most importa person in how he deals with this message that he is delivering. If he believes that he did nothing wrong, you know, whos to tell him otherwise . Well, no. I think thats thats a real a real problem. You know, one thing that seems very clear is theres an impe tous and it comes from the president to try and shut all of this down. We know hes talked to members of congress about it, youve seen the growing momentum on the republican side, at least in the house, to try and shut this investigation down. He wants to get this behind him. I suspect the republicans would love to get it behind him as well because this is not an issue they want hanging over the 2018 e election. I want to ask you about the president S National Security speech dd je9n he not only tried to define what the administration will do in the future but did back looking as well where he criticized the foreign policies of the past administrations. He went after the george w. And obama administration. I must say, the president is entitled to crow some about the economy. He inherited a good, growing economy, but things happened and donald trump made that a feature of his speech today. Speech about Foreign Policy itself had echos of i naug recall address. He named china as the rivals were competing against, we have to do this and that because theyre coming at us, they have the discipline, we have to pull ourselves together. Thats a far cry from the more positive how do we partner with the world, work with others to really make a difference on climate, for example. No mention of climate in this. So;1wthe speech in that sense i consistent with what trump has been thinking and saying, but i think its going to i dont think its going to be well greeted in foreign capitols. Theres one line that jumped out, im curious about yourzun take, he said a nation thats not proud of its history cannot be confident in its future. Now some people are looking at this as some kind of reference of what republicans call president obamas apology tour or maybe hes talking about confederate statues and the discussion there. How did you see that line . I think the first is probably what he was referencing. But a strong confident nation also acknowledges past mistakes. President obama and obviously i worked with him, i think felt strongly about americas leadership roll in the world and that america was a guarantor of stability in the world and a guarantor of the stability of global institutions. David gergen, David Axlerod great to have you with us. Thanks, gentlemen. Break news about the possibly time line of the Mueller Investigation. The president expecting to wrap this up soon but new reporting from the Washington Post says not even close. The latest on the deadly Train Derailment in Washington State. A horrifying site. What we know next. Inking. Even your toaster is thinking. Honey, clive owens in our kitchen. Im leaving. Oh never mind, hes leaving. But what if a business could turn all that thinking. Thinking. Endless thinking into doing . To make better decisions. Make a difference. Make the future. Not next week while you think about it a little more. But right now. 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Youre right. Thanks, bill. No, youre bill. Im tom. You know what . No one cares. Robert mueller and his team have tens of thousands of trump transition emails as part of the russia investigation. The president says he thinks its quote pretty sad he got the emails. Lawyers say they were unlawfully obtained. Muellers Spokesman Says thats not true. As sarah murray has been reporting, the president thinks to be exonerated and soon and the special counsel is going to write him a letter, and again this is going to happen soon. Mueller and his team havent given any indication the investigation is in the final stages and tonight new reporting from the Washington Post, said it could last at least another year. And members of the mueller team much of 2018 at the minimum. Joining me now, jason miller, jen sake, and mark hurtling. Jason miller, to one of the problems sarah murray was reporting on. He thinks the investigation is going to be over soon. He thinks he is getting a letter soon that he is cleared in the investigation, yet the Washington Post reports its going to go on for another year. How much of a problem is that . I dont think its a problem. Because i dont think that President Trump did anything wrong. So whether this goes another couple weeks or another year i dont think thats going to be an issue for him the issue is will he get upset . If it doesnt end soon as apparently his lawyers have told him it will, is that going to set him off . No, i think the American Public is who is going to be upset. Because we have the booming economy and after a year, we have nothing to say the Trump Campaign did anything to include with a Foreign Government in the election. Lets go to the Transition Team emails. I thought the purpose of this was to talk about the campaign colluding with a foreign entity were talking about Transition Team emails. This is well after the campaign. So i think at a certain point here, look, even though i dont think this fundamentally changes anything to do with a broader investigation, but with some of the news weve seen lately with agents being dismissed or folks at the doj, whether it be the gentleman who went to Hillary ClintonsElection Night party or some of the Different Things like that, i think folks want to see the politicizing out of any investigation and after a year if theres nothing that say gs that the campaign or President Trump did anything wrong, lets get moving. We have to go on with the country here. Michael flynn was just convicted of lying, admitted to lying about conversations that happened during the transition. So the transition legal ground for some people here. You brought up transition emails, you were the communication director for the Transition Team. Did you have any expectation of private in your emails. According to the deputy counsel a you and your counsel signed an agreement that said these emails were subject to monitoring and there was no expectation of privacy. I assume anything that goes n into emails is going to be public. Whether or not thats Transition Team or working in the official government or anything else. So ill let the lawyers go and argue on that one. Going back to my initial point, if this was supposedly about the campaign, including with a foreign entity, at a certain point the American Public is realizes this is not what this is about. We dont know because the investigation is still going on. We have yet to hear from Robert Mueller and the team whats going on. Jen, you also worked a transition. Jason miller told us he had no expectation of privacy. Assume you didnt have any expectation of privacy in the campaign you worked on, why make this argument if youre part of the trump Transition Team, is this just politics to muddy the waters . , of course, its politics. I remember our lawyers saying, all of your emails are going to go to a dot gof server. Theyre neither private or privileg privileged. I would guess thats what every team has been told since there was email. There was there was an orchestrated attack to firing mueller. Yes, President Trump said he wasnt going to do that now, one thing weve learned is not to believe what he said, what everybody should be worried about is if he takeszxr steps fire mueller when congress is out of session. Members of Congress Wont be here, the judiciary wont be here. One thing i dont understand is the democrats saying the president is going to fire Robert Mueller. Jackie spear and adam schiff, saying they see signs of it. The president said hes not going to do that. And richard ej bloom um entt. It may be. And thats a fair point. It may be. I dont think were out of the woods in him never firing mueller. So i think we need to be wary of that. But it is certainly possible that he knows that in a year from now, six months from now, whenever theyre done with the investigation, you mentioned the Washington Post reporting that hes going to be in a place where democrats control the house, he may be at risk of impeachment, he needs to get his partners and allies, an argument on his behalf. The president used an interesting phrase there about these transition emails. He said he thinks its sad somehow that the special counsel has now possession of these emails. You were in the military for a long time, you were a Government Employee for a very, very long time. Do you think its sad that these government emails are now in the hands of the special counsel. I dont. I think its sad he and the team didnt understand the rules they were under when they were using these accounts. Jason was right, no matter what kind of account youre on, expect your emails to get out if youre a high level official. But if youre on a dot gov or dot mil, some it guy comes in and says heres what you can expect. You have to ensure that these emails are clean and work related and dont do personal stuff on it. Ill be honest, i was afraid to email my wife on mym machine a times picking up a gallon of milk at work. Its interesting because if stuff, yo understand the ethical and moral requirements. Jqo for using busi emails for business events. When youre in the government or military, you know you have to be professional when dealing with engagements on the net works or in person. So the word sad doesnt apply. It goes into this Organization Called the nara, the National Archive organization, they keep them for months at a time to make sure history is recorded and they can go back specifically to these things. From your lips, general, to anyone who might have a dot gov or dot mill email address what would your message be. 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