Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20170223 : comparem

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20170223

The department of justice and department of education paves the way for an open and include sieve process to at thattic place at the local level and input from students and teachers. It rolls back the directives. This does not mean that students dont have any rights or means to protect themselves from bullying or discrimination. Theres also news on the travel restrictions. Reporter right, we had been expecting a new travel ban from the administration. The one they ruled out had been blocked out by the court. Now we are being told by an Administration Official that its not going to be coming until next week. Maybe early in the week. Maybe midweek, and sean spicer earlier today in his briefing said essentially, this new executive order is done. Theyre just finalizing the guidance to the agencies. It seems like they do want to make sure that when they roll this within out they have dotted all the is and crossed all the ts. Thats something that was not done on the first ban which caused widespread chaos in airports and not stuck in the courts. Rex tillerson arrived in mexico to hold meetings. He will be joined by Homeland Security secretary john kelly. They arrive against the backdrop of the new administration directives, plans to expand the border wall and more. What kind of reception awaits them . Laleh joins us from mexico city. Reporter today we heard the foreign minister for the first time give a reaction to that. And he basically said, look, mexico does not have to accept any measures unilaterally imposed by one country on mot r another country. And that is him directly responding to the dhs memos released yesterday. And he said you can bet that that will be a topic of discussion with tillerson, with kelly, who, by the way, tillerson, and the foreign minister here in mexico are having dinner right now. There is one mexican senator saying hey, theyre not welcome here. The secretaries are not welcome here, the walls not welcome here, mass deportations not welcome here. And we were on border two days ago and talked to two gentlemen who said it doesnt matter what donald trump does, if he builds one wall, two walls, three walls, they still plan to cross just to get to their families in the United States. I interviewed the Mexican Foreign minister a few weeks ago, he knows tillerson well. They had a relationship when tillerson was in the oil business. Do they know what they will be talking about with members of the Mexican Government . Reporter given the response this morning, we know immigration will be key for the Mexican Government. But realso heard him today say nafta was a big deal. Thats not really anything thats new. That freetrade agreement between canada, mexico and the u. S. Is something mexico has been pushing ever since President Trump said that it was one of the worst deals signed in u. S. History. And they always, mexico always pushes the fact that they need each other. Mexico and the u. S. Really depend on that trade. You have billions of jobs in the u. S. That depend on trade with mexico. You have 1. 5 billion average, on average, of trade that crosses that border every day. Now on the u. S. Side, we know that tillerson and kelly plan to discuss border security, immigration, as well as the economy and trade. So those are the big topics that we know for sure they will be talking about tomorrow. All right, laleh santiago, thank you from mexico city. Millions of people back home are facing prospects of potential deportation. Their relatives, many of whom are citizens are living with the possibility their families could be divided. A democratic congressman represents new yorks 13th district and serves on the House Foreign Affairs committee. We spoke just before airtime. Congressman, a lot of people who support what President Trump is proposing say look, this is just enforcing the laws, enforcing the laws that already exist. Its really much more than that. Its really about who we are as nation. Its really expediting removal of immigrants, submittiplitting families. You think this is a huge expansion. No question, no question. The people close to it say this expands the idea of whos broken the haw. T law. This goes after the law. Is it jumping the turnstile . I believe that the guidelines provided yesterday do not provide now specific details as to how the laws going to be enforced. They dont say theyre going to go into a church, arrest outside a church as the congregation gets to greet the priest. Are they going to follow a Yellow School bus to the school to see the parents waiting for children and round them up there, are they going to take caregivers away, people who care for the children, the elderly, the frail, are they going to be impacted because they have no documents . So the details have not been laid out. It sets the hounds loose after yes, ma immigrants. I think its going to harm our nation and create havoc and panic. Are you hearing people calling your office with fears and questions . People are afraid. Even people with green cards that are legitimately here. Why would somebody with a green card. Because they dont know if they look a certain way, if they pray to a certain god, they hey be caug may be caught up in the friend sieve a frenzy of all this. It could not be any more personal. It strikes me, it hurts me, as an american, it hurts me. How old were you, how old were you when were your family i was 9 years old. I was a young boy. We came here, we overstayed our visa. Like a lot of like a lot of folks did. And my paints arents are workins people, just wanted the best for their family. My grand parents were already here. They paved the way for us. We had a safety with our grand paint parents. You eventually, you went back. We went back, yes. To get a green card. Had we not gotten it, we would have been stuck there in a civil war in the middle of the 60s. To those who hear your story and say well, your family went back and got the green card and came back. Why cant everybody do that . Not everybody has a safety net. Not everybody has a set of grandparents have green cards who worked in factories and were able to sponsor us and submit an affidavit so we can get our green cards and come here. Thank you so much. Something the former sheriff babeu mentioned, Administration Guidelines aim to end a practice that would otherwise take you to the border. 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Rosa is eight months pregnant and is from el salvador and will be staying with an aunt in. Houston. Reporter houston, texas. He will be staying in austin. She is going to tulsa. You and your baby came by yourself from guatemala . You were scared . Yes, very scared she was. And here she is in the United States for the first time. They enter a local Catholic Church before the bus rides across the country. [ applause ] reporter and a warm ovation from volunteers greets them. Theyre here for food, clothing and showers after their harrowing journeys. P 30yearold miriam says she paid 4,000 to smugglers. Her husband is still at home in el salvador and makes the equivalent of 4,000 a year as a barber. Her kids cant go to school anymore because the gangs are too dangerous, they stalk her house. Theyve been fitted with ankle monitors and ordered to appear in front of an immigration judge. Everyone claims they will make this court appearances. Jose paid a smuggler all he had to pay to get him and his daughter here. He knows about donald trump and interestingly agrees in part with him. Criminals should be sent back for security reasons, but he says he and so many others are hard workers, adding, i want to work and improve the life of my kids. H this sister leads the effort. Its important to know who enters the country but do it in a way that is humane and we give them a fair chance. Reporter their new lives in america now about to begin with crucial challenges and decisions ahead of them. Perhaps the most immediate decision whether to indeed show up for their court hearings. They board the gray hound buses in complete exhaustion and with uncertainty about their futures, especially with this new american president on the job. Gary joins us now from near the u. S. mexico border. What still has to happen before the Trump Administration can end the socalled catch and release . Reporter well, anderson, as we see, it certainly hasnt come to an end. The immigration memo the Trump Administration sent out was yesterday. We shot this story after the memo came out yesterday afternoon and last night. And you see what happened. What the Trump Administration is saying it has to do, still, is hire more Border Patrol and ice agents and also increase the number of deteps center facilities, but perhaps the hardest thing to do will be to convince mexico to take many of these people. Many of these people are not from mexico, they have nothing to do with mexico. They were in mexico before they got to the United States. The Trump Administration wants mexico to take some of these people, and that may be one of the most difficult things to do. The panels back with us. Kiersten powers, anna navar owe. Isnt the administration on firm ground, enforcing laws that are already on the books . Its going to come done to the detail and how it gets implemented. And what you see a bunch of frenetic raids going on around the country, youre going to have a lot of problems. You dont just round up millions of people who are living, who are working, who are our neighbors, students, part of American Society and think that its not going to cause chaos, that theres not going to be a backlash. We saw it with the muslim ban. If its into the immembered correctly, if they go overboard like the muslim ban, youre going to see backlash all across this country. I have full faith and confidence in the American People that if they start seeing their friends, their childrens friends, their children childrens parents friends, if they start seeing students, their employees, mrtheir employers, doctors rounded up, families divided, i have the full faith and confidence in the American People that they will rise up and demand that congress get off their fence finally, for once and for all and pass some legislation. Kayleigh, the people who oppose what President Trump has proposed say essentially that criminals were already being targeted for deportation, you know, the Obama Administration had a policy of going after hardened criminals. Right, but there were also criminal Illegal Immigrants released into society under the Obama Administration. In fact, it was to the tune of 19,000 in 2015 alone. Hook, i agree with ana entirely to the extent that most illegal imfrapts in this country are hardworking people like you saw in that piece, the father who wants a better life for his daughter, but we forget about another population of people, and that is victims of imgrant crimes, like sabine who lost the life of her son dominick at the hands of an imgrant who was not supposed to be here, who was deported to guatemala and came back in and she lost her sons life. This immigration executive order, we left it this out of this, creates an office for those individuals who are american citizens who have a right to life and want to gather information on an illegal immigrant and in some cases, they murdered. Its a tragic case. We want to punish that person. We want to drive them out. The Migration Policy Institute says there are 300,000 felons undocumented in this country, we should target them and deport them. Thats what president obama was doing, he was the deportation president. He was very tough on this. And what mr. Trump is doing is use scare tactics to incite fear. No. Excuse me, this animals representative of that whole population. Its like saying dillen roylann a right ring white guy. When you have 108 people with murder convictions wireleased io the society. For that were going to deport 11 Million People. Does this go too far . Does this broaden the definition of whos a criminal . Does it open it up that anybody, a local Police Officer, a state Police Officer, member of ice, its really up to them to decide who they want to deport and who they dont. They will have a little more discretion under the new memos. The key is, the overarching theme of this is the safety and security of the American People and to enforce existing laws. Theyre simply giving the agents on the ground to enforce existing laws, and as gary mentioned, with regard to ending catch and release, which is a big proponent of this, it will take time. One of the memos says we need to hire 5,000 border agents, ice agents. Theyre going after criminals and people who already have deportation papers on the books. The argument that you hear from mayors or Law Enforcement is that the concern is somebody whos been the victim of domestic violence, a woman who is undocumented isnt going to feel comfortable pressing charges against her abuser, because shes afraid the judge might call up ice and have her deported. And also, if youre a person who doesnt care about that woman, lets just assume theres some people ots hear who dont, who might say i dont care. And out of selfinterest consider the fact that there are people who wont report crime that happens in your neighborhood. People who are a witness of trim. I talked to an immigration lawyer yesterday who said she had a client, someone broke into her house and held her at gun point, and shes an undocumented immigrant and she did not report it. Thats a crime that did not get reported. When theres a crime, people arent going to want to talk to the police. I think there is an impact on everybody. And this thing kelly you keep doing where youre proper trying undocumented immigrants as somehow being a menace to society. That were supposed to be living in fear of them somehow. Its such a small number of people, and, as paul said, really lawabiding people overall. Its just demonizing this entire group of people. Thats not true. Over a few tragic, tragic incidents. Listen, kiersten, to correct the record, the first statement out of my mouth was most legal immigrants are good, hardworking people. Why are you talking about anomalies . It is not an anomaly. Do you think Kate Steinles father thought it was an anomaly . Its a tragedy. Do you support Legal Immigration . Of course i do. Of course. Do you know theres some legal immigrants who kill sneak. People . What i care about is people who lose their life, it matters to sabine derden. Listen, honestly, this is a ridiculous discussion here. Nobl, i don nobody. I dont know a single immigrant, legal or illegal, who advocates a heinous

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