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Video of two troops face to face. Their steps carefully co choreogra choreographed, before bergdahl was back in american hands, the taliban are using this as propaganda throughout the region. Well take a closer look at the video in a moment. First, the breaking news, what were learning about the armys initial investigation into then private bergdahls disappearance and the intelligence deal that led to his return, Barbara Starr has more. In the past few days there was a lot said about his time, people called him a deserter. Youre finding out the commanders painted a different picture of him . Well, that is right, there was an initial Factfinding Mission when he first disappeared. I found one source who knows him in detail. The source said his own commander his said he was a good soldier that he did what he was supposed to do. At some point the other troops in the unit reported that bergdahl appeared bored and started saying things about wanting the unit to do more. That he thought the unit was too passive. But here is Something Else that is quite interesting. The troops also reported that bergdahl had left indeed the unit once before, that he had gotten outside the wire. Well, how did that happen . And what does that say about unit security . Because if bergdahl could slip past the wire that also means that the taliban may have been able to find a way to get in. What type of security . What type of oversight. What kind of command was in this unit. These questions are likely to start being raised, anderson. The bottom line is there is still a lot we dont know exactly about the circumstances that led up to this and also about his actual departure. You are also learning there might have been growing concern about his health and safety in the videos. That is right, there were two videos released, one played for Congress Earlier today. Sources familiar with the content tell us the videos do in fact show him in declining health. That, plus there was additional intelligence, were not being told what it was but it was briefed to defense secretary chuck hagel in the last several days. It led to a great deal of concern, were told about his declining health and his safety. Officials saying that as the u. S. Was beginning to draw down troops in afghanistan, they were becoming very concerned that bergdahl would be seen by the taliban as not such a valuable hostage anymore. What do you hear about the taliban video showing the handoff to bergdahl to special forces . I imagine it is a topic of interest to the pentagon. It is of course topic number one in the pentagon. People are looking at bergdahl and there is a lot of humanitarian concern about this mans situation. But they are looking at those special Operation Forces coming off the helicopter. These guys are the real deal. They were either s. E. A. L. Team 6, maybe army delta, the kind of team that works on this type of operation. They got right off the plane, walked straight towards the taliban. They were in control, they knew what they were doing, it was choreographed. They were seen as the real deal, anderson. You see one officer, working backwards, not turning his back on the taliban, and also another guy sort of patting down bergdahls back, taking him to the chopper. They give him a more thorough search, in case of any issue. One of the officers there started to work backward, they walked him toward the chop per, Barbara Starr, appreciate the update, there is more footage of bergdahls return seen in the afghanistan province. We have added the sub titles, this is being seen around the entire region, lets take a look. When we got to the area we first saw two big planes roaming over our head. Then three helicopters came to the area and landed only 15 meters. Our arrangement was that once the helicopters are on the ground three people from the other side would get off the helicopter and three from our side including the two. We waited in the area for around ten minutes before the helicopters arrived and there were 18 muhadin. We told them that once they arrive in the area we would be having a white flag, when they landed they were too afraid and worried that they shook hands only with two people. We handed them over, the american soldier who was captive with us and then they didnt spend any time on the ground, and in hurry they ran back to the helicopter. They first asked us about the Health Condition of the captive and told us to tell them the truth if he was not well, but he saw him that he was fine and we told them that. When he first saw the helicopters he became very happy. But they left very quickly and we didnt get the time to convey them our messages. We were given shoorns by our leaders that nothing would take place. But we took our armed friends there only for the safety of ourselves because you never can trust your enemy. It is fascinating to hear their Vantage Point on this. It is being used by the taliban as propaganda. It is the only video we have of the first moments of bergdahls freedom. Jim sciutto has more. Reporter in the eightminute taliban propaganda video it contains intriguing clues about Sergeant Bowe bergdahl, his taliban captors and his american rescues. A thin, aging bergdahl blinks repeatedly, signs his eyes were unused to Natural Light or signs of emotion. At one point, bergdahl manages a brief, awkward smile, evidence of happiness or nervousness, one taliban taps him on the shoulder and says dont come back to afghanistan, next time you wouldnt make it out alive. A taliban narrator sets the scene. We waited in the area for around ten minutes before they arrived. There were around ten mujadin around and we had them on the peaks around the area. He is carrying a white plastic bag, the contents unknown. Then, the unprecedented meeting between the taliban and u. S. Special forces fighters. Handshakes, one places his hand on his chest, a sign of respect. The taliban narrater discusses what he heard. They told them to tell us the truth if he was not well. But we saw that he was fine and told them that. The soldiers wave, one keeping his eyes locked on the taliban even as he walks backwards. Bergdahl keeps his eyes focused straight ahead. He is stumbling, the legs of a man repeatedly shackled or just a nervous walk around the rocky terrain. At the helo, he is caused once again about a possible booby trap. The black hawk helicopter disappears. U. S. Officials say dont read too much about bergdahls physical appearance in this video. They say two are earlier proof of life video they received showed several signs of his declining health and that was enough to accelerate this exchange. Well, between the video, details about Sergeant Bergdahls time in captivity, and the cries to free him. Former navy s. E. A. L. Commander joining us, and former hostage worker. And he managed to escape and was with the new york times, now with reuters. David obviously didnt go through a swap like this. But what do you see when you see the blinking, and the light . The blinking seems natural, they show him, that is how they moved me around. They always had a turbin or a cloth or bag over my head when they moved me. I think he was laying down in the back of the truck, he sat up. They took the bag off. I thought his walk looked good. And dressed the way you were dressed. I think they bought him new clothes. What people were right about, i think the taliban knew this deal was in the works. So there was a period when there was a decline in his health, they might have been treating him better, they gave him new clothes to make him look better and new clothes. He smiles because this is the moment he has been waiting for, for five years. The taliban themselves say that Bowe Bergdahl was thrilled to see an american helicopter. The men who walked up to retrieve bergdahl really were not wearing uniforms, there is a very important reason for that you said. Oh, sorry i thought you were addressing that back to david. No, that is okay. Yeah, of course, theyre going to be dressed theyre not going to be dressed in uniform. You have to understand this is one of the most tenuous moments, had the american soldiers are trying to recover this downed pilot or missing bergdahl. They want to be as nonthreatening to the turnover piece. So there is a flip side to it, obviously they dont look like theyre threatening but you can guarantee these guys are armed to the teeth and are ready to respond. You can see it in the demeanor in the way they approached the caug helicopter. And the overhead support was there and if the situation turned for the worse they really would have been able to respond immediately. And you really get a feeling of how tense the exchange is, the quick bag search of bergdahls bag and the full body search as he steps into the helicopter. They have no idea if he could have been wired with an explosive device. Yeah, of course. That has to be a fear that they were going to be walking into an ambush. We had cases of that in iraq. They would get a report there was a hostage in a certain house, we would send command forces and there were ieds imbedded in the walls. So of course they walked up, gave a cursory search to make sure he was not wearing a vest and then a more thorough search to make sure he was not wearing a bomb or a weapon. They do this in all situations, not just with bergdahl but part of the recovery mission, they have to make sure they dont harm the hostage and the rescuers themselves. Peter we talked about the possible deal with the taliban. It is fascinating to see the taliban and the u. S. Military coming face to face as a result of this more limited deal. Yeah, and you know, combat troops as you know, anderson are going to be pulled out in 2014. There was a prisoner of war exchange, there are 18 afghans in guantanamo. If were not in a state of war as a leader or military matter you can imagine there will be other releases and probably less controversi controversial. Because the other 18 that are still in did play leadership roles in the taliban. David, i know you wanted to come in, and sort of the homeland comparisons that some are making, do you feel there is an undercurrent of i dont know if it is antimuslim sentiment, but how do you see the reaction going on . It is strange today, because this scene reminded me of my captivity, and it reminded me of my situation, others saying why is he blinking . Or smiling, i think that is unfair to bergdahl. People dissected his fathers beard. He grew that in solidarity with his son. The family is christian, there is a rumor the bergdahls were muslim, that is totally false. It is disturbing. The problem is not islam or a serious force that brainwashes people, it is violent extremists. Peter, i know you have had contact with bergdahl. Do you think the theories are premature. It does seem like we dont know the full details of exactly what happened to this young soldier. Yeah, well, i mean you know one thing that was very interesting. The wikileaks cables that talk about what happened. There is very conflicting information. There are some suggesting he was taken while he was on the latrine, some suggested he wandered off. It is not at all clear. These are conflicting reports. His dad was a very smart guy and obviously knew better than anybody else what happened to his son. He wanted to find out what was the mind set of these people who were holding his son in a way to kind of understand him. As the negotiation went forward he felt it was useful information to know. Peter, it is good to have you on. A quick reminder, make sure you set your dvrs so you can watch ac360. And more on what was said in the classified briefing on capitol hill. Well get more reports, later on the unconventional upbringing for Bowe Bergdahl and the soldier he became. Hey. Im ted and this is rudy. Say hi rudy. [ barks ] [ chuckles ] id do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. Thats why im so excited about these new milkbone brushing chews. Whoa, im not the only one. Its a brilliant new way to take care of his teeth. Clinically proven as effective as brushing. Ok, here you go. Have you ever seen a dog brush his own teeth . The twist and nub design cleans all the way down to the gum line, even reaching the back teeth. They taste like a treat, but they clean like a toothbrush. Nothing says you care like a milkbone brushing chew. [ barks ]. 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And were told just how dangerous they are, so the proof of life video that has not been made public were told is one of the reasons that the administration felt it needed to act urgently. Do we know what it shows . Well, anderson, the proof of life video was recorded apparently at the time of South African president nelson mandela. Bergdahl was gaunt and had a difficult time speaking. The Administration Officials used that video to present the fact they thought bergdahl may be in failing health. And democrat senator joe manchin who came from the meeting said they looked at it and said he well might have been drugged at the time the video was recorded, anderson. And we just heard john mccain, based on what they just heard they blasted the administration. Seems like no democrats came out to defend the administration. Is the party on its heels . No party member came out to defend the administration on camera. There were some that talked about it. Senator Richard Durbin came out of that meeting more supportive after that meeting. But a lot of democrats didnt speak for the camera. As you might expect, more republicans were critical. As you might expect, senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said he was offended that they tried to make the case that releasing the five taliban leaders may be seen in some way as a gesture of good will or reconciliation in postwar afghanistan. Listen. That the theory was that if we traded these guys that would show the moderate taliban have clout. They have got our guys home. You dont need to resort to violence to meet your goal. Well, what is the goal of the taliban . To lay down their arms and pledge allegiance to the constitution of afghanistan . This is complete indefensive theory. It appears the administration didnt move the ball much. All right, joe, appreciate the update. Given the revelations and the increasingly toxic cloud surrounding this administration, and the fact this is an Election Year you can see how it became a headache to the white house. And senior Political Writer for politico,. Com is here with us. We were told that four of these five guys are extremely dangerous, what do you make of it . Well, it certainly deepened the critics outrage of the president. Because there are also other sources that this arrangement is very flimsy, the expectation is it is really a dangerous one. And now were hearing well be back in the fight very quickly and that means trouble in afghanistan. But there was good news, i thought from the reaction of senators tonight for the white house. Political good news. And that is that the reaction seemed to break along party lines. Yesterday as you know, senator Dianne Feinstein complained they were not notified. Others said well, we saw the video and had he looked sick and basically we believe the administration did the right thing. That is very consistent with what maggies fpolitico reporte tonight, they said the republicans will never be satisfied with anything, theyre just hypocrites. They said earlier they might support Something Like that. Lets turn it into a partisan battle. That might help the white house in terms of political fallout. And megan, that is their strategy now . Yes, that is true, they were switching from what people would overwhelmingly see the good here. A couple of steps, including the rose garden meeting with the reporters was probably illadvised. They thought this would be a good way to deflect the criticism. That is not how it played out. That was part of the reason they had the rose garden, the bergdahls into the rose garden, they knew there would be criticism but thought to humanize it. They thought it would give a human face on what it all meant. Here are hparents, were talkin about the reaction, the breadth of the reaction, they underestimated the scope of the animosity of the president and it happened here. And david, campaigning is one thing, ruling is something very different. It is this is an organization, the obama team has been much better in campaigning than organizing. It is striking to me to go back today to read the Rolling Stone piece, about michael hastings, and he

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