what seems to be part of a suitcase washed ashore this morning. that part of the investigation. the source tells cnn that boeing is confident the other debris that was found, part of a wing does come from a 777, the same model as flight 370. that debris will be sent to investigators in france tomorrow. the investigation is separate from what we're learning about the u.s. intelligence assessment on the cause of the crash. cnn justice reporter evan perez, joins me now with that part of the story. so explain this intelligence assessment what it means, what you know about it? >> well anderson this is an assessment that was done by u.s. intelligence agencies and it says that someone in the cockpit of malaysian airlines flight 370 deliberately directed the aircraft's movements before it disappeared. now, this assessment is based on satellite and other available evidence and analysts looked at multiple course changes of the aircraft made after it deviated from its scheduled course from kuala lumpur to beijing. now, the analysts determined that it's most likely someone in the cockpit deliberately moved the aircraft to specific way points crossing indonesian territory, and eventually toward the south indian ocean. this was an assessment that was done for internal u.s. government purposes and it's separate from the investigation that's being led by malaysian authorities, which the fbi and the ntsb have been assisting with. >> and we should point out, this assessment is not coming in the wake of the new discovery. this was prepared a while ago, right? >> that's right, this assessment was done a while ago, based on pretty much just what the available evidence that the u.s. government has. you know, the only evidence they have is the movements of the aircraft and that leads them to believe that someone had to deliberately pilot this aircraft towards the south indian ocean. we should mention that the malaysian government issued a report in march that said that there's no proof of wrongdoing by the airplane's crew. we have a quote from there that says quote, there were no behavioral signs of social isolation, change in habits or interests, self-neglect drug or alcohol abuse by the captain, the first officer, or the captain's -- by the cabin crew. the hope here anderson is that finding this debris finds them closer to some answers. >> all right. evan, thanks very much. joining me now is cnn aviation correspondent, richard quest, cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien, and former faa investigator, david susie. so how does this investigation jive from the data that we already know that's out there? >> the important thing here is the assessment is based on that data. if we run the animation, you'll see the way the plane comes up over malaysia it's on its way to beijing, and this is the crucial point here. the site of last contact. it is at this point that a variety of events take place. firstly, acast is disabled. secondly the transponder is switched off. thirdly, you get the good night, malaysia 370. and that all happens at around 1:18 1:19 1:20. and at 1:21 the plane makes this u-turn. and as it makes the u-turn it flies back over malaysia and during that particular flight nobody notices. the radar doesn't notice at all. and what the intelligence assessment is saying is that all these events that move this flight and then crucially, as it goes over out of here this turn all of which is monitored by primary radar, not secondary radar, these various altitude changes are suspect. nobody really believes they actually took place. and then finally, that turn. and it's this long turn straight away down that they now say, when you look at those facts, when you compute that it could only have been done deliberately. and by deliberately we assume they mean me farsnefariously. >> and do we know thoung from the first turn the first mystery ow turn to the last-known mystery turn roughly how long that was? >> yes, this was 40, this comes about 10 past 1:00 in the morning, 20 past 1:00 it comes back and takes about 40 minutes to come back and at around 2:22 is when you get this last radar. and then this is very suspect. we don't know the exact route that it took but we do know it's seven hours later, that at finally 8:11 in the morning, that it finally does this. >> miles, i've heard you and richard having a very healthy discussion about this earlier, this assessment. you buy it and all along you thought it could be pilot sabotage right? >> it could be a pilot, it could be someone else. but it is a deliberate action. it's just very -- >> no doubt it's a deliberate action. >> yeah i can't come up with a scenario that would cause what appears to be a very cataclysmic event in the airplane that would cause all those systems to fail so suddenly which allows the airplane to fly along for another seven hours. that's the thing that's difficult to square. and i know richard continues to suggest that there's some sort of mechanical issue, but what is that mechanical scenario that makes that at all possible? >> what is the mechanical -- >> there are a variety of them out there. i agree, all of them have they have a weak point in them. every single one has a weak point, from fire in the bay, explosion of the oxygen tank that's also in that part the lithium batteries. there's a whole variety, a scenario of hypotheses. there's a variety of legitimate although as miles would point out, they do all have holes in them and the biggest hole is how does the plane keep flying? i can argue this either way. if there is a major fire how does it keep flying without falling out of the sky. >> david, what do you make of this assessment what richard and miles say, where do you stand? >> where i stand on it is there's nothing -- first of all it's established that there's no given yes or no. there's no black and white to this. but my best assessment is that there was a mechanical failure. there's a history of the oxygen tank in this particular model of aircraft that's failed before that's caused a rapid decompression -- well a break in the hull that would have caused a rapid decompression. this has happened before. it could have easily happened again. luckily, before it was happening on the ramp where it would have stopped at that point. there's history of another airplane where everyone on board the aircraft died of apoxia and one person stayed alive using medical oxygen and was able to make his way forward while the f-16s thought the aircraft was disabled followed this airplane and noticed someone was moving in the airplane. that person pulled the pilot out of the cockpit, got in the seat and was ready to navigate and communicate back to the ground when the fuel -- the aircraft ran out of fuel and it crashed. >> miles, why does that not convince you? >> well, in the case of helios first of all, there were radio calls indicating there was difficulty before they lost consciousness. secondly why the route changes? if in fact this was the ghost plane scenario in theory it would have flied the pre-programmed route to beijing. why would it have made that securitious route to the south? i'm sure you can come up with a scenario where they were trying to come back to a field. >> richard, you read the map here richard. why the changes? >> well both gentleman know the arguments and the way they're put forward. and the argument is it's actually flying back west where there is a maintenance base. something has happened here the pilot has turned the aircraft around. it's now flying west across malaysia. something could have noticed, but they didn't the biggest mistake of the whole night and it goes over panaang and at this point they succumb. this is the difficult bit, why it takes that hook around indonesia. >> and david, we should point out, the malaysian authorities did investigate this and they have determined according to them and their investigation, that their pilots were not involved in this in trying to bring down the aircraft correct? >> yes, that is correct. >> but they also -- >> that's a psychological analysis. >> sorry, miles? >> they also indicated it was a deliberate act. they believe it to be a deliberate act. >> you're putting words into the mouth of the report there, miles. what they said is that it was movement by a human hand. that doesn't mean it was deliberate or nefarious, in any stretch of the imagination. let's put yourself in the cockpit. you've gone and made this turn. the pilot's made the turn now everybody's dead on the aircraft. you've got one survivor. the survivor is looking out the cockpit window. what's he going to do? or she? continue to fly over where all the lights are, knowing this airplane could fall at any moment and kill people hundreds of people on the ground or do you find the less-damaging route, and look down and all you see is lights and stay above the dark and take it north. >> still to be learned, david soucie thank you. up next we'll go to reunion island with a report on new brae that's been found, thought to be part of a suitcase. and also a look at what's happening to the wing part. and a new look at that traffic stop in cincinnati that left an unarmed man dead and an officer charged with murder. what new body cam video shows and we'll talk to the officer's lawyer, ahead. did you leave behind something reliable? 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i mean if a suitcase washes up do they instantly open it up? is it -- do they wait for certain people to do that? i know the debris is being sent to investigators in france at some point. >> well that's been one of the complicating factors here is that of course when the first lot of debris arrived, people didn't really know what it was, and it was only absolutely luckily, that one of those responsible for the cleanup on the beach said he just got a sense that actually maybe this is something important. one of the first bits of debris had been cleaned up. they were moving a lot of that growth the barnacles, and the stuff that the investigators rely on to try to get a sense of where this debris had been. they'd already started dismantling that and it was just this one man who luckily thought, you know what this looks like it could be part of a plane. and he called the investigators in. so now there is still a little bit of that disarray and with so many people wanting to be part of the search investigators are having to reach out to people and say, if you find anything please bring it to us. and from here they are hoping to get it to toulouse in the south of france. we don't yet have confirmation that it is on its way, but we know that will be the final decision. >> nima thanks so much. with me again, cnn aviation analyst and pilot, miles o'brien and aviation correspondent, richard quest. this new piece of debris believed to be part of a suitcase, does it give investigators something that part of the wing does not? >> unlikely. arguably you may be able to spot something in it. it may have some form of residue on it because it was in the hold i've heard one argument. but first of all, we don't know if this is part from the plane. if it has a straight forward name tag or property then you can, or something, then you can very quickly tell. otherwise, you really have no hope of it. >> although miles, i guess i don't understand why they don't already know whether or not this flapper on this piece of the wing is from mh-370. i mean shouldn't they know by now, based on serial numbers on this wing? >> i am going to guess, anderson, they do and we just haven't heard it yet. but with all the jurisdictions involved including the malaysians which don't have a track record for being forthcoming, frankly. this might be a situation where everyone's saying well who gets to announce. >> richard, do you agree with that? it's very likely they already know? >> i would be staggered if at this point they don't know that this is -- but you've got to work out, the bea from france is now involved in this particular aspect malaysia is still the lead investigating authority, australia is the searching authority. they want to get it right. and then, of course, you have this criticism there's been about the way they've dealt with the families over this. well now imagine how they actually have to make the announcement that it is from mh-370. do they decide to tell all families first? simultaneously with telling the press? how do they massage and manage that announcement? >> and miles, does -- i mean if these two pieces don't necessarily, if they are from 370, don't necessarily tell hutch of a story about what happened to the aircraft do they then move into this area to search more fully for any other pieces of debris? i would assume they would have to do that no? >> i think -- whatever you do here you continue the underwater search off the coast of australia. that continues and that continues now with some confidence that a plane has crashed in the indian ocean, which we didn't know until a day or so now. so that's one thing we have to keep clear. it is worth the effort to put some aircraft in the air, near the location of where this debris has been found, to see if there are other pieces floating there. if there's one piece of that plane there, it is likely there will be other things floating whether it's a suitcase or where's the other flapper-on for that matter. there are likely to be other pieces in that vicinity. miles, thank you very much. richard, stay with us. still ahead, renewed focus tonight on the captain and first officer who were flying the plane when it disappeared. both were the focus of the investigation from the start. we'll dig deeper on what investigators have so far uncovered. why are you deleting these photos? 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did he disable the plane's communication systems and turn off the transponder? the transponder helps those on the ground locate the plane. if this wasn't just a terrible accident whoever did this never wanted to be found. randi kaye cnn, new york. >> joining me right now is gary cay, a clinical neuropsychologist, who developed a cognitive test for pilots that's used by the faa and airlines around the world. also with me richard quest. gary, there was, as randi said no suicide notes from either of these pilots found. i mean you look at the germanwings crash, and very quickly in that investigation, a lot of evidence started to come out about the psychological profile of the person responsible. none of that has emerged in the more than a year since this crash for these pilots. >> right. although we don't have a suicide note. still, i think, a lot of people suspect suicide is high up on the list of possible explanations here. and then with today's additional news of a deliberate you know, action in the cockpit, that adds to that suspicion. >> would you expect though if -- i mean obviously, family members say, look i never expected this person to commit suicide, or usually that's what people say. would you expect though, by now, for some pieces of data to have come forward about life changes. there's usually some at least signs that you can see in retrospect that somebody has some sort of suicidal idealation. >> you're absolutely right. when you're asking this question, and i'm recalling a similar question you asked me before we had all the story about lubitz and the german air wings, and i said i suspected more information would come and it did. in this case you would have expected by now that there would be some, you know, thing in the history, some conflict something mental health wise that would have shown up. it is very irregular, very unusual, very mysterious. >> richard, what do you make of this? there's no red flags that have been found in these pilot's background? >> you know i'm firmly of the view that it wasn't the pilot. based on firstly, nothing has been found. there's been four major incidents. silk air, egypt air, there's one lack and germanwings. and in all those cases, what happens is evidence is found, but the actual moment of attack or suicide is very fast. they get the other person out of the cockpit and the nose goes straight down. there's no convoluted almost bizarre setting of things and letting the plane fly for hours. there's nothing like that. and i would be interested to hear if i may, from the conductor, whether you think that is at all relevant. that because, normally they commit the act quickly, is that something that we should be looking up in terms of what happened here? >> well, suicide in general is generally an impulsive act. and it's something which occurs quickly and there's a lot of time to consider you can avert suicide. and i think that richard, your analysis is really on target because beyond even those crashes that you've just mentioned, there are others involved involving suicide that have been reviewed. and a situation like this has no occurred before. >> i guess the counterargument to that would be someone who is somehow unsure tentative in their planning debating whether or not to actually do this. >> i would agree with you on this except for one crucial point. the method of execution of this attack if it was, disabling the acorns, you don't do that overnight. knowing the exact point upon which you're going to do it between malaysian and vietnamese air space. the level of planning. and crucially, you had to assume you had to bank on the fact that you weren't going to be spotted as you crossed malaysia. and that was pure incompetence by the malaysians that led to that happening. zblz >> as always more questions than answers. richard quest, thank you. gary cay, thank you. up next donald trump's lead growing. he seems all be certain to be on the debate stage next week in cleveland. he says he's not doing anything special to prepare. is he underestimating the stakes or is this as he has said he just plans to be himself? 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how high are the stakes? because it seems like a lot of his supporters don't necessarily want to hear specific policies from him or care whether or not he gives out specific policies at least at this stage. >> i think they want to hear message from him and vision if you will and that's his strong suit. so i'm pretty sure he's just going to go right on being donald trump. he's not going to get into ten-point plans for this and three-point plans for that i wouldn't think. and one other thing i would caution, you know in the past we've seen debates where everybody jumps to interpret the minute the thing is off the air. and in fact the sort of impression of what happened it takes a while to settle in with the watching public. so i think we need to be careful before we jump to any conclusions, no matter what happens that night. >> brett, dana bash just talked to donald trump about his thoughts on the debate and i want to play some of that for our viewers. >> i have to be who i am. you know these other people i know they all have their debate coaches and they all have their pollsters and they don't say anything without the pollsters. i watched mitt romney where he locked himself in a cabin for a week and he came in for that second and third debate and he wasn't able to speak. i am going to be donald trump. i think if i'm not donald trump, it's not going to look good. i'll do my best. i've never done it before. >> brett, you know more about debates than a lot of folks. is that the right thing for trump to do? to not be reading policy papers? to not being trying to change anything? >> well, i mean i think it's curious that donald trump is trying to down play expectations on him, when he has made a living of upplaying expectations on everybody and himself. so i find it curious that all of a sudden, now he's a terrible debater, when you know he's made a living of being on tv. so i think the stakes are incredibly high for him. debates are a moment where audiences get to make head-to-head comparisons between the candidates, to decide not just who they like which is where i think people have been landing with donald trump, but also who's competent. who's ready to be president of the united states. and that judgment is a little bit tougher. and so i think that's why he's sort of feeling the pressure going into these debates and wanting to lower the bar on him. you take a person like lindsey graham who's an expert on foreign policy who has had years of experience dealing with those issues and compare him to donald trump and his experience i think that it would be very difficult for donald trump to have a foreign policy debate with a lindsey graham or several of the others that will be on that stage. >> i should point out, you're advising lindsey graham. donna, do you agree with all of that? do you believe that you know, i asked donald trump last time i talked to him, i guess, last week whether one -- if he becomes president, if he would change his tone. and he said he thinks he would, that what he's doing now, he's running in a race being president is something different. do you think there's a risk for him being on a stage that he doesn't come off as presidential? >> well absolutely. look the presidential temperament, his tone his ability to you know, convey his ideas and not just call someone an idiot, a stupid some of tin vek the invectives that we've heard. i think voters that are interested in donald trump are going to be listening to his message, but also look at the way he presents himself. his substance. and what about there's really any policy behind some of the things that mr. trump has been saying on immigration. so this is a very crucial debate for him. and he's leading the polls right now. will that transport into actual voters going out to vote for him next year? >> it won't be enough for donald trump to go on stage and just attack every other candidate. he's going to have to articulate a vision. he's going to have to articulate a message. and if he's unable to do that and if he's unable to do that at the level of specificity that's demanded from our presidential candidates i think republican primary voters the people who will be watching this debate will have a hard time seeing him as ready to be president of the united states. >> i really do disagree. i don't think they want you know minutia and specifics from him. >> but ronald reagan -- >> they got that kind of thing from jimmy carter and they went the other way. >> after ronald reagan failed to win the nomination in 1976 he spent years studying foreign policy studying -- and let me tell you, he may have been a democrat long before he became a republican nominee for president, but donald trump is no ronald reagan. >> the other thing, this is no longer ronald reagan's america. this america is more diverse, younger, and, you know, i don't understand how you're just going to preach to the choir without realizing the congregation has changed. so i appreciate the ronald reagan analogies, but donald trump is not ronald reagan. >> well the choir has beenis going to select the nominees to use your phraseology here. i mean he's pitching to the republican electorate first. >> that's correct. >> that's what anybody has to do. >> >> brett, what would you tell the other candidates about dealing with -- it's one thing trump has to do. i'm very curious to see what all the others have to do about donald trump. what is your advice to them? do they take him on? >>ening that's a great question. and i think the one thing that we have been doing or the media has been doing is we are making trump all of the focus. if i was advising other -- and i am. i'm advising lindsey graham. my advice would be you know, the two people that are most celebrating every day we talk about donald trump in the republican party are hillary clinton and president obama. and so my advice to any candidate would be you know, take on trump when he takes you on but don't make him the center of attention. this is about running against a president that has failed our country and a third term for that president who his secretary of state is running. so that's my advice to candidates to refocus the debate here. >> but the republicans ran that campaign in 2012 and look where that landed them. i think going back to the vision thing, what are you going to do differently? how are you going to pay for the programs that you are talking about, when mr. trump mentioned the voter security and building a wall and saying mexico will pay for it? so i think this debate is crucial, in sizing up not just who's leading the polls, but whether or not they have ideas that will take the country in a different direction in the 21st century. and i guarantee the republicans are going to come up short once again. >> well, it's going to be a fascinating debate no matter what side of the aisle you're on. donna brazile, jeffrey lord great to have you on thank you. just one week. up next with the fired university of cincinnati police officer who fired during a traffic stop said he did it in self-defense. i'll talk to the officer's attorney tonight. and we'll get a look at newly released body camera video from two other officers who were on the scene. 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[ gunfire ] >> now, here's newly released body camera video from two other officers who were on the scene. this could shed more light on what happened. the two officers had both been placed on administrative leave while the shooting is under investigation. you can imagine samuel dubose's family is heartbroken. here's his sister. >> sam would have never did to that police officer what that police officer did to sam. that's what i can tell you. sal would have never done that to him. he would have saw another human being. sam does not like negativeitynegativity he does not like violence he loves his family and he loves his children. and his children will not see their father. and they are breaking my heart every day, watching them. >> joining me tonight, the fired officer's attorney stewart mathews, also cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny hostin. mr. mathews, you say you were shocked that your client was indicted yesterday on a murder charge. what shocked you about it? >> i was shocked by the severity of the offense charge. i did not suspect that he would be indicted for a murder charge. >> because you think frankly, the videotape of the incident just does not rise to that level? >> well absolutely. in ohio the law says that in order to be guilty of murder you have to have purposely taken someone else's life. and there's, you know, there was absolutely no purpose or intent in what happened here in this case. >> so was -- i mean your client shot this man in the head. was that an accident? did he not mean to discharge his weapon? >> it was not an accident. it was an act of self-defense is what it was. he was being dragged by the car, and ready to be in his mind ready to be sucked under the car and run over so he acted to save his own life. >> i want to play some of the video from the body cam after the shootings, as other officers are arriving just for our viewers. >> he was dragging me. i thought i was going to get run over. i was trying to stop him. he was dragging me. yeah he took off and my hand was caught inside. i discharged one round. >> when he said that he was being dragged, do you believe that's what the video shows? because, it looks like it twists him and he's knocked away from the vehicle. is there any evidence he was actually being dragged prior to shooting? >> well i have -- the video is very difficult to decipher in my opinion, but i -- we will eventually have an expert look at it and analyze it but, you know i think there's a second body cam from an officer lyndenschmidt that i think corroborates the fact that officer tensing was, in fact moved from the location where the traffic stop occurred. >> but even after shooting this man in the head the vehicle continued, so if your client was actually being dragged -- i mean, your client actually wasn't dragged. he shot this guy in the head so the vehicle continues, so he didn't actually stop the vehicle, and it appears he fell away from the vehicle? >> i'm not going to argue with you, but i think this video, when you combine it with officer lindenschmidt's video, you can see he's farther up the road from the point where the traffic stop took place, and he's picking himself up on the ground. somehow he got up there. >> let me bring in sunny. obviously, a grand jury looked at this video and they returned this indictment. what do you make of the new video that came out. does i change your mind? >> it doesn't change my mind and i'm sure the grand jury was able to rue all of the videos and aisle sure that the prosecutors in this case reviewed all of the videos. i think what is interesting to note timing is going to be very important here. and the bottom line is when i view these videos it appears he shoots prior to the car moving. and that is going to be quite frankly, very crucial. i don't see the threat here that this driver posed to this officer. and so while i think his attorney is how every good attorney is, a wonderful word. >> >>smith, we would have not believe what we are seeing to believe this officer's version of events. >> the original police report about the shooting mr. matthews many have said a number of commentators and the like have said they don't believe those statements reflect what we see in the video. do you believe the statements are an accurate description of what happened? both the statements by your client and by the other officers? >> i do. and the reason i do believe that is that those statements are made right at the end when the car crashed, they didn't have time to come together and fabricate this. >> sunny, it's an interesting point. they're saying there wasn't time to kind of shape a story. these were utterances made in the motelment. >> the problem is this officer, or former officer's tensing's statements are belied by the very video. they just aren't true. >> but he says a closer analysis of this video, he believes the vehicle was moving before the shot rung out. >> then my eyes are deceiving me. i don't see that. the grand jurors didn't see that. the prosecutors didn't see that. >> mr. matthews, do you know how many times the grand jurors saw this tape? >> i'm not privy to what happened in the grand jury room. i saw the prosecutor's news conference, what i saw of it yesterday, totally unprofessional and i was appalled by the things he was saying. >> and there's also been questions raised about the level of training your client had as a university police officer versus a city police officer. did you know what the different levels of training are? >> i know at the university of cincinnati the officers undergo rigorous training and do continuous training all the time. >> mr. mathews, i appreciate you being on and sunny hostin as well. thank you both. >> thank you for having me. a quick programming note. stay tuned, at the top of this hour, a new episode of cnn's original episode of "the seventies." that's coming up at 9:00 p.m. and an update on the breaking news the new debris that could be found from malaysian airlines flight 370. what's believed to be a shredded suitcase. and what a u.s. intelligence assessment is now saying about the disappearance of the 777. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ (dad) we lived... thanks to our subaru. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. watch as these magnificent creatures take flight, soaring away from home towards the promise of a better existence. but these birds are suffering. because this better place turned out to have an unreliable cell phone network and the videos on their little bird phones kept buffering. birds hate that. so they came back home. because they get $300 from switching back to verizon, and so can you! verizon. come home to a better network. now? 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