Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20141004 : comparem

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20141004

Moved after spending days near the soiled linens that duncan was exposed to. Hazmat crews removed the items, but it doesnt seem they removed them as a whole. And it was one of the signs that so far authorities had been struggling with a challenge of a single case of ebola. Earlier i spoke with duncans stepdaughter who was with him as he became worse. His story, is breathtaking. As we wait for officials i want to go to Martin Savidge with the latest at the apartment complex where the man was sickened with ebola. And the apartment is now at least empty of people who at least were living there . Yes, that is right, john, all of this happening late in the afternoon, and much of it happening after it was reported it came on cnn, lets talk about the quarantined family. They now have been relocated somewhere. Authorities will not say where, but somewhere in Dallas County. It is interesting how this came about. Earlier they said they wanted to move the family but didnt have a place to move them to. That seemed to be real frustration. And apparently some family in texas came forward and said we have a home. Not just any home. But apparently a home that is isolated, gated, set away from the rest of the community that apparently they were willing to say this family could use, they wanted to make sure that the family in quarantine had a place. This is that place. Again, theyre not identifying where it is. But they are on that way to the location. As for the linens and mattresses and everything that may have been contaminated by Thomas Duncan, it is now said to be out of the apartment but not off the apartment property, per se. That transportation is still being organized. When it happens it is all supposed to be loaded into a trailer en masse, taken somewhere, and then burned. Exactly when it is going to happen we dont know. The final cleanup in that apartment still expected to take several more days. That is the latest, john. Is this a plan, a road map theyre following, martin because it almost seems as if theyre making it up as they go along. First the hazmat teams show up to take the towels, theyre told they cant go in, then they cant leave the property, theyre told where to go, then it almost seems like theyre making it up. Well, there is a plan, part of what you recognize, though, there is a plan that seemed to look very good on paper. But when it came to where the rubber meets the road those things that are important, the waste, what do you do with ebola waste when it is not on Hospital Property . Suddenly that was like wow, we need to figure that out. And they have figured it out at this point. The quarantine, many people say why would you quarantine four people who apparently were very close to this ebola victim. Maybe why not put them in a hospital facility and watch over them there . That never happened. Apparently, the decision was left up to local authorities, and again, it was thought if they were moved today they would go to a medical facility. So they moved instead to a private residence that was donated. It is a fair point you make, martin, but essentially they were moved at the same time as the soiled linens that they had been living next to for days. We are waiting for the News Conference from the mayor of dallas, any sense, martin, what he might say . Well, i think what were going to hear is of course what we sort of have been telling you. Youre going to get it officially what has transpired. And this is why it has transpired this way. There is a lot of criticism. People say you keep trying to reassure the people of dallas that you know what youre doing and everything is going according to your plan, yet it seems that there have been nothing but a series of missteps ever since Thomas Duncan first presented himself at the hospital, said he was ill, from liberia, came from an ebola hot bed, seemed to have the symptoms. Yet he was given an antibiotic and told to go back home, which of course was the very wrong thing to do. From there, why the linens took so long to clean up. On and off, the public said it doesnt look like you know what youre doing even though you tell us, rest assured we know what were doing. Martin savidge for us outside the apartment complex where over the last few hours there finally has been a lot of action, martin, our thanks to you. Again, were waiting to hear from the mayor of dallas any minute right now. Were told well hear from county administrators, there are several children affected by this. Earlier today we heard from federal officials who said in so many words dont worry we have got this. I think it is very important to remind the American People that the United States has the most Capable Health care infrastructure and the best doctors in the world bar none. That is president obamas assistant for Homeland Security speaking at length about how well prepared the country is for ebola. It does to many people seem, though, still an open question. So joining us now with the fact check here our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, you have been covering this for months now here in the United States and in west africa, as well. The administration tells us everything is under control. All going according to plan. But is that really the case . You know, i think several things have not gone according to plan. So lets just take one, there are so many different details here. Lets just look at one of them. So on august 4th, josh earnest at the white house says that customs and Border Patrol, they are carefully monitoring passengers who came in from west africa into the United States. Well, i came in from west africa into the United States on saturday of last week. So less than a week ago, there was no monitoring at all. I told them that i was a journalist who was covering ebola and you would think that would have been like ding, ding, ding, they didnt ask me did you get near patients or dead bodies . Instead, the official started to hand me my passport back and said oh, wait a minute, i got an email, something about something i was supposed to tell passengers coming from places like librak liberia, they all ck and said youre supposed to be monitoring your health for 21 days. I said what symptoms should i look for . They couldnt tell me what symptoms to look for. What is even worse, the two colleagues i traveled with, they were not told to monitor for symptoms and none of us were asked about our exposure to people with ebola. That is not careful monitoring. Once i said it on television, customs and Border Patrol is handing out materials regarding symptoms. But it should not have taken me to say it on television. No, youre right, but at least they did react, and thanks to you, elizabeth cohen, going there to see the epidemic firsthand and then coming back to explain to us what is going on. I want to bring in our senior staff writer of the dallas morning news. Also, bonnie castillo, registered nurse, and because it crosses jurisdiction, were joined by the former federal and state Homeland Security official who has dealt with a lot of these issues. Ju juiliette, you served in the Obama Administration preparing for situations like these. We have one case of ebola diagnosed in the United States. And we have a whole lot of problems from this one case. Is that concerning to you . It is, of course, i think in a contagious situation, as compared to a bomb, it is as much about competency as it is about the disease. People want the government to look and act competently. And we just saw slipups. Today i thought lisa monaco was masterful about patrolling the different pieces. There are medical pieces, historical pieces, and military pieces, giving the vision of the response that is very important for the american public. The problem is, if we keep having these data points that suggest that whatever the plans are nobody seems to be following them, people will start to be worried. And they will start to think that they are sick. And they will be what we call the worried well. They will show up at hospital. There will be all sorts of paranoia and hysteria, there has been only one case, so otherwise, well have far more consequences than what the one case has brought forward. 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Tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. Call or come in today for a free oneonone review. We know were not the center of your life, but well do our best to help you connect to what is. Le liber. Ebola in america, were now waiting for a press conference from dallas. The mayor there. Were going to bring you that as soon as it happens. We do expect some more information about that family that had been quarantined. Also some more information about the apartment where ebola patient Thomas Duncan spent several days before he was admitted to the hospital. Im joined by bonnie castillo, bonnie, before the break, julie was saying this is a learning process. We have learned from what happened over the last few days and some of the struggles in dealing with Thomas Duncan, the first ebola patient diagnosed here in the United States. Whatever has been learned at the top levels, though, in places like washington, do you believe the information is getting to the front line to the hospitals where people who may have been in contact with people, have been admitted . No, in fact we know it has not happened. There have been admitted failures. The disaster plan is only as good as the providers are educated and trained and aware of what should happen when our patients are admitted. And it was pretty clear that that was not the case. And in fact, it was missed and that patient was sent home. And potentially infected many others. So you know when we dont have adequate Education Training of all staff, it leaves all of us vulnerable. Dr. Yasmin, one thing i have wondered is i have looked at new york, from what is happening in dallas right now. Is there a communication problem with the cdc, the federal coordinated agency that is supposed to oversee incidents like this. Is there a coordination problem between those people and people in texas, the state officials who are supposed to have the handson involvement with the patients . I can tell you there is often a political situation when you go into an investigation like this. There has to be excellent collaboration at all levels. What is concerning to those of us in dallas, even though the cdc are here it still seems things that are going on are not according to the guidelines and protocols, the fact that the family stayed there and were staying there with the contaminated bedding and clothing, and perhaps not enough food or laundry equipment in order to be isolated. So a communication here is the key problem not just between the cdc and the state, though, we feel it is a problem between the state and the rest of the community. We feel there is a lack of transparency here. All right, hang on, dr. Yasmin, well go to the News Conference right here in dallas, lets listen in. Well wait for everybody to get here. The family has been moved to an appropriate location, the sort of a location that would be acceptable for my family or Mike Rawlings family, or your family to be in. There is room to roam there. It is an area that is inside the city of dallas. And it is an area away from other people. And i want to i think Everybody Knows louises first name. So i want to thank louise and her family for their perseveran perseverance, for their patience in a very difficult situation. For the bravery and the heroic way that theyre going about dealing with this situation. They are good people, kind people. People who care about their community. And theyre obviously worried about their own health, theyre concerned about your health, as well. And our hope is that they can have some peace and that they can be left alone for a few days, at least, in that undisclosed location. And our hope is that the people who live around the apartment complex that they were in, that their lives can get back to normal. I want to thank the owner of the apartment complex for their understanding in this. The vickery meadow association, Jennifer Gates who went doortodoor and was out there for us, our Health Department. Everyone who worked on this. Our friends in the Faith Community who made the move that we were able to do today possible. As well as our state and our federal partners. An update on the house is the contractors are inside. They have finalized phase one probably by now or will in the next few minutes. They will finish up their work tonight and then they will secure the building. Dr. Laky and the estate are working on a court order for the apartment to keep it secure and quarantined until we can begin phase two. The materials will be moved to an undisclosed secure area by the Dallas County fire marshal. Im not sure if that is still correct because my understanding was dot was going to get the permit here so we could get that taken care of. Either dot got the permit or were going the take care of it. A separate vender has the federal permit required to move the materials to their final destination. And apparently, we have been working with them over the weekend on that process. Our eoc will continue to be activated. They will continue to monitor these matters over the weekend. I want to thank my executive staff, as well, and our team in Homeland Security Emergency Management and Dallas County health and human services, who we stood up that ics model. And took command of the situation at 8 30 a. M. Yesterday, and people have worked very hard. It has not moved as quickly as i would like, but it moved as quickly as possible under the circumstances. So with that, youre brought up to speed. Im going to turn the mike over to david. Good evening, and thank you for having us. Im afraid my update is very short. We just worked on contact today. I think you have seen the new numbers, what we call the Contact Tracing numbers that went from that list of a 100 what we call potential or possible cases down to 50 and ten that we are now tracing actively. And the teams were out today working with the county and state. And that is it for us today. Thank you. Were making progress. The city and the county has stepped up at every opportunity to make sure this city is as safe as it can be. And i feel good about it. I feel that citizens are safe. And that were doing Everything Possible to make it a reality. I want to say thank you to judge jenkins. His leadership in the last 48 hours has been remarkable. And we have been proud to serve on his team. The movement of this family was a moving moment for me. Judge jenkins met them at their apartment. Drove them in the car down to this location. And i welcomed them and we both saw them say thank you. And it was an important moment, i think, for this family, for the county and the city. And i think for the citizens of this town. We continue to work closely with cdc, thank you for your effort. They were out this afternoon talking to all of the residents and continuing the communication about the facts of this disease. Remember, there is zero chance that you can get this disease if you dont have contact with somebody that is actively showing symptoms of this. There was only one person in this city of dallas that is actively showing. And they are at Presbyterian Hospital. And they are quarantined and safe. Were making sure we go through those 50 people to prioritize them in low and high risk in having the appropriate protocol to work with each of them. We want to make sure that you understand that we are educating and reeducating all the public with our 311 numbers. And to make sure that if anybody gets sick to please call 911. Our paramedics have been trained on this and well get to you quickly and make sure that you are taken care of. Now, the weekend is at hand. There is a lot going on. We just had the blessing of the animals in clyde warren park and a lot of people showed up. Tonight is football season, tomorrow is state fair. I want everybody to get out and have a good time. On tuesday night, were having the National Night out and all the neighborhoods are going to get together. I spoke to cdc and said is that safe . And they said absolutely. We have got to get out and show the spirit of dallas, texas. I want to have a personal thank you to the dallas press. Your professionalism and how you have handled this makes me proud. There have been these reports around the nation that dallas is fearful. And i have talked to a lot of people. Were all a little anxious. But there is no fear in our eyes. We will be safe. We will get this done in the appropriate way. And im proud of the professionalism that we have shown. Its very important that we get these kids to school and that is why superintendent miles is here to ta

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