Good evening. Tonight our 360 exclusive interview with donald trump, his second major shift in the last 48 hours on the founding issue of his campaign, immigration policy. I asked him whether he stands behind the label that he had for Hillary Clinton, bigot. We begin, though, with her point by point attack on him today and the kind of bigotry that she says he stands for. Jeff zeleny has that. Reporter Hillary Clinton opening a new blistering line of attack tonight against donald trump. He says he wants to make America Great again, but more and more it seems as though his real message seems to be make america hate again. Reporter in reno, clinton going farther than shes gone before, painting trump as divisive, dangerous and radical. The last thing we need in the situation room is a loose cannon who cant tell the difference or doesnt care to between fact and fiction. And who buys so easily into racially tinged rumors. Reporter she said trump and his new advisers are peddling hate by embracing an altright philosophy linked to the White Nationalist movement. This is not conservatism as we have known it. This is not republicanism as we have known it. Reporter campaigning in New Hampshire today, trump said clinton was spreading smears and lies. I want you to remember these three words. Shame on you. Reporter more than a fullthroated takedown of her rival, clinton all but shamed republicans for aligning themselves with trumps rhetoric. This is a moment of reckoning for every republican dismayed at the party of lincoln has become the party of trump. Reporter she also take aim at steve bannon, the trump campaigns new ceo whose website Breitbart News routinely publishes conspiracy theories and offers a racially tinged world view. A fringe element that has effectively taken over the Republican Party. Reporter as trump seems to be trying to moderate and soften his tone believe it or not i regret it. Reporter clinton is intent on reminding voters of his most controversial hits. Now trump is trying to rebrand himself as well but donting fool inbe fooled. We know who trump is. Reporter the speech the latest in a series of efforts to undermine trumps perceived flaws. Hes written a lot of books about business. They all seem to end at chapter 11. Reporter tonight she is extending a hand to skeptical republicans as she tries to lure them away from trump. Every day more americans are standing up and saying enough is enough, including a lot of republicans, and i am honored to have their support in this campaign. You alluded to this. Who was Hillary Clintons target audience in this . Reporter she said it was a moment of reckoning for republicans so this was a rare speech where she was actually reaching out to republicans. Democrats of course largely agree with her on this. This was not a speech designed to bring over people from the left, anyone who has questions about her. It was a speech aimed at people who are not comfortable necessarily with some of what donald trump has been saying. She of course talked about bob dole fondly, talked about george w. Bush, talked about john mccain, gave instances how each of them had sort of embraced president obama in one respect, had dismissed hate in another respect, and she said donald trump simply isnt doing that. But she was also trying to change the subject from a rocky week that she has had on the campaign trail. The question is are republicans open to supporting her. Some may be but the vast majority i believe certainly would not be. Good point about her trying to change the subject certainly. Jeff zeleny. Back now with the panel. Joined also by conservative talk show host dana laesch. Good to have you on. What are you hearing from your listeners about donald trump on immigration . Are they confused . Seems like the panel here is confused. Are they confused . They are. Thanks for having me. I took calls all day on radio about this. People were a little confused. Some were trying to come to grips with well, is this just him kind of pivoting and running a general Election Campaign as opposed to running a primary in a general. Is this just him simply caving and copying jeb bushs immigration plan, marco rubios immigration plan, all the immigration plans of everyone else. People are really confused. I think what they are waiting for, i think they are waiting to see what he actually says in terms of concrete steps besides general platitudes, besides saying we will send the bad ones back. Okay, how are we going to do this. Enforcing the laws we have. Okay, name them. Walk people down the path without taking them through the weeds. Make it concise. Im sure we can explain it to where people can understand. Thats what they are waiting for. People are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but are feeling incredibly uneasy right now. If he is backing away, if he is softening from the idea of all 11 million or however many undocumented immigrants are in the country, they all got to get out, Deportation Force, it will be done humanely and the good ones can get back in which is what he was saying during the primary. If he is backing away from that, do you think is that a danger . Its obviously a danger of losing some of his base. What are you hearing . I think the biggest danger right now to him is the longer that he takes to have a policy speech on this, the more hes allowing Hillary Clintons reaction and the media reaction to write this for him. Hes going to be reacting instead of introducing and setting policy with this. He did have deportation for 11 Million People here illegally. He had deportation on the table. He talked, hes been on a cnn debate talking about deportation. If hes saying look, we are only going to take the bad ones out, then you had asked him too as well, are we talking about a pathway to legalization because theres a difference between legalization and whether or not someone is going to have the status of a citizen. And he didnt really get into the difference of that. He was talking about legalization, okay, does that mean voting in your local elections, does that mean you will give people the general vote because thats one of the things that in the gang of eight ted cruz was trying to amend and take away the voting process for that. Its really confusing. Hes got to come out and this is what people are willing, people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I dont know how long thats going to last. But i will say this. I think the individuals that he was hoping to maybe loop in here, the people who were always about lets enforce the existing laws that we have, we are not going to be able to have a Deportation Force large enough to deport 11 Million People, so lets talk about no Voting Rights and legalization status. I dont know if he acted quickly enough from what i heard from people today to loop those people in. Got it. Paul, you were tweeting about secretary clintons speech today. Manically. You were saying it was cutting but calm, certainly different than most of the stump speeches we have seen from her, frankly. Right. The juxtaposition was also telling. Donald trump was shouting at the teleprompter. Then a few minutes later, hillary often shouts at the teleprompter, too, to tell you the truth. Its offputting. She was calm. This is hillary the lawyer. She laid out an indictment. She cited 13 specific times that she believes donald trump has acted in a racially biased way. She didnt just say oh, hes a bigot like trump. How much of this was just to get the topic off the Clinton Foundation, get the topic off the 15,000 emails . You always want to change the subject when you have bad news but she chose as her slogan stronger together. Unity is one of her core values. It has always been. It was her first job out of school was working for the childrens defense fund. She has always cared desperately about these issues. Now shes up against a guy she thinks is terrible about this. Quinnipiac poll came out today. The amateurs say headtohead shes up ten. Thats not important. The professionals are looking at a cross tab of College Educated whites. No democrat has ever won College Educated whites in the history of polling, ever. Shes winning them by one. By one. Just by one. But shes winning them. If donald trump cant win College Educated whites, thats who she was talking to today, thats why she praised george w. Bush and praised john mccain and praised bob dole and quoted paul ryan. She is reaching into the other side and pulling them over and its very very effective. It is working in this poll. Scottie . Its interesting you say the word unify. Thats not what i heard from hillary. Granted, she fed the meat you wanted but she insulted a huge group. In fact, what we consider to be the silent majority for the last two years have awoken. You look at that room, you look at angry people. I didnt see smiles and cheers as opposed to a trump rally. And frequent violence. No. Theres no violence. Theres more violence outside. Somebody got punched out. More trump people have been assaulted than Hillary Clinton folks. Let me point that out. By Hillary Clinton people. Thats a bunch of hooey. No we saw last week in minnesota at a fundraiser these people were assaulted. The problem is you look, hillary looked angry but she insulted. If you want to talk about unifying, she didnt unify. You look at the group that does read breitbart or the blaze, all these people, she insulted all of us right here today. By saying just because she does not like who shes running against, she called us all racist. She called us all bigot. That is what the he let him respond. Do you agree that Birth Control makes women unattractive and crazy . Thats a breitbart headline hillary cited today. Do you agree with this . Breitbart headline. Hill lary quoted today. Would you rather your child have feminism or cancer . Do you believe Gabby Giffords is the gun control movements human shield . These are breitbart headlines she quoted. Let me finish. Let me finish. Excuse me for talking while youre interrupting. So its a legitimate question to say why would someone who publishes this kind of thing be selected to be the ceo of Trumps Campaign . He has a perfect right to publish it. Im glad we have a free press. I really am. But why pick a guy like that . Did you think it was smart for Hillary Clinton to bring up this altright thing . Especially at this time because again, to points others have made, it has changed the topic from when you talk about clinton, away from the Clinton Foundation which has been a couple bad days for her . Yes and no. I think it was, if i were running against someone, i would want to take off my i would want to get my opponent at the knees no matter how. So she brought that up as a way, i do think she in a way kind of, she didnt really emphasize the difference between conservatives and the altright. I didnt like how she was positioning herself as the savior of the Republican Party because if memory calls, she actually identified republicans as enemies in her interview with you not too long ago. But when shes trying to paint trump with the altright, i think it was a bad choice to have bannon on. I like kellyanne conway. Steve bannon comes with a lot of baggage and this is some of the baggage he comes with. And it isnt representative of all conservatives or all republicans, though. Heres where i think its a bad idea for her to do so. She just opened the door wide open to herself. Everyones already i already heard it discussed just on your program this evening someone bringing up the fact she had once called robert burg her friend and mentor. Lets not forget when bill clinton frequented an all white golf course in arkansas and didnt stop going until he was busted. Theres a ton of stuff there i dont think she wants to rehash. She kind of opened the door on herself going down this road. We will see how that pans out. Got to take a break. Lot more to talk about including a question for clinton supporters. Any of the controversy surrounding her giving them second thoughts. Hey, is this our turn . Honey. Our turn . Yeah, we go left right here. woman vo Great Adventures are still out there. Well find them in our subaru outback. avo love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. 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Reporter for anybody coming to see Hillary Clinton in reno, nevada, there was no escaping the issues that have complicated her candidacy. A small but loud group of Trump Supporters made sure of that. But it only strengthened the resolve of many of the clinton supporters. Shes withstood all of the punishment put upon her for the last 30 years and i support her strongly. I believe in strong, smart women. Reporter the continuing Clinton Campaign controversies, the emails, the Clinton Foundation. Among these strong supporters the overwhelming consensus, she did nothing wrong. Its very annoying the way they go on and on and none of its true. I think theyre looking for something. I dont really think theres anything there. Im not worried about it. Reporter even if there is no fire, whose fault is the smoke . These supporters are more flexible about that question. We are all humans. We make mistakes. Shes made some mistakes. Shes not the perfect person but were not all perfect. Reporter some even acknowledge their trust was a bit shaken. Those of us that educate ourselves with regard to Hillary Clinton and all of her efforts over the years can overcome that distrust because we know who she truly is. Thank you. Reporter one thing Hillary Clinton is right now is someone who avoids news conferences. For almost nine months. These supporters tend not to fault her for that. The lack of the press conferences doesnt speak to me as fear. It speaks to me as smarts. Reporter in what way . Because she wants to keep her environment controlled. Thats a smart politician, in my view. Reporter would that be considered maybe a paranoid politician . Depends on your view. Perhaps. Reporter thats not yours . No, of course not. Reporter we had one final question for these clinton supporters. He says he wants to make America Great again but more and more it seems as though his real message seems to be make america hate again. Reporter a final question on the day Hillary Clinton skewered trump for quote, a steady stream of bigotry. Donald trump just called Hillary Clinton a quote, bigot. When you hear that, what do you think . I think hes talking about donald trump, not about Hillary Clinton. If i ever saw a bigot, its donald trump. Gary tuchman joins us. Did you talk to anyone who expressed concern to you that Hillary Clinton could lose the election because some of these controversies . Reporter i talked to a lot of Hillary Clinton supporters today and if any of them thought she could lose solely based on the controversies, they werent admitting it. There was a lot of optimism among Hillary Clinton supporters because of the polling since the democratic convention. However, there were a number of people i talked to today who feel the election could be much closer than they think it should be because of the controversies. Gary tuchman, thanks very much. Back with the panel. When it comes to attacks on the Clinton Foundation, i talked to secretary clinton, she called in last night, she said theres smoke, no fire. But isnt the appearance of conflict something that kind of feeds into the untrustworthy narrative concerns some voters have . I dont think theres an appearance. Look, shes had mistakes, shes had problems, the email thing was a mistake and i said it the very first day it broke. I said everyone in the government should use government email. This foundation does such good work. In the whole wide world of 17 Million People, who get drugs to keep them alive with aids. 11. 5 of them get them because of Clinton Foundation. This is a terrific charity. By the way, mr. Trump himself gave over 100,000 and he was asked but certainly when they hear some rich person who gets to have a meeting with secretary clinton the a. P. Found i think 85 people who got meetings including elie weisel. People with visa issues. Good. People should get their visas taken care of. There were 7,000 donors. 85 got meetings. Thats a lot of paying without any playing. I dont know how many get their visas fixed by secretary clinton. I dont think she fixed visas herself. I t