Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20170502 00:00:00 :

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20170502 00:00:00

Saw a flare being fired into or being thrown into a police suv. The police also took that out. That fire we saw was just a few minutes ago. These are live pictures of kptv in oregon, the official protest cancelled, we have seen now just dozens and dozens of these people, basically just moving freely through the streets, kicking in windows at several stores, sara sidner has been in seattle, and she joins us now at the protest that is going on in portland. Sarah, this protest in portland, the official protest was cancelled, but theres clearly a number of people that the police are describing as anarchists who seem to be moving down a block in an uncontrolled way at this point. Reporter yeah, i think been destroyed. And so there is a lot of consternation there, where there are folks here who are concerned about that same group, the antifa, or antifascists. They sometimes call themselves far left. Youre actually seeing a Police Vehicle with tactical units, basically hanging on either side of the vehicle, actually two Police Vehicles with heavily Armed Police Officers moving through the streets in portland. And as sara was describing over the last 10 or 15 minutes, this group of about 100 people or so, mostly clad in black, who have basically just been moving through the streets, seemingly at will, its not clear from the pictures, because were only seeing one or two cameras on the scene. But its not clear exactly how the police have set up to try to control this crowd, there you see some people throwing things police have reported Molotov Cocktails being thrown, there was a flare put intro introa Police Vehicle, and police went in to get that flare. Theres the windows of a store being kicked in by one of the protesters. And there you see the flare being set and thrown into the store by one of the protesters as well. So were going to continue to monitor this situation in portland, well bring you any updates throughout the night as warranted. Were going to keep a close eye on that. Really throughout the next two hours. But theres been a busy day in u. S. Politics, the white house says President Donald Trump stands by his unfounded claim that president Obama Wiretapped him, that was after the president seemed to get testy when he was pressed on the fact jongun would sit facetoface and have a conversation . Not right now, i cant. At a very young age, he was able to assume power, im sure a lot of people tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else and he was able to do it. So obviously hes a pretty smart cookie. White House Press Secretary sean spicer acknowledged the obvious, kim jongun is a theres a lot of things that would have to happen in terms of his behavior and signs of good faith. Reporter spicer also seemed to echo his boss claims of kim jonguns leadership quality. He assumed power at a young age, when his father passed away, and hes obviously managed to lead a country forward. Reporter the president also had glowing comments for philippine president duterte. His war on drugs, where thousands of people have been killed. The number one concern of this president is to make sure that we do everything we can to protect our people, and specifically to economically and diplomatically isolate north korea. Jim acosta joins us now. What are. Reporter at the white house, anderson, Senior Administration officials were not that pleased about President Trumps comments about duterte. They were surprised by the invitation that the president extended to duterte. Its been reported that duterte has made comments hes not sure if he has time to meet with mr. Donald trump. But they will be able to meet later on this year in the philippines, but its worth there would have to be the maximum of conditions and roll backs of their program to get a meeting with the United States. Seeing that there could be a major, major conflict with north korea one day and dangling a meeting a few days later and complementing him as a very strong leader, does that make sense to you. It doesnt make sense to me. Perhaps hes trying to message president xi in some way, but its not going to work with kim jong jongun. Heres the really strange thing, his National Security team has actually done a good job of running a deliberate, measured interagency process on how to deal with north korea. And they have done this since the inauguration. Despite all the travel by the Vice President here recently, all that makes sense. I didnt hear anything from Secretary Tillerson that you didnt hear from the Obama Administration. But all of that is being put at a disadvantage if you will by the president s own sort of bellicose rhetoric and his inopportune tweets where he sends out these messages, all of that is unraveling where the National Security council has actually taken us. Some say the white house who has basically unleashed the police force to encourage the killing of the Extrajudicial Killing of drug dealers, drug addicts. Were talking about 7,500 people have been slaughtered in the several months, almost a year since duterte has been president. Throughout the whole international community, people who care about human rights have come out very, very heavy on him. But its true that his popularity is sky high in the philippines. But somebody like duterte probably wouldnt have been allowed inside the United States because unless he was a president. He doesnt have any influence, if the chinese president doesnt even know kim jongun, then duterte has no pressure to put on north korea. Sean spicer said today that its a way to isolate north korea. Christian is 100 right, they have no political, economic or even diplomatic throw aways in northeast area, what they have been able to help us with, and we have a legitimate mutual Security Alliance that dates back to 1951, but they have no throe weight at all in northeast asia. So the call about building this International Coalition was absolutely completely empty, there was nothing there, he needs to call duterte on the carpet for these human rights violations. Coming up, President Trump standing by his unfounded claim that president Obama Wiretapped him, despite republicans, democrats and the head of the fbi saying theres no evidence of that. Heres what he said when he was pressed on it. Plus a 360 exclusive, this is a stunning story got a National Security brief thats been kept quiet until now. An fbi staffer who ran away with the isis terrorist she was actually assigned to investigate. 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Members of both parties as well as the head of the fbi say there is no evidence to support the claim. That is not stopping President Trump. Heres what he said in an interview with John Dickerson. He was very nice to me, but after that we have had some difficulties. Words are les important to me than deeds, you saw what happened with surveillance and everybody saw what happened with surveillance. Difficulties how . You saw what happened with surveillance. What happened with surveillance . You can figure out that. You called him sick and bad. Look, you can figure it out yourself, he was very nice to me with words, and when i was with him, but after that theres been no relationship. But you stand by that claim . I dont stand by anything, you can take it the way you want, i think our sides been proven very strongly. I think that is a very big surveillance of our citizens. I think its a very big topic, and its a topic that should be number one and we should find out what the hell is going on. I just wanted to find out, youre the president of the United States, you said he was sick and bad because you can take it any way you want. But i want to get it from you. You dont have to ask me, because i have my own opinions, you can have your own opinions. I want to know your opinion, youre the president of the United States. Theres no evidence to support President Trumps wiretapping claims, and for the record, its not just me saying it, its pretty much everyone. We dont have any evidence of that taking place, in fact i dont believe in this last week, i dont think there was a tap of trump tower. Theres no ed of that. This outlandish claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor, it really ought to appall americans. With respect to the president s tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, i have no evidence that supports his tweets. Do you have any ed that now ryan lizza and jack kingston. Im curious as a reporter what you made out of that interview. And the president s refuse stall, he says he doesnt stand by anything, but hes clearly standing by those comments. He didnt make a case specifically, he just threw out some words, but he didnt actually make a specific claim. Previously he said in a tweet that it was a wiretap. Then he said that the british surveillance Intelligence Services perhaps were responsible for this and then he said that it was actually about incidental collection and unmasking. So there are three claims, each one was debunked and theres no evidence for the original wiretapping tweet or any of the others. But he still seems to want to generally to be thought that theres something behind it, without actually making any specific claim anymore. Because all the other ones have fallen apart. He really gets that frustrated, but he seemed very frustrated that he was pressed on it which to me is a sign hes given up defending this, but doesnt want to actually admit that he was wrong and lied in that original tweet. Everybodys talking about it, sometimes its a verbal tick that he uses, during the campaign we heard it a lot. He also said that there should be the number one topic of discussion, surveillance. Hi, everybody been scratching my head about this one because its demon straably falsz. Heres my here ray. Joe lewis great prize fighter, they kept asking him, why do you want to fight again . He said fighters fight. Liars lie. He just cant help it. Its pathological. I had forgotten about that even, i was ready to go on to the next issue, fight over health care, which apparently will be coming up soon. He just cant stop himself. Which is the only thing i can think of. Its a very simple thing, he told a lie and hes going to continue to repeat that lie. Even though the head of the nsa, the republican leader also says its false. Can you imagine the president demanding, we have to find out what the hell is going on, which is what he said about a number of things during the campaign, he is president of the United States, he could call in the head of the fbi and the head of the nsa and say what the heck is going on with surveillance. He has access to all the information out there about surveillance in the United States, so the idea that somehow he doesnt know whats going on or couldnt know, seems odd, dont you think . And that the unmasking, show the American People, we all deserve that information. I dont think the president s a liar, i know hes not a liar, i know hes guilty of imper situation if anything. Perhaps you saw the Susan Rice Unmasking documents, it led him to send that tweet. It was an imprecise tweet. Its one that should have been sought over. Maybe twitter Wasnt The Best medium to send that out. But theres a question about the unmasking of people in the Trump Campaign by cia officials. Unmasking wasnt what the president was talking about initially. But there is a case to be made that wiretapping is a term thats been used since the 80s to use surveillance in a broader way, it can be defined broader than just obama tapping he sent the tweet and called it a wiretap and then later learned from nunes, because he was concerned about unmasking. That unmasking he learned about weeks later. I was in congress when he passed the patriot act. I was in congress and got classified briefings on Eric Snowdens treason. I think there should be a lot of concern, democrat and republican on surveillance of American People during the metal data debate. We track your phone calls but we dont listen, no, we dont frack your phone calls. We have gotten a lot of information from the intelligence department. You wonder, how much information do these people really have on us . Thats what the president he talked about surveillance. And i agree with joe lewis, hes a fighter. He was talking about president obama wiretapping his phones in trump tower. Thats the tweet right there, how low has president obama gone to tap donald trump towers during this very say sacred election. I dont know how he knew what he knew when he knew it. By his own timeline, the president sent that tweet out and several weeks later, devin nunes said i have some information you should see. And he said i was right about the surveillance. Even if you accept the information that this information was somehow scandalous, the president said he didnt see it until long after this has all been litigated in public for a long time. And obviously its something that John Dickerson asked him about, but the fact that hes still sticking by, he has yet to acknowledge any fault or the most generous interpretation, that the original tweet, he didnt really know what he was saying, its horseshoes, and after he was investigating the thing, what he was really concerned about is collection under the fisa act. He didnt like the fact that the Intelligence Agencies could unmask people. It is the number one fool that they use to there has been information fed to Trump Supporters that 702 and the nsa are tapping your phones illegally and they can intercept anything they want. With the debate he started, sacrifices 702 this summer and republicans start turning against that, thats going to have ramifications. When the patriot act was passed originally. Eric snowden has become a edward. Edward, excuse me. Trump has aligned himself with snowden on this issue. And hes got to make a decision. But you need to be more specific. When you have susan rice, an Obama Administration official admitting on television, i cant deny or confirm and according to the reporting on cnn have said that theres no there there. Thats why the american citizens should be able to see the documents. And i would say that i go back to joe lewiss quote on susan rice, i think he was accurate. This was a woman who said there was no genocide in rwanda, that this is the United States of america has accused his predecessor of violating the law and the constitution by wiretapping him, that is a its a prevarication. Cps. The outcome is that they lose this tool, thats going to be a big deal. We got to lever ave it there the new Republican Health care bill is the list of no votes could be longer than expected. [team member] were proactively advancing our security the legislation is going to to pass the house in its current form . Thank you for having me. Let me say this, the bill in its current form is problematic for a few reasons, one, the medicaid provisions are changing, it does not pro governors kasich, Sandoval Have also i would tell you too that the states arent given enough flexibility for resources to deal with medicaid. Second the tax credits are not sufficient for many people who will transition from medicaid on to the exchanges. They will not be able to afford insurance, meaning that they will go naked or bare. And the amendment that has been proposed i believe makes it more difficult because it does potentially remove people with preexisting conditions. Do you think thats act root or do you know of more no votes out there that maybe are not on anybodys list . I suspect there are probably a few more no votes than 21 at the moment. I dont know what the exact number is. I have heard that its within two or three votes or as many as ten. I suspect its closer to ten than two or three. So you know some people who are planning to vote no who right now are not being counted . Pretty much, thats correct. One of the biggest sticking point, besides the medicaid issue you talked about is the fight over preexisting conditions. President trump said the bill is not in its final form now and it will be every bit as good on preexisting conditions as obamacare. Do you think thats true . Not with the amendment that was offered last we

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