Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20171206 : comparem

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20171206

The president feels that he would rather have a person that supports his agenda versus somebody who opposing his agenda every step of the way. And until the rest of that process plays out, you have a choice between two individuals and the president s chosen to support moore. Sarah, several weeks ago it cnn reported part of the reason the president was reluctant to speak out on this is he was worried the conversation would move to his past accusers. Is the president not worried about that anymore . I certainly think the administration that has seen that the conversation has turned to the president s own accusers weve seen the access hollywood from 2005 being talked about again. Oui seen billy bush who was the other party in that tape trying to rehab his image, as well as discussing it. The president has been discussing this tape privately with white house aides. Its clear this story has come back to light. But its interesting, anderson. When you talk to senior officials within this white house, you hear comparisons, them saying, for instance, anyone who preys on children, thats a terrible thing. If these allegations are true, thats a terrible thing. They keep coming back to the bottom line which, as they say, look, we have no way of knowing if these things are true. And as you remember, anderson, President Trump when he was facing these allegations for more than a dozen women himself as a candidate flatly denied them the entire campaign. Sara murray, thanks very much. Gary tuchman is at the rally in alabama. He joins us now. It look like bannons been on stage for 20 minutes now. We were told he was going to bring fire and fury to the stage tonight. What is he saying . It is fire and fury inside the bar in southern alabama. He started off by saying theres nothing like spending a rainy with deplorables. That was the sweetest thing he said. He really lit into people, and he is continuing to light into people. Democrats not surprised, the news media who he calls the opposition party. Not surprising. But then hes really gone after people he calls establishment republicans. Mitch mcconnell, Senate Majority leader, jeff flake, u. S. Arizona senator. But he rereserved his most harsh treatment for mitt romney who ran for president of the United States eight years ago. Mitt romney yesterday tweeted roy moore in the u. S. Senate would be a stain on the gop and the nation. Heres what bannon said about mitt romney. Talk about another confusion, willard mitt romney. Now i want you to understand something. It was willard mitt romneys, comment yesterday, his tweet, whatever it was, that the only reason im going there, mitt, is you started it. Mitt had to go there. All the insults you made about the president , all that backwards. Everythings fine. Youve got to jump in here. What he said yesterday, honor and integrity. Honor that judge moore lacks honor and integrity. Thats why you cant support him, couldnt support him. I did say mitt romney ran eight years ago for president. It was in 2012, which was five years ago. But either way, he did run for president. You heard what he said about romney. It was harsh and continues to go right now. Obviously people come here to see roy moore running for the u. S. Senate here in alabama. Many people wanted to tell us they wanted to see bannon and they wanted to hear him talk like this. He is treating the audience to what he is known for. I will tell you another person, people are talking about, donald trump, the president of the United States who has made his endorsement explicit for moore yesterday. Donald trump will be coming down here, but in a wink and a nod he will be in pensacola, florida. Which is about 17 miles exactly from the border of alabama. And roy moore supporters want their people to come out into florida for that donald trump rally where there is no question about it, roy moore in some way, shape and form will be mentioned. Anderson, back to you. Gary, thanks very much. Roy moore is just taking the stage. You saw at the campaign rally. Well keep an eye on what he has to say. Lots to talk about. Phillip bump, maria cardonas, Scott Jennings and brian fallon. Jason, i want to start with you. I was looking back. You were on the program a couple weeks ago. You said you would urge the president not to endorse roy moore, and that he doesnt have a place in the u. S. Senate. Now that the president has endorsed him, what do you make of that . A couple things going on here. One, this was not the president s first candidate. The president supported Luther Strange in the primary, but now roy moore is the general election candidate. He was embarrassed, i think, reporting that he was embarrassed by backing the wrong candidate. Yeah. I think he got bad advice on that, and strange was not a very good candidate. I think what the president s taking a look here now, especially seeing the revelations coming forward now with al franken and bob menendez continued legal problems that have put a cloud over it. Theres no reason the republicans should go and unilaterally disarm and take one of their seats off the table when its a majority. Infrastructure and all the different things. Im, again, not a fan of roy moore, dont think he has a place in the senate, but i certainly can see the argument for saying why should we go ahead and fight with one hand tied behind our back. Theres a bigger thing going on here as well, and thats the fact that democrats are going to find a way to blow this election. Theyre falling into the same trap they did in 2016, attack, attack, and not define their candidate at all. You havent seen any National Prominent democrats going down to alabama to campaign for doug jones. No one on this panel could tell you anything about jones message and what hes for. Theyre going to follow the same mistake they made last year. Maria, are they doing that . First of all, i think its smart that no democrats are going down to alabama because it is alabama. The fact that all of the polls have shown you all the trouble doug jones ahead i think tells you the trouble roy moore is in. Im not saying doug jones will win, but there is a possibility. The latest poll was within the margin of error, as we saw in the president ial race, there may be a lot of people voting for moore. Absolutely. But another thing could happen, which is, i think, something that we could expect. Given that roy moore has these accusations of alleged child molestation, you have the womens vote, which i think is going to be very much up in the air. We dont know how Many Republican women are going to go up to the booth and say, there is no way i can pull this lever for roy moore. We dont know. Thats a big unknown. I think what is underscored here with donald trump now saying that hes all for roy moore, all of the republicans that before were turning their backs on him and now are saying, okay, well, its up to the people of alabama, your seeing a fleet flipflop of the principles and values of a lot of these republicans who at the beginning were against having a Senate Candidate representing the Republican Party who was accused of child molestation. So i think what youre seeing is that a lot of people are looking at the Republican Party, and Many Republicans have even said this, that they are shamed about that flipflop on the moral values. It seems like the moral values and principles are out the window. It is party before principles. I commend romney, i commend flake. Theyre in the right place. This is the same sort of tribalism we see on all sides. Talking about john conyers as an iconic figure and not addressing the very serious allegations against him. Yeah, in the absence of moral leadership on these issues people revert to their tribes. Thats whats happening in large measure. Although i would point out, i think the race in alabama is very close. This is a race that republicans ought to win by 20 or 25 points. Its going to be decided by a couple of points one way or the other which goes to show you the effects, the political effects of a candidacy like roy moores. He might survive in alabama but you wouldnt survive it in a purple or blue leaning state. What im worrying about for the president on roy moore is, number one, theres no empirical evidence moore will be a solid supporter of the trump agenda. He opposed the Obamacare Repeal plan the president preferred in september. He is backed and sort of created by the liberal trial bar in alabama. He has been for years. I guarantee you the liberal trial bar does not support what the trump agenda is. I think roy moore is a party of one and my prediction is hes going to come back to be a burr under the saddle of the trump agenda at some point. He might be with the president most of the time. There will come a day that roy moore will be a problem. I have been against this moore proposition from the beginning. Its going to ultimately haunt the president. I understand why he did it. I understand why the rnc did what they did. I ultimately think its a brand anvil on the Republican Party. The thing that was striking to me, if you listen to the steve bannon speech, youd think roy moore is running against Mitch Mcconnell, not the democrat in alabama. And i think that the most striking and surprising thing to me is not that youve seen donald trump aligned with roy moore. Donald trump cant surprise me anymore. And it doesnt surprise me that the rnc is lining up with donald trump. They are the political arm of the president. What i was surprised by was Mitch Mcconnells comments on sunday where he seemed to backpedal a little bit and say its up to the people of alabama. This is not a oneoff issue, Mitch Mcconnell is in allout war with steve bannon for the future heart and soul of the Republican Party. And if steve bannon prevails and roy moore wins in this alabama race, hes going to be emboldened. Youre going to see him enter races against other republican incumbents. If i was Mitch Mcconnell, i wouldnt be backtracking at all. Id be drawing a line in the sand and put this idea that steve bannon is some goliath in the Republican Party. Weve heard the media spin cycle about this. Mitch mcconnell did not backtrack at all. He stated a fact. Theres going to be an election in alabama. Mitch mcconnell and a whole bunch of republicans tried everything they could to get the governor of alabama to move this election, to disown roy moore. They wouldnt do it down in alabama. So we are going to have an election. Today mcconnell was very clear, said what he said from the beginning, i suspect if roy moore gets to washington theres going to be an investigation in the Senate Ethics committee. And you know what . If there a silver lining, these women who have accused roy moore in alabama, theyre never going to get a Court Hearing down there, but they might get to tell their story under oath to the Senate Ethics committee. Do you really think thats going to happen . Yes, i do. Everybodys saying once we gets to washington, thats it. Republicans wont do anything about it. Mitch mcconnell said, before we came on the air tonight, i suspect hes going to have a problem with the Ethics Committee. Theyre investigating al franken already. Cory gardner, and ill say, if he wins, ill go ahead and vote to unseat him. Why not go that far and send a clear message this guy does not belong in the senate. He has said he doesnt belong in the senate. Follow that through with a commitment to action. If he wins the election, he will support not only putting it before the Ethics Committee, but voting to unseat him. I dont know what the legalities of of seating or not seating, but i know this. The clearest way to expel someone is go to the Ethics Committee and get a clear finding of whats come out in this election which is, of course, very troubling. Lets take a quick break. Well continue this discussion ahead. Also ahead, more charges could be coming against campaign figures indicted in the mueller investigation. The latest on what we though about that when we continue. This is a power plant. This is tim barckholtz. Thats me this is something he is researching at exxonmobil using fuel cells to capture Carbon Emissions at power plants. This is the potential. Reducing co2 emissions by up to 90 . While also producing more power. This could be big. Energy lives here. Discover card. I justis this for real . Match, yep. 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Ask your dermatologist if cosentyx can help you find clear skin that lasts. Now were spending 10 to 12 million being spent by the democrats in this race. And you can tell that on television. Weve been talking about the president s support for roy moore speaking there in alabama tonight despite accusations against him. Moore will face off against doug jones in a battle for a senate seat one week from today. Moores continuing right now in fair hope, alabama. You just saw white house strategist steve bannon was there with him. In his speech bannon took aim at establishment republicans. Before the break we were talking about senator Mitch Mcconnell. Heres what bannon said about the senate. Mitch mcconnell from day one, and this is what youve got to understand with flake and romney and mcconnell and the whole crowd, this is the scam. They dont mind giving up a seat to a democrat. You know why . They dont mind being the minority party. They dont mind being out of power. They dont. Because heres the joke. They can make as much money on the way down as they made on the way up. Right . They would just as long as they can control the apparatus, donald trump won in wisconsin and brought ron johnson across the finish line, he won in pennsylvania and brought toomey across the finish line, won in missouri and brought blunt across the finish line. He won in North Carolina and brought burr across the finish line. Mitch, you owe your job to donald j. Trump. Im back now with the panel. Its interesting, phil. The president by finally endorsing roy moore, it seems like giving coverage to the rnc to reverse themselves and other republicans. Again, to the point that was made earlier, this isnt a huge surprise. President trump, the leader of the Republican Party, the Republican Party lining up behind him. The fascinating thing about this is that Steve Bannons vision for the Republican Party is essentially a completely splintered and fractured Republican Party. He has gone after the establishment. He wants to have a Republican Party that is completely different than the party as it is right now, which is why its sort november the abstract, baffling that the rnc is coming down and taking Steve Bannons side essentially. But when we look at a poll that came out today from pri that says half of republicans and half of democrats view the other party, their policies as an actual threat to the nation, thats the motivating factor. Its less about the party and the Republican Party and the leader Mitch Mcconnell as it is about the ideas that the republicans broadly stand for. Thats what bannon and trump have tapped into and what moore has tapped into as well. And its hugely dangerous for mcconnell down the road. A point made earlier, this wont go away if moore does win, very possible there will be this ethics investigation. There may be. My issue with this is that right now the one check that is failing to perform its function is congress. And, you know, we need people in there who at least have a minimum ethics bar. This is someone whos been removed from the Alabama Court twice for ethics violations. Hes expressed an interest in being on the Judiciary Committee which as we know is ov

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