today today from baltimore to new york city to washington d.c. demands for change but tonight, will it be peaceful night in baltimore, in new york and other major cities? i want to get to the streets. and you have new information about tactics as well as what's happening on the street. >> reporter: yeah don. i'd say a fairly dramatic draw down of the police presence here in an intersection where it has been most violent and this is the intersection of course of it pennsylvania avenue and north avenue. you can see here, there's a city bus that's been parked here and other cars have been passing by. police have moved largely to the side and some have pulled out. and what we were told by a police commander less than an hour ago was that they wanted a softer presence. they did that. they got out of the middle of the street and basically broke up their large columns of officers and went to the sidewalks as well and they vacated those areas as well and have a small presence here. and this was the scene of a worst violence in the city and my team witnessed a lot of looting, cars on fire, so it was very bad 48 hours ago. and last night better and even better tonight. the degree to which police have tamped down their presence and the degree to which community leaders pushed people to go home. and there were a couple of street scuffles that broke out but that was really all that flaired as volunteers got into it with some of the local kids trying to get them out of here. but right now, very calm here in one of the worst hit areas of the city in the past few nights. but we're hoping that this curfew that has been in place for a little over an hour holds p. and impressive how they have maintain advery low key presence here an hour after the curfew took effect. >> brian todd thank you very much. and jason, what are you seeing? >> reporter: we've been here at intersection as well. and the over arching point that needs to be made is that baltimore had a better day today than it did yesterday and that is what the city was hoping for. sometimes when you're looking at all these images and they're sitting at home watching the fighting in the street it's easy to get the wrong impression, so it's important that we get the right story out it there. they started johns hopkens university and they marched to pen station and then back to city hall and i marched with students nurses with banners, parents with their children and they were out here trying to get the point across that baltimore, despite what we saw at this intersection where we saw all this violence bespite the images of what we saw last night and some people were throwing bottles and rocks at officers despite all of that you can still have a city that can get hundreds of people together and can come out and protest and do it peacefully. don. >> thank you. i appreciate that very much. jason makes a very good point. saturday was not great, sunday was not great, monday was terrible right, but it is a better day than it was on those days and even yesterday when the city seemed to get it together. >> we're seeing progress. and what i noticed is this coming together of the community. you're seeing it on signs and social media and hash tags and the community has really come together. i see much more diverse crowd protesting peacefully. i see people helping each other and i hope that will continue. one of my concerns is when does the curfew end? what happens then? i know in speaking to some of the business owners because with the curfurks theyew they are losing money. i went to harbor east a neighborhood that generally make as lot of money for this city -- >> and they were really concerned. >> and so i think we're progressesing but what are the next steps. >> we hope it holds and over confidence is an issue as well. >> guardedly optimistic. and i think that's the tone that the city officials need to take. the community is engaged and working really hard, the resources have to leave at some point, so how do you keep that long-term sustainable change? >> we see these things and they seem to gain steam on the weekend when people are off and that report is coming out on friday. >> we don't know yet. >> we think it's coming out. the preliminary report. >> because it will be handed over to the government. that does not mean that we will all be flipping through a report. what we may see is having this new state's attorney come forward and explain what the process will be. i think that will really help quell a lot of the questions and potential anger that people may have by not getting answers on friday. >> i think that's so important and folks need to explain that now because if not, and they think there's a report on friday we're setting ourselves up for failure. because folks are saying can't wait until friday. it's going to take longer as they take a hard look at facts and circumstances of the case. >> it has been a timmaltuals time out here. and a prisoner told investigators he could hear him banging against the walls and that he was quote intentionally trying to injure himself. that is according to a document by the post. and he was separated by metal partition and could not see him. a family member of that officer who asked us not to use her name or show her face came to us wanting to share what the officer has said about what happened. this person said the officer did not ask her to approach us but she believes it is the right thing to do. we know her identity and relationship to the officer but have agreed not to disclose that. we talked earlier to her and here is the tloefsrest of the interview. >> yes i do. >> what would be the rooes reason for that? >> because if they come out and tell the whole story, then what do they do about all of the stuff that has transpired up until this point. there's been a riot there's now a curfew, there have been businesses destroyed. how can they go back now and say anything different? they have to let it play out now. it's a disaster. so why didn't the mayor handle this in a better way? why didn't she come out and deal with this properly. there is a state's attorney. just like freddy gray deserved due process, so do these officers. >> according to your loved one, what took so long to get medical help? >> they don't know. they have not discussed that. we didn't ask what took so long. i think the officers that chased him and handcuffed him and had him on the ground and he said that he was hurting, i think that they should know that he needed medical attention. shouldn't that be their call to make? >> how is he doing? >> how would anybody be doing in a situation like this? how would anybody be doing in a situation where you go out here you risk your life make a little bit of money, and then when something bad happens, nobody is standing behind you, such as your city that you've served? how would anybody be doing when somebody is dead? just because they wear that uniform, doesn't mean that they don't hurt or that they're not upset or they don't blame theirselves, what could they have done differently? doesn't mean that doesn't go on in their head it does because they're human beings they're not machines. they're human beings with families. how would anyone be doing in this impaceossible situation watching their city burning. >> do you think the city is racist? >> that's a fair question. are there some bad apples yes. but you can have racism and be black. six officers did not injure this man and six officers didn't put him in the hospital. i'm worried about instead of figuring out who did, that six officers will be punished behind something that may be one or two or even three officers may have done to freddy gray. nobody knows what happened to freddy gray that day, except freddy gray and whoever it was that injured him. >> it's a very powerful interview and she's very close to the officer, so she knows what happened in the back of that van and knows what happened during the stop. >> it certainly is and i think what's most important going forward, we know one officer has not spoken and certainly is his right under our constitution but what will be very important is that they are transparent and honest so that bottom line we can all understand what happened. >> what i thought that was also important and i said there's more to it that was not included but i said do you think it's racist and she said that's a fair question yes there are some bad apples. you can be black and be racist. meaning that no matter the ethnicity, that they can be coopted by the system and you become immune to it and start treating people -- and they fear their lives. every single stop that they have every single community that they're in they're seconds away from death at every single moment. >> law enforcement officers all across this world, they're ordinary people and the only people running towards the gun shots are law enforcement officers. we saw raw, hard emotion here. >> she thinks every single officer involved will be railroaded to make a point for the city and for the entire nation and to say, that this department is racist and they should be dealing -- >> i hope that's not true. i think the bottom line is the police commissioner and the mayor has made it clear that they hope this is going to be a transparent, thorough investigation, perhaps that's why it's taking so long because they want to make sure they get it right. the nation's eyes are upon them. >> that's what i said the first day on the air is don't take too long but get right. >> get right. >> and the city of baltimore under a mandatory curfew for the second night. our breaking news team coverage continues right after a very quick break. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ don't just visit orlando visit tripadvisor orlando tripadvisor not only has millions of real travelers reviews and opinions but checks hundreds of websites so people can get the best hotel prices to plan, compare and book the perfect trip visit tripadvisor.com today man: you run a business. could be any kind of business. and every day you've got important decisions to make, like hiring. where are you gonna find those essential people you need? 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>> is making sure that they don't fall into any of those narratives. >> and that's your greatest fear? >> it is. it was really hard for me watching especially that tumere rice video because he looks so much like my son and my son is goofy in a lot of ways and it broke my heart to think that one mistake could be the difference in me saying good night to him or me saying good bye to him. >> we've all seen the video of victoria say, listen to me get your but home. the president talked about, it's important for fiernts imparents to impose guide lines. what did you think? >> we keep our kids close. and if monica saw him, she would be out there. if high sister saw him, she would be out there. it's not acceptable for us not to go and get our kids. >> what do you think of that mom? >> i think in the contexted, it's better for her to go grab the son than putting him in a coffin or getting him out of jail. i'm a teacher, i need you to come into the school if i'm calling you, i need you to be accountable for your child. and she may not have needed to put her hands on him -- >> i think in that moment she probably did. >> i think the mother of me would have came out. >> my mother would have been out there with the strap and my dad -- she's a lioness. >> my mom was definitely one of those psycho moms. i want to see more moms out there. and that's something we were talking about before hand why weren't more parents out there. if you know what your child looks like with a ski mask on, then you know what they look wliek a like like with a hoody on and we were out in the community with these kids. >> since you work with kids why weren't more parents out there? >> that's a tough call. you hate to put any kind of excuses that matter -- hate to make the look like any excuse matters but fact of the matter, a lot of these kids are coming from single parent homes or homes where parents are working multiple jobs and many are coming from situations where they don't have a stable house hold maybe their parents are out drinking or getting high. but at the end of the day, we need our parents and community leaders getting our kids. >> monica i'll give you the last word but those pictures you're look at is from new york city where there's a large protest going on we don't have control of these pictures this is from our affiliate. and you can see people streaming through the streets of new york. as we talk about parenting in the context of these protests, what should we be doing, monica? >> i love to teach my kids how to think and not what think. they hold me accountable, so when my actions don't match my words, they'll be one of the first ones to tell me. so before we need look in the mirror and see what we need to do for ourselves and make sure we're consistent. my children will look at me and say okay you asked me to do that but are you doing that as well? so, criminal activity is criminal activity no matter who is doing that. and victoria was disciplining out of love and at the end of the day, her son came home. >> best of luck best of luck with your kids as well. and we want to get you back to the streets of new york. this is happening in that city a mobile protest going up and down the streets of new york city there was a protest earlier in washington d.c. and there is a curfew that has been in place for an hour and 1/2 in baltimore, maryland. tful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. don't just visit new york. visit tripadvisor new york. tripadvisor not only has millions of real traveler's reviews and opinions, but checks hundreds of websites, so people can get the best hotel prices. to plan, compare & book the perfect trip, visit tripadvisor.com today. welcome back tao our breaking news coverage. you're looking at live pictures from new york city. not sure which part of the city this is. we're unable to control the footage. a large crowd of protesters. we saw this same action after the death of eric garner and after the officer was not indicted in this case. and we saw these protests prop up after officer derrick wilson was exonerated and was not indicted in ferguson as well. and now this protest is happening in new york city and you see the number of police are on the scene trying to keep people in place there and to keep a handle on it at least 60 arrests, 60 arrests in new york city this evening. that is a different case than what is happening on the streetszstreets of baltimore. so far, not much this evening. not sure about the number of arrests. we were told 10 people were arrested yesterday for violating the curfew. but what you're looking at is just shy of midtown manhattan. i think they're just passing a flat iron and it's to the right of your screen. so that's what you're seeing is a large presence in new york city. new york used to dealing with this particular situation. and bring you new developments as we see them. and the mandatory curfew in effect are the second night in baltimore. and the public schools are open again today. we have a teach erer for baltimore public school system. i'm so happy to have you teachers here with me. you were back in school today, von. how did you address this with your students? >> today administrators and teachers took advantage of the opportunity to reflect on the last couple of days and so we list some of the issues we have in our city and we try to find what were the best solutions to those issues. the kids want to be part of the solution. they voice their opinions just like the adults who were saying they were disappointed afraid confused all these emotions just like the adults. so they want to be part of the solution and they have a voice that needs to be heard. >> any of your students involved in the demonstrations? >> some of my students said they were there but didn't really participate. >> that's what my students said. >> you teach elementary school. >> it's totally different from elementary setting versus the high school setting because they don't really understand what's going on and i was able to talk to my fifth graders today and some of them were actually scared to go to school today and trying to figure out what would happen next if they step outside of the doors, what would they have to see on the streets and letting them understand don't let this put toer erer ero much fear in your heart and we will get over it but it's a work in progress and they have to understand that. >> i want to get my facts straight here. freddy gray was a special education student and his mother said she was unable to help him with his homework. how often do you uncover those situations? >> they're not the norm but i -- i'm not all too familiar with the super intricacies of my student's families i don't ask those types of questions, so i can't say for sure. but the parents i have are involved and try their best and that's all we can ask for. >> weave are been talking a lot about parental involvement, and doesn't matter if they're above where they should be or a special ed student, parent involvement is the most important. >> and bringing the parents, teachers community, bring them all together that was definitely one of the major things we can do to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> is that the most important factor in all of this in how the change the future beyond what we're talk about dealing with structural racism and poverty, but if you have a young person and mold their lives and that does make a huge difference? >> it does make huge difference. i deal with a lot of kids that don't come from a home with two parents and some are in shelters so i have to be their aunt or that person since they don't have that at home. and we have to take on that roll of being their parent for them. >> i have a lot of students who we have numerous families scenarios and the power of what happened on monday and the power of the social media was the power that the students have regardless of anything we do that parents do and that's really powerful and oso i think we need to understand that as teachers in order to influence that power because we have by proxy of that power as well. >> thank you. i appreciate it. thank you for your great work as teachers. we're going to continue on with our breaking news here. the city of baltimore nad mandatory curfew for the second night. these days you may be hearing more about data breaches in the news. it's possible your personal information may be at risk. research shows that if your information is compromised due to a data breach you are 6 times more likely to become a victim of identity theft. now is the time to get protection. sign up today and lifelock will begin monitoring your personal information, including your social security number alert you about suspicious activity and if needed, take steps to help restore your losses. you only have one identity. protect it with the best. lifelock. will you help us find a house for you and your brother? 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were you surprised she spoke about this? >> i was surprised and pleased because it's not an isolated event in baltimore and we have to talk about the murder rates in these cities like baltimore, new orleans, and on and on. i mean we have an urban problem. and we have to look at our cities in a serious way and history so going to link what happened in ferguson and baltimore to trayvon martin to all of these incidents of white policeman beating or killing black americans and the distrust of the black community towards the police is just at epidemic levels and so i do think we need have this national conversation now. >> okay. so areevau, this is for you. douglas mentioned the murder rate. let's talk about it in neighborhoods like freddy gray's. the unemployment rate is over 50%. and the same kind of situation that existed in south central l.a. and in many parts of the country. what gives here? >> these are systemic problems that will take really long time to fix and one of the issues you're seeing is that the young people are saying they're tired of waiting. i was in the ferguson area and i talked to some of the leaders and they said, look we have companies ready to come in and give jobs to the young people but they don't have the skills p. but changing as far as the educational and economic system those are definitely long term things we need to work on at the national level but the young people are tired of waiting. they're taking to instagram and facebook and literally getting hundreds of thousands of people to the street and saying we don't believe you adults. we want change. they want their communities to be policed differently. >> absolutely. >> and douglas, i have to ask you, as an historian, you pay close attention to this and you mention how this is going to play out in hist rayory of the beating of african americans. how much progress do you think has been made even from the time of rodney king? >> there is progress but the problem is we love our police officers in america too. many feel they do a great job but it's not about bad apples, it's about a huge distrust and for very good reasons. in 1921 you had a tulsa riot there weren't cameras to cover it but rodney king and what's happened in baltimore, we'rer getting people with cell phones able to film these things so it's becoming viseral and therefore it's a national problem that needs to be prioritized. i think this became the number one story last year because of ferguson and the distrust of african americans toward police officers and what's happening in our urban centers. >> i resist the idea though that we have gained any measure of progress since 1992. rodney king was beaten on tape by law enforcement and now in 2015 we have eric garner choked out on video tape we have people shot running away from police ewe have people -- etc. >> and you see in baltimore, not -- >> let douglas finish because hes to the go. >> i wouldn't call it a night of riots, it's a protest. so i think public is learning how to organize in a way that they didn't after rodney king. there was an ugly spasm but since then a lot of positive things in baltimore. >> and stand by you're both going to come back but dugless is leaving that's why i gave him the last word. live from baltimore, a city that is under mandatory curfew for the second night in a royw. push your enterprise and you can move the world. but to get from the old way to the new, you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. hp helps businesses move on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come. hey mom, you want to live by the lake, right? 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>> i can't. >> that's just a ridiculous statement and ted cruz went to harvard like i did and he does doesn't make me feel very proud to say he's a harvard law graduate. i reject this notion that there's nothing that can be done about this distrust unless the big national or federal government comes in. what happened in l.a. after the rodney king incident was we got rid of chief gates, he was a problem and we brought in a chief willing to make changes and we created a civilian review board and started to changing the relationship between citizens and police in los angeles. >> so -- >> they can step -- >> i think we all agree that there needs to be substantive changes and some have to be federal level changes. we don't have an accurate reg stree of killings by police. and until diversity training happens -- >> but they go hand in hand. >> yeah. >> i want to play this. i want to play an -- particulate of an interview i did with a loved one, somebody who's very close to one of the police officers who assisted in the apprehension of freddy gray. listen to this. >> do you think this was racist? >> that's a fair question. are there some bad apples? yes. but you have racism and be black. >> meaning that even the officers of color are co opted by the system is what she's basically saying. mark. >> all right. so the first part i'm saying no to the bad apple part. we can't continue to frame them as simply a bunch of good natured people and there happen to be a few bad apples among them and that's not to say that at the individual level they're good people. it's something about the job itself that becomes an occupying force. they're an occupying force in the hood. >> quickly. i have to get to something else. >> i don't share that perspective as a whole. listen we're dealing with human beings and everyone is accountable to their actions at the individual level. >> i wish you could have made that face for me sonny. and live from baltimore. we'll be right back. t-mobile is breaking the rules of wireless. and the samsung galaxy s6 edge is breaking the rules of design. can't get your hands on it because you're locked down by a carrier? 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