California. Cnns correspondent is traveling with him now. You were there when ben carson said this. Did the crowd interpret it as a jab at donald trump . Well, this actually took place backstage, just before the big event where there are thousand of people here to see ben carson. Talking to the media. He was asked what the distinction was between him and donald trump. This is the first time he has really taken the gloves off. It was fascinating that he went after trump as inauthentic on religion. I think we have a little more of the sound here. By humility and the fear of the lord. Our riches, and honor and life. Thats a big part of who i am. Humility and the fear of the lord. I dont get that impression with him. Maybe im wrong. I dont get that impression. It is striking. Up until this point, trump and carson they havent taken jabs at each other. Right, and its just so striking that ben carson perhaps the most mildmannered candidate in the race would go after trump in this way when so many other republican candidates have been afraid to go after him to. Go after him on Something Like religion, there is an opportunity here for ben cars on to consolidate evangelicals behind him. A lot of people i talked to in the crowd here, were feeling like trump was inauthentic in that way. They dont like his answers on religion so far. There may bean opportunity for carson here. Interesting. This is something rick perry tried. Has the not worked out very well for rick perry if you look at the poll numbers. Appreciate you booing with eing. Donald trump, at a big washington rally today. Political bromance with senator cruz, he, senator cruz and palin speaking out against the deal for a vote in a couple dates. Late word on gop infighting surrounding it. All of that and more from dana bash joining us at the center. Im told it was ted cruzs idea to invite his competitor. He know where donald trump goes, goes the spotlight. One of the many reasons why cruz has made unusual moves to cozy up to trump. Here is something you deont se every day. Competitors for the white house embracing, literally. But donald trump and ted cruz hugging it out is actually just taking their budding political bromance to the next step. Up and senator cruz seem to have an unusual relationship when it comes to republican competitors, why do you have this bromance. . It is a little bit of a romance. He backed me. Reporter trump is right. He is the one who made the first move. While other republican 2016 candidates slammed the billionaire frontrunner, cruz courts him. There are not a lot of people. Reporter the texas senator flew to new york for a private meeting. As a result, trump follows the trump rule. Say nice things about him. He will do the same. Senator cruz has been so nice to me. I cant hit him. Reporter why have you been so loving towards donald trump . I like donald trump. And im glad that he has energized and excited a lot of people. I also think donald trump has been tremendously beneficial to our campaign. Mexico sends its people. Reporter because cruz says, trump has forcinged the gop 2016 debate on illegal immigration, a topic he cares about. Senator cruz. Reporter at first blush, cruzs trump love seems selfdefeating since trump is drawing antiwashington g. O. P. Voters who may otherwise support cruz. You were the one supposed to be the outsider. How is he not taking votes because people say, oh, there is an outsider, donald trump, not the guy with senator in front of his name . I am a big fan that every battle is won before it is fought. Won by choosing the terrain. Framing the argument. You are fight on the same terrain. No, right now the people supporting donald trump are looking for some one who will stand up to the washington cartel. I have a proven record of doing so. Cruz has a more practical reason for liking trump. He gets attention. I want to thank my friend, donald trump for joining us today. Reporter it is why cruz invited trump to the rally opposing the iran deal. He asked me to get along here, come along. And i guess he figured wed get a big crowd. We have gotten a big crowd. Reporter trumps celebrity helped him in the last gop debate. Donald has an incredible ability to attract attention. 24 million americans watched the first debate. Millions of eyeballs watched that debate. Our National Support doubled. Reporter unlike other candidates. Cruz has a lot of cash for his campaign and super pac. The hope, if trump fizzles his supporters will return cruzs love. Thats where trump draws the line in the reunusual relationship. If it ever came to it and you dropped out for whatever reason would you encourage supporters to support ted cruz. Im everdropping onever drop. How can ted cruz be in the bromance . Cruz benefits if trump gets out of the race. Which doesnt seem likely. It doesnt. My understanding to answer that. Cruzs feeling in iowa, South Carolina where there are a lot of hard core voters there may be enough cruz voters he can do well with those who look trumps message but arent sure he is a real conservative. Cruz doesnt criticize trump. But if you listen carefully, he says he is a consistent conservative. Seems to bea bit of a dog whistle if you will. And then, if you kind of notice, cruzs quietly been campaigning in southern states. States that may help him sustain his campaign if you look at the long road and political calendar. But as you say at the end of the day, there is only one man likely to be standing in the sort of antiestablishment conservative lane of the field. Its, hard to see, both of them surviving. But, cruz is just kind of, going the distance. To try to bank on fact that maybe trump will implode at one point. Maybe, the fact that he was so nice to him could benefit him in the end. Dana. Pres appreciate the reporting. Former Communications Director for senator ted cruz. Trump supporter and former Reagan White House political director. Also joining us, republican strategist, rick wilson. Amanda, trump said he has been hoping for, for dr. Cars on to realto dr. Carson to hit him at some point. In his words he likes to counterpunch. What dr. Cars on said, raising questions about his faith. Was that the hit that trump was waiting for . It happened regardless how it came. I am really disappointed by the decision that ben carson madeti. To say my faith is bigger than yours. It doesnt play right. And heres the thing. I think, september is going to be a huge month for christian voters to decide which candidate they may back. They have the fight over iranian deal, planned parenthood, marriage. It is happening, the candidate other than engaging on the three, use is an enormous mistake. I want to play what dr. Carson said, the second part when he was following up his initial remark. By humility and the fear of the lord. Our riches, our honor, our life. Thats a very big part of who i am. Humility and the fear of the lord. I dont get that impression with him. Maybe i am wrong. Ive dont get that impression. Rick you, have been a vocal critic of donald trump all along. What do you thing of carsons remarks. Rick perry tried this a while ago. In much harsher language. A frontal assault. And didnt have the impact he wanted. This draws out something about the possession of the two men as the outsider, primary outsider candidates right now. Trump is the id of the Republican Party. Carson is the super ego. The aspirational image of people, so accomplished, so mindful. And obviously he is very deeply driven by and imbued in his faith. People respect that. People find that to be a very appealing characteristic about ben carson. The fact that he is drawn a c contrast with donald trump. Donald trumps admiration of the bible is about a millimeter thick. And his professed faith seems to be something that is really sort of perked up during election season. I think ben carson drauk twing contrast was not in a hostile or nasty way. It emphasizes ben carsons faith is part of his back ground and upbringing and huge part of his success. That is something he is drawing a can trast in a way. He feels very comfortable doing. As always, ben carsons affect is so calm, so steady, that even, even something that is a pretty hard hit doesnt come across in the same way. Perhaps someone from a more traditional political mean would have done. Do you agree . Ben carson, driving tremendous good will among Republican Voters right now. The way he went about this. Was different than rick perry did. Do you see trump responding, kind of with, guns ablazing. He might. Sure. Sure. He might. He does do the counter punch. I would also say, there was a Washington Post poll last month. That showed donald trump ahead of the field by six points. When it came to evangelicals. So he has considerable support in the evangelical movement. I would say this about evangelicals. I say this about every individual voting group. Theyre more than just that individual concern. E ven gevangelicals have mortga need jobs, concerned about iranian nuclears, concerned about illegal immigration. Theyre not one dimensional figures. I think at the end of the day. The winner of this will be somebody who appeals across the board to a wide selection of people who have common concerns, not just one particular individual concern. Wreck, i guess donald trump could, could respond in a way that would actually win on two fronts. One he could stay he believes in turning the other cheek. Which would not only respond to carson but also satisfy those who wanted a bible passage from him. Which i think he had not yet or bible reference he hadnt yet given him. Well, look. The art of the deal is not part of the apothecary even. Trump is going to find his supporters are going to, carry the attack to ben carson. This is the sort of thing that seems to happen now. He is galvanized, an active, vocal set of supporters. Whove the minute someone comes up against trump they become enathma, historys great saes portsaes greatest supporter, has to be destroyed. He and carson are the two primary outsiders now benefiting from antiestablishment, antiwashington mood. Amanda one thing, anderson. Sorry, jeff. Go ahead. One other thing, anderson. Historically when we see this kind of things between a leading candidates and a primary situation, sometimes they wind up on the same ticket. Kennedy johnson. Reagan bush. That sort of thing. Obama, well he didnt pick hillary clinton. She wound up as secretary of state. You know there is, there is more smoke here sometimes than actual fire. At the end of day. They all do manage to got together as a rule. A amanda, the rally, antinuclear deal, donald trump and ted cruz. Who is benefiting the most from it, trump and cruz . An interesting question. Both get so much benefit. Ted cruz has appeal. Getting donald trump there, getting cameras. Showing he can place nice with president ial candidates which is huge for both of them. Also, donald trump gets the benefit of engaging in a legislative issue and he is not an elected member of office. Frankly, i would look to see more president ial candidates get engaged on the actual mechanical fights against the Obama Administration that are currently being fought in the United States capitol. You see a lot of people aiming their fire at Senate Majority leader, mitch mcconnell, john boehner for political benefit. When it comes to the nuts and bolts of things. I would look to see more get in the action. So i think it is very ben fshl to the both of them. Give a slight advantage to ted cruz. Jeffrey, is there a risk in this . You see them as a natural team. Is there a risk they take votes away from each other . Yes. Yes, i think, there is a potential here for an alliance of sort. And i would call your attention in, in october tough 2013, American Spectator for which i am contributing editor had their big fall dinner in washington. The two attractions by chance were donald trump and ted cruz. It was pretty clear that they really hit it off. And, you know their separate speeches are on youtube. There they are ribbing each other about different things, donald trump giving ted cruz encouragement, ted cruz is talking a game show, win Donald Trumps money. You know it was quite a, quite a remarkable thing. Now that you look back on it. I think that was the beginning of, what they might say is a beautiful relationship, friendship. Rick, before we go. Jeb bush did an imtaitation on Stephen Colberts show. I will turn the National Mall into a National Golf course. China will respect that. I prom tice put meat loaf on the 10 bill and give lil john a cabinet possession that will send the message this great nation will never turn down for one. Supporters of jeb bush would say anything that showcases job bush in a different light, especially at trumps expense is a good thing. In your view, i mean is this kind of thing, does it matter . Look, i think the fact that jeb bush was on tv last night where Stephen Colbert captured 6. 5 Million Viewers matters. A venue that, you would be a fool not to take advantage of. If you are any president ial candidate. Especially, since, the other candidates arent like donald from. They cant snap their fingers and cause cameras to appear wherever they are. Take advantage of those things. You know, i have to tell you it strikes me very funny that the lines colbert and writers put together there. You could imagine the same things coming out Donald Trumps mouth with no sense of irony whatsoever. Interesting point. Naturally, not scripted. Yeah, naturally, sure. Rick, jeffrey amanda. Thank you. How donald trump sees the rest of the world. Why his view has resonated with Republican Voters. Whether or not he can turn night president ial foreign policy. Breaking news in the shooting death of an Illinois Police officer. Three suspects at large. Now late word on how investigators believe the lieutenant died. At least, where, where the investigation is leading at this stage. When cigarette cravings hit, all i can think about is getting relief. Only nicorette mini has a patented fastdissolving formula. It starts to relieve sudden cravings fast. I never know when ill need relief. Thats why i only choose nicorette mini. Once again, gop frontrunner, Donald Trump Takes Center Stage speaking out against the nuclear deal with iran. He is doing them with sharp elbows and big talk. We will have so much winning if i get elected, that you may get bored with winning. Believe me. I agree. You will never get bored with winning. We never get bored. He says he will strike a different tone if elected and will surround himself with advisers on global affairs. Now, pure, uncut, 100 proof donald trump. Tom foreman shows us trumps world in his words. They rip us off. They take our money. They make us look like fools. Reporter donald trump talking about iran and the nuclear deal, but he might have been talking about any number of countries. On the trail he is relentlessly describing the world. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Reporter his comments about undocumented mexican immigrants made headlines recently. Last year he was railing against russia. I mean putin has eaten obamas lunch therefore our lunch for a long period of time. Reporter in iraq and syria, he are ggued for bombing of ass held by isis. I would bomb the hell out of the oil fields. I wouldnt send many troops. You wont need them by the time i got finished. Reporter he favors renewed relations with cuba though he insists there and everywhere else the u. S. Is making bad deals. I know the best negotiators in the world. One for each country. Believe me we well do very, very well. Reporter of course there is china. Trump accused china of shady trade deals, manipulating currency and making off with iraqi oil so many times. An edited video has become an internet sensation. China. China. China. China. Mind you he is not really blaming the chinese. They have tough smart people. Its time that we have tough, smart people. Because were not going to be able to go much longer the way well are going right now. Reporter still the depth of trumps knowledge is unclear. He says he follows many military entanglements by watching tv. When a radio host asked him about an elite Iranian Military force, he seemed confused. He runs the quuchds force thousands. Trump later said he misheard. That certainly did not help answer a basic question lingering over his campaign. For as much as trump says about foreign affairs, how much does he really know . Anderson. Thank you very much. Lets dig deeper now, cnns david gergen, gloria borger. Donald trump talks about taking the oil from iraq, bringing in oil companies, soldiers, surround the oil fields take the oil and bomb the hell out of isis. Every military official i have talked to or former military official said this doesnt make any sense. This is completely. L yet you look at the polls. And gop voters in iowa, when asked who can handle terrorism better they say donald trump. Because he is entertaining. You listen to donald trump. He is really a bully. Thats what he is. A bully who says things he thinks sound great as if he were standing on a Street Corner with his crew. People who dont examine what he is saying they think that sound great too if he stood up. And said the answer for isis. Lets just turn the parts of syria to glass. Bomb them flat. Would that be good policy. A lot of people would say, hell yeah, that is a real good idea. Because people want the problems, the many problems in the world to be solved. He is saying, i can solve them. Look at me. Im rich. I can do it. It is essentially a reality tv approach to foreign policy. David, do you agree. In the hugh hewitt interview, trump said he would find his Douglas Macarthur in the pack, surround himself with advisers. Some reports advisers are reluctant to admit they might be talking to trmp ing ting to tru. His appeal is much more than entertainment in foreign policy. The muscularity and strength. The rise of donald trump is an indictment of the political class, politics and some of us in the media. People are so fed up. They see so much incompetence they would rather take someone or willing to take someone who is entertaining and exudes strength as opposed to somebody who is incompetent. I do think the standard by which he is booing judge e being judgc will go up. He cannot go on like this if he wants to win the whole thing. I think