Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20170104 : comparem

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20170104

What are you learning about this report . This is a comprehensive review of the election hacks in roush sha ordered by president obama recently. There will be two versions, classified and declassified. Were told by officials the version that put together by the Intelligence Community is expected to be done this week. That will be the classified version. Then theres the one that will be made public that basically has this declassified information newly declassified information to make the case about why the Intelligence Community believes the russian government is to blame. So were being told by officials that this will include information that we havent heard about before and basically back up the Intelligence Communitys assessment in terms of why it believes russia was the perpetrator. Were told that there will be intelligence thats classified that will not be in the public report because officials dont want to give away sources and methods. But it will contain a lot more information than what weve heard so far. Trump is expected to get his briefing on the classified report as early as this friday were told. Hes also getting some pretty highlevel briefers. Thats right. Chief spy James Clapper and john brennan are just a couple of the lead officials briefing trump. This was per trumps request. Its not necessarily unofficial for an incoming president to be briefed by the top leaders in the Intelligence Community but as we know what is unusual is the fact that this highprofile briefing comes after months of trump publicly questioning the Intelligence Communitys assessment as recently as this past weekend saying hes skeptical about it. So it will be interesting to see, anderson, if he walks away after this briefing any more convinced about russias role. We heard today from the pentagon spokesperson john kirby that the u. S. Is 100 about russias role, that the information is rock solid, so a lot of us will be interested to see what trumps reaction is to this report. Pam, thanks for your reporting. We were waiting for the president elect to make good on a commitment he made new years eve on the subject. Take a look. I know a lot about hacking. And hacking is a pretty hard thing to prove. So it could be somebody else. And i also know things that other people dont know and they cannot be sure of this situation. What do you know that other people dont know . You isle fupd out on tuesday or wednesday. Tuesday was yesterday. We have breaking news on that scene. Jim acosta has the latest. Do we know if well hear from donald trump on this . Was it clear he was saying meaning he would announce something or was e talking about the report that would be put out . Anderson, it sounds like he was talking about something he would say that he would tell the public on tuesday or wednesday. But im told by a top transition official that donald trump will not be making any formal remarks about russia hacking in the 2016 election tomorrow despite the fact he told reporters there that he would have more to say on this and knows more than what the public knows about russian hacking in the 2016 election that he would be talking about this on quote tuesday or wednesday. Tomorrow is wednesday. That is not expected to happen according to this aide who says anything can happen with donald trump, so there is a slight caution there that he could potentially decide at the last second to Say Something tomorrow about this. But at this point there are no plans in the works or any kind of formal remarks on this. Just to jump on what pamela was saying, i am told by a trump transition official he is expected to meet with Intelligence Community leaders toward the end of this week. That is when hes expected to receive that final report from the Intelligence Community on russian hacking in the 2016 election. One of these officials told me it wouldnt be appropriate at this point for them to say more about this until they get that report. They feel like this whole allegation and Intelligence Community finding about russian hacking has been politicized and used as a way to delegitimize Donald Trumps election in the 2016 race. But you heard donald trump over the weekend calling into question these Intelligence Community findings that russia was hacking and releasing damaging information about Hillary Clinton during the election. You heard donald trump say over the weekend he has as much faith in that as when the Intelligence Community said there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. So he is coming into this meeting when it happens this week as a big skeptic. Jim acosta, appreciate it. James woolsey served as director of Central Intelligence in the early clipton administration. Senior adviser to the president elect donald trump. Thanks for being with us. Do you know if president elect donald trump is planning on making an announcement . I dont and i would leave it up to his people that work on press statements and so forth to carry that information. I dont know. Yesterday you said that while you do believe that the russian hacked you also believe others could be behind it as well. Today some sources are telling cnn theres no indication other countries like china or iran played a role because other countries have specific digital footprints. But do you believe others could have been involved . Yes and its important to keep a couple of things clear. The word hacking covers a multitude of possibilities. Everything from looking into a system to see whats there and then going away to making changes to the Voting Machines so your side wins. So far i think most americans would regard hacking in to Voting Machines as meaning youre making some changes in what the totals were. But that apparently has not occurred here. Theres no indication that its occurred. They apparently looked for it to see if it had happened and did not believe it had. A footnote to this by the way, we do need to fix our Voting Machines so that two and four years from now they cannot be essentially falsely programmed by a hacker. Third option isin hacking, which as you said one is affecting Voting Machines, no evidence of that, the other looking around to gather information, the other is what some believe happened which is them or somebody looking getting emails and releasing them, kind of weaponizing the information, whatever the results may have been. Thats up for debate. I dont know what it means to weaponize the information. If information was turned loose and as a result of that when found what the Democratic National committee was doing to Bernie Sanders to tilt things against him, then fiddle on the Democratic National committee. Im sure that was embarrassing to them. But its a little hard to make that be i think a salient example of how the election was changed. The argument is, and again im not saying this necessarily affected the outcome of the election but certainly there are democrats who believe that just the embarrassing, you know, drip, drip of information of what, you know, all the stuff that was revealed about the dnc may have had some sort of impact. I think its an arguable point about what kind of impact it had. My understanding is that the fbi worked with the republican National Committee and the rnc let them in to do analysis and figure out what was going on and if they were being hacked and if there was any information on they could find and so forth whereas the dnc didnt or couldnt do that because they were under investigation for other things at the time. But if one of two parties has said to the fbi come in, here are the keys to the kingdom, look at anything you want, and the other has not done, that it seems to meitis odd to be more suspicious of the one that is being open. Are you as one of the president elects senior advisers expressed to him you do believe the russians are behind this, you believe other actors could be out there as well, have you expressed that to donald trump . Behind is i think a bad word here because i believe and i think probably a lot of people believe that the russians did something. And it is entirely plausible if Something Like that occurs and a lot of hacking is going on in the sense of looking into something that other countries could have been involved and it would be surprising to me if they were not. But i dont think that that means that there was anything untoward in an attempt to change the outcome of the election either by fiddling with the machines or any other way. I dont understand how what happened is supposed to have changed the outcome of the election. It seems to be a real stretch. Wa you just said, and you said that to president elect trump as well . Ive worked for four president s over the year, two republicans, two democrats, didnt tell anybody what advice i give them or say to them nor what they say me and im not going to start more. Kind of knew you would say that. You said yesterday there is a possibility president elect trump is playing with us or the media. What do you mean . We were talking about the campaign at the time. I think he goes into a different mode of operation when hes before a large crowd and hes playing to the crowd than he does, for example, when hes in a small meeting and ive been in a couple of those with him of just a very few people. Very reasonable, straightforward, good questions, interesting answers. Hes not like he is standing before 50,000 millennials and leading them in cheers. As we heard in pam browns reporting, the president elect is expected to be briefed on the review into hacking by john brennan and James Clapper. The fact that the leaders of the Intelligence Community will be briefing him, does that say anythi anything . Is that common place . I dont know. This whole situation were in is different than what weve seen before. People are interested in this issue and its an important one. I see nothing particularly odd or wrong at all about having the top two people in the Intelligence Community take part in the briefing. My hunch is if theyre technical subjects at issue youll find that somewhat lowerlevel people make more of a contribution than the people at the top of the organizations. Finally, the hacking that china was according to the u. S. Government involved with in which people say information was actually taken, do you believe that as more serious or how do you see that compared to what russia is now being accused of . Compared with Bernie Sanders being treated badly by the dnc, it seems to me that losing millions of Background Data about people or security numbers, their friends, their associates, their businesses, all of this in forms that they have to fill out, losing that to hacking by china is so far more important it seems to me than the tiff between the dnc and Bernie Sanders that im kind of staggered by anybody who would think it differently. Ambassador woolsey, appreciate you being with us. Good to be with you. More breaking news. 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What she washed this like a month ago the long lasting scent of gain flings congress is back on th johe. Speaker of the house paul ryan. Thank you. Paul ryan reelected House Speaker. What these lawmakers decide will have consequences. Republicans first order of business before repealing obamacare or anything else in the agenda before todays opening gavel sounded was a secret vote to essentially cripple the Nonpartisan Office set up for one reason keeping lawmakers from either party honest. Then a massive outcry, then a tweet from donald trump. Now the plan is toast and mr. Trump is poised to take the credit. Manu raju joins us from the capitol. How did we get from a to b here and how much did Donald Trumps tweet affect the outcome . You know, anderson, this was not part of the plan, the proposal to gut this ethics watchdog, not part of the plan that the House Republican leadership and the Trump Transition Team set out on ever since election day. They had been trying to lay out a number of things they want to do ranging from repealing obamacare to reforming the tax code, going after obama regulations. Going after this Ethics Agency only came up in a closed door monday night meeting when congressman Bob Goodlatte of virginia offered a proposal to change house rules in order to put what he believes is more oversight of this committee. Critics said this would have gutted the committee. Once that proposal actually was adopted in this closed door meeting by House Republicans, it got a lot of blowback publicly. Members of congress were getting tons of phone calls from angry constituents, getting bad headlines in the press, and donald trump tweeted saying earlier this morning that he does not think that this is what congress should be doing. Actually saying with all that congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the independent ethics watchdog as unfair as it may be their numberone act and priority saying they should focus on other things like tax reform and health care. That led after all this pressure was building, House Speaker paul ryan holding an emergency meeting with his members, ryan himself opposing this idea and prevailing upon his members to join with them because they do not believe they had the votes to actually approve this rules package in the full house this afternoon and led to the decision to abruptly scrap this plan to try to get on the same page. I understand paul ryan spoke with donald trump tonight. Do we know what was discussed . That conversation happened after this vote took place. There were no discussions from what we understand before this aboutface by the House Republicans. This is part of their efforts to try to stay on the same page Going Forward on obamacare and the like. The exact details we dont quite know yet. Well learn more when House Speaker paul ryan talks to reporters tomorrow and also tomorrow, anderson, mike pence coming to capitol hill to meet with House Republicans and Senate Republicans to discuss their plans on obamacare. Does this affect party unity in any way . Its a sign of the real challenges republicans will have staying united. This ethics issue is a small issue compared to the huge monumental issues they want to deal with in the new congress. Talking about party unity, that will be essential, not just getting things done through the house where they wont get much democratic support, but also the senate, where they need democratic support to pass Donald Trumps agenda. Once you start getting democratic support you may lose some conservatives. Party unity is very challenging. It is a sign of the difficulties ahead for donald trump. Manu raju, thank you. John king and gloria borger. Clearly republicans have realized this was a wrong move politically. Why attempt this in the first place . I know. It leaves you scratching your head. Maybe they wanted to lower their Approval Rating even some more or maybe its just because they could . By to do this b

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