Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20120424 : comparem

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20120424



cartagena. that's where we find drew griffin now. you've been down there all weekend. what's the latest? >> reporter: this woman, her name is dania suarez. 24 years old, anderson. single mother of a young son. the young son goes to school. she herself goes to english-speaking class. we went to the apartment where she lived. it's down a dirt alley, a middle class neighborhood, a gated community. her neighbors were -- quite frankly they were stunned that this was the woman involved with this scandal. they called her a model citizen of her gated community and had no idea how she made a living. but they do say that this woman they saw in their local newspaper is the woman who lived in the apartment. a couple days ago somebody came to the apartment and removed some suitcases. she has not been seen at her home since this news broke. >> what do we know about what took place that night? >> there's rumors flying all over cartagena. that's because there's been no official explanation from the police here, no police report we could get our hands on. so we are getting our information from hotel security staff, one member of the staff, and a cab driver. both of them would not go on camera. the cab driver says that he is the one who drove dania suarez back to that apartment we just showed you after this event. he says that what she relaid to him was there was this dispute in the hotel. she was locked out of the hotel room after this man would not pay the money she was asking or any money. she had police intervene. colombian police in that hallway trying to reach some sort of settlement. it was during this negotiation period that other secret service agents came out of their rooms, pooled their money together and gave this money to the woman, enough to basically get rid of her. the agent who hired her, i guess you would have to say, would not come out of that room. that is how this whole thing began. it was just an argument over pay. she did not get what she wanted and she demanded payment. >> there's also now reports she's trying to sell her story. is that true? >> reports only. we've been trying to reach her attorney, his name is marlon betancourt. he has not been answering his calls. we know that he is the attorney from associates in his office. they wouldn't confirm or deny that she is trying to sell it. rumor is -- well, there's speculation anywhere from $40,000 to $25,000 is being asked. but again, we have not have direct contact with this woman miss suarez or her attorney in this. >> and how common is prostitution in cartagena? >> it's known for it, quite frankly. the sex tourist trade here is very popular. and i can tell you just from being here the last three or four days, if you walk anywhere at night near a nightclub or in the old city where a lot of these clubs are, you're going to be approached just about on every corner. a young man asking you if you're looking for a chica, if you're looking for girls and pointing you to back doors here and there in the old city where you can find what you're looking for, is what they've told us. we also know that a lot of single scantily clad women hang out in the discotheque where these secret service men were partying. it's common here. not shocking to the colombians that the americans were looking for sex. what's shocking to the colombians is what's shocking to the u.s. is that these men assigned to protect the president of the united states were out bringing prostitutes back to their hotel room just before the president's arrival. possibly opening the door for a security breach. the white house insists there was no security breach. but certainly opened the door for that possibility. >> then to argue over a price, it seems so monumentally stupid at the very least. >> it would be nice to get the facts of what the price was. we've heard that she was quote, unquote going to charge $800. that seems like an outrageous price. the going rate here is from $100 to $200. i'm beginning to wonder if there was a communication error. but certainly it's going to be hard to understand or have this secret service agent once he's identified explain to not only his family and his friends but the other secret service agents that were involved just what the heck were you thinking when you decided you weren't going to pay this woman. >> drew, appreciate the reporting. thanks. shocker today in the trayvon martin case. late this afternoon just hours after the city of sanford announced a separation agreement with the police chief, bill lee, that including his offer to resign. sanford city commission voted to not accept it. this is the same city commissioner that voted no confidence in the handling of the investigation. sanford mayor called for an outside investigation saying he's neither ready for the chief, chief lee, to return nor ready to show him the door. others were more outspoken. >> chief lee is paying for the sins of past police officers. police chiefs. he has been here -- he has been in office ten months. how do you steer a boat that big, mr. mayor? how do you steer a boat in ten months to a complete turnaround? you don't. >> city commissioner mahany also saying quote, i do not feel that sanford needs healing. and quote, you think i'm a racist? bring it on, unquote. benjamin crump had this to say. quote, if chief bill lee recognized that his resignation would help the start of healing in the sanford, city leadership should have accepted it in an attempt to move the city forward. all this started the day with george zimmerman leaving the jail. that's him on the left. he was wearing a bulletproof vest. their destination obviously unknown. this could be the last we see of george zimmerman for awhile. his attorney today entered a not guilty plea on his behalf. i spoke with mark o'mara late this afternoon. your client was released after making bail around midnight last night. how is he doing? >> he's doing well. he's very glad to be out. trying to get settled in. still worried about his safety, but talking to his family and feeling much better than being in. >> there were reports he'd received death threats, that he was wearing a bulletproof vest as he left the jail. it looks like he was wearing a vest. can you confirm that? >> he was. he was wearing a bulletproof vest and he has received threats through the internet. there's been a lot of chatter lately about his release. that's concerning him and us. >> is he under police protection now? >> actually, no. police protected him while he was in jail. while in seminole county. but he's sort of on his own with his own protection at this point. >> so i obviously can't reveal where he is, nor would you, can you say if he's in the state of florida and if he plans to stay in the state? >> really couldn't say. we have actually several locations we're going to be moving him from just to maintain his safety and security. >> how is that being paid for? is that money raised from the website he set up? how is that paid for? >> actually, that's from the family. we've not raised any money or at least i haven't removed any money from whatever accounts are out there. we really haven't gained control over them yet. will at some point take the time to do that. wherever the money may be, still is. >> do you know how much money's been raised by that website he set up? >> i got a note from somebody who seemed to have control over one that there was $700 or $800 in it. i heard a couple thousands in another one. i don't know who's monitoring them or who's handling them or if anyone is taking money out. i don't think so, but just haven't taken that on yet with everything else going on. >> how are you communicating with him? in person or over the phone? >> over the phone. he's not here. >> right. during his bond hearing on friday, zimmerman apologized to the martin family. i spoke to some of the -- to benjamin crump that night who called the apology self-serving. whose idea was it to apologize? >> well, it was george's idea to want to apologize. i tried to coordinate it. i communicated with the family a couple times saying he wanted to do it privately and confidentially. those communications weren't responded to directly so i was a bit frustrated. i now understand better the martin family position which is that i guess there was a press release within which they said they didn't want to have the apology now. i was never made aware of that. i think it was thursday night. by the time friday night came around, we made the final decision to have him do the apology. had i known, had george known the family didn't want it, we never would have done it. the suggestion that it was to get a bond just isn't accurate. we were getting a bond with or without the apology. it was done solely upon the request of mom, miss fulton, in a previous appearance she had made. >> a number of legal analysts who watched the proceedings on friday were critical of the prosecution. and their performance. in fact mark geragos on my program called it abysmal. i want to play something from last week's hearing for our viewers. >> do you know who started the fight? >> do i know? >> right. >> no. >> do you have any evidence that supports who may have started the fight? >> no. >> i think a lot of people were surprised that prosecution's investigator has no idea who started the altercation. do you think the prosecution came off as unprepared? >> well, it was a bit unique to handle a bond motion in this way. to in effect turn it into a discovery process. so in one sense, they may not have been prepared for an examination. on the other hand he is the case agent. so he would know the case seemingly as best as anyone. i think he was telling the truth. i think today they have no evidence as to who started the fight. and no evidence to contract george's position he was going back towards the car. and those are two very, very relevant facts in this case particularly with the charge. >> after you saw the prosecution friday, are you more confident, less confident, or about the same in your case? >> i'm going to be very conservative. no more or less confident. i guess the same. they have not shown me their discovery. i'm sure they have a lot more than i was able to glean from the examination of the investigator. so there's a lot more to go through. >> mark o'mara. appreciate you being with us. thank you. >> sure thing. >> well, let us know what you think about the case. we're on facebook, google plus, follow me on twitter @anderson cooper. be tweeting in the hour ahead. also tonight, the white house saying it is out of bounds but the issue of mitt romney's mormon family heritage is raised by a leading democratic governor. romney's faith itself was questioned by students at a conservative christian university. we'll take you to mexico for the true story of romney's ancestry and we'll talk with the governor who brought it up. next. 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>> i do. >> this is your home? >> it's my home. >> reporter: kelly, kent, and mitt romney's great grandfather miles park romney is buried here in this cemetery where he moved with his family. >> he moved here and he basically started this family tree that exists to this day. >> yes. >> reporter: many of the mormons who came here in the 19th century arrived to escape religious persecution in the united states. many of the men came with multiple wives. while there was concern about persecution, there was also concern about prosecution. there was no such concern in mexico. even though the church of jesus christ of latter day saints also known as the lds church got rid of polygamy in 1890, mexico at that time remained a polygamy haven. >> is there any polygamy still here? >> no. no polygamy in this area. >> reporter: mitt romney does mention his family connection to this place on some occasion. >> i'm not anti- immigrant. my father was born in mexico. >> reporter: but romney leaves out a lot. either preferring not to talk about it or not knowing about parts of it. for example, romney is certainly the only u.s. presidential candidate who has a relative kidnapped at gun point by a mexican gang. >> they hit me in the head with the pistol. i started walking back towards my grandson because i was worried about him. they hit me over the head again said get in. get in. so when i figured it was me they wanted, i didn't resist. i just got in the truck. they handcuffed my hands behind me. off we went. >> reporter: for days meredith was blindfolded in a cave. the mex -- mexican romneys paid a ransom to get him back. >> were you afraid they were going to kill you? >> at first i was. i don't know. >> reporter: mitt romney also hasn't mentioned or doesn't know his cousin's differences in opinion about his hard line stance on mexican immigration. kelly romney's view -- >> i would say tear that fence down. start working with mexican officials on trying to come to a common ground and a solution. >> reporter: kent romney's view -- >> i support building a fence. i support putting troops on the border if necessary. >> reporter: but the views of the mexican romneys for the most part appear more similar than not. especially when it comes to their religion. >> i guess being lds, yeah, i think god would be pleased with mitt romney being president of the united states. >> reporter: most of the mexican romneys ranch and work in peach and apple orchards for a living. they've never met their famous cousin. they think it would be great for him to pay a visit to see where his great grandfather lived. >> if you had ten seconds with him, what would you say? >> that's a great question. i'd say give it all you got, mitt, we're behind you. >> reporter: and that's one more not so surprising fact about the romneys of mexico. mitt romney has their support for the white house. gary tuchman, cnn, mexico. >> let's dig deeper now with montana governor and ralph reed founder of the faith and freedom coalition. governor schweitzer, thanks for being here. you raised a lot of light into this. saying that his family comes from a polygamist commune in mexico. i mean is that fair to talk about? >> well, people took it way off base. i didn't say anything about any religion. as you mentioned earlier, the mormon religion hasn't accepted polygamy in 120 years. as i said before, mitt romney or his family that i know of doesn't accept polygamy today. he took far right turns including with immigration. his opponents were criticizing him because he was saying if you're an 85-year-old grandmother and you didn't have all of your is dotted and ts crossed, and you're a great grandmother in the united states, you should self-deport. >> but in this interview you mentioned six or seven times that his father was born into a polygamy commune in mexico. it was mitt romney's great grandfather who practiced polygamy in the 1800s. is that fair to raise? democratics were outraged when people spoke about president obama's grandfather or great grandfather. >> people are taking this far away from where i was discussing. i was saying that mitt romney currently has a problem with latino voters. and it is ironic that his father had come from mexico. you would think he could embrace his latino roots. >> you were saying he was having a woman problem and he doesn't want to talk about the fact -- because of the polygamy connection. >> he both has a gender gap and he has a latino gap. probably wider than anybody who's run for president in recent years. so the point is how can he reach to the middle? now he's won the primary for all intensive purposes. now he'd like to get those latino voters back? how does he do it? or get the gender gap closed. how does he do it? >> ralph reed, do the governor's original comment, do you think he has a woman problem or a problem talking about his father's ancestry in mexico because of the history of polygamy? >> not at all. governor romney's already brought it up. you showed the clip. i would point out in the certain research survey that romney's already closed the gender gap to 13 points which is only five points from where it was when george bush won the presidency over al gore. i think really the obama campaign has repudiated these comments. i think it ought to be off limits. i think it's equally -- the award winning biographer that has a biography on obama documents that his great grandfather had five wives. his grandfather had four wives. this is the silly season. we've got 13 million americans out of work, anderson. we've got another 7 million who've given up looking for work because they can't find a job. and we're tweeting out photos of people's dogs and talking about what happened in mexico in 1907. and, you know, the governor has ev

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