but back to the ads and also keeping them honest, how clean are speaker gingrich's hands or rick perry or anyone else's. in his concession speech last night from beginning to end, speaker gingrich ignored the attack ads. >> they really wanted to get to the truth rather than the latest 30-second distortion. i would not have survived in this campaign against millions and millions of dollars of negative advertising. if it weren't for the thousands of volunteers who showed up and who helped us in every town and in every precinct, and every one of us that are members, what made part of these negative ads so shameful, every one of us should remember, this process survives because young and women risk their lives to allow us to do this. >> now here's a sampling of the ads that ran all over iowa in the last few weeks. >> has more baggage than the airlines. >> newt gingrich supports amnesty for millions of illegals. he was fined $300,000 for ethics violations. >> whatever you think of them, they're all missing the one thing we've come to expect from all campaign ads, the disclaimer at the end that says i'm, whoever, and i approve this message. instead, they end like this. >> we saw our future as responsible for the content of this message. >> restore our future is a super pack that supports governor romney. it gives super packs the ability to raise unlimited amounts of money. without saying who's behind them. critics also say they give candidates plauz ability. >> you're talking about how you had former aides running your super pack, spending a couple million attacking him. he said you should just tell them to stop the attacks against newt gingrich. would you do that? >> it's illegal, as you know. super pacs have to be entirely separate from a campaign. >> you're not coordinating it in any way whatsoever? >> my goodness, if we coordinate in any way whatsoever, we go to the big house. >> mitt romney on msnbc. restore our future was o outspending 2-1. it's hard to deny he has connections to it. organizers say the group's mission is getting him elected president. it was spearheaded by three former romney aides. campaign donors are also organizing the super pac fund-raising. governor romney they said, quote, appeared before dozens of potential donors at an organizational meeting blessing its work, end quote. go to restore our future.com, all you'll see is a generic mission statement, and a link to the anti-gingrich ads. none of this is against the law. gingrich sees it as dishonest. >> are you calling mitt romney a liar? >> yes. >> why are you saying he's a liar? >> because in is a man whose staff created the pac. his millionaire friends fund the pac. it's baloney. it's like his pretense that he's a conservative. >> that's newt gingrich, who said for months, and again last night, he wasn't going to go negative with some exceptions. >> we are not going to go out and run nasty ads. we're not going to go out and run 30-second -- [ applause ] but i do reserve the right to tell the truth. and if the truth seems negative, that may be more a comment on his record than it is on politics. >> keeping him honest, just like governor romney, newt gingrich has a super pac right behind him. there's a minute-long ad called the two mitts, slamming mitt romney. and strong america now also sent out mailers in iowa calling romney the second most dangerous man in america. both romney and gingrich have said the super pac should be eliminated entirely, but no one seems to unilaterally disarm. every major candidate is associated with one. rick santorum's backers are called the red, white and blue fund. all of it now with the supreme court's blessing. let's talk about the raw politics and what's happening on the campaign trail today. mary mad elaine and rich gayland and roy belcher. does newt just have a problem with the super pacs that have more money than his does? >> look, nobody can be more scrapingly mean when he's after somebody than newt gingrich. the fact is he tends to do it himself which hasn't helped him over the years. but his super pack pag, the spokesman for his super pac is his longtime rick tyler. the truth is those of us who actually agreed with the supreme court decision, because the first amendment and all that stuff. the fact is, everybody's got a chance to build their own super pac. my guess is it was somebody from a super pac that called governor perry today. and that was the enlightenment that he got. everybody can do this. and newt understands that this is not the girl scout cookie drive. this is big-time politics. he's been engaged in this for 30 years. he knows what's involved. and he ought to let it roll off his back. the problem with newt is he can't laugh at himself. >> mary, i know you like him. you respect him, as many do. can he turn things around at this point? >> well, he can, and will, and has vowed to continue to make an impact. what he has done is strange in that he's relinquished a winning strategy of being the most knowledgeable conservative for a losing strategy, which is to be the most positive candidate. one. that's not a substance issue. republicans want a substance. two, he is dramatically and directly undermining that strategy by vowing to rip off mitt romney's face. and three, there's no such thing, everybody promises to do positive campaigns. nobody ever does them, because there's no such thing. not on this planet. not in the history of mankind. there's a positive way to do a contrast campaign, and that's what the ultimate nominee is going to have to do. i don't know why he's fixated on this rationale for this candidacy, that he's going to be positive. it's a counterstrategy, because we want a fighter. we need a fighter. we know that cornell and his men are going to come at us with two-by-fours. we need somebody who can stand up to that. >> that's what mitt romney has said publicly about gingrich is that he basically needs to stop complaining, because whatever mitt romney's super pacs are throwing against him, it's going to pale in comparison, or equal what president obama's super pacs are going to throw against him. >> i'll say again, it's a curious strategy, but not as curious as his vowing to unleash the goddesses of fury in new hampshire, which will be interesting. the elizabethan strategy of revenge here. >> rick perry said he would be reassessing his campaign, think on it. a couple hours later he says he's back in. did he make the right call? >> first of all, i think i once dated the goddess of fury. but real quickly on the pac thing, anderson. i think it's important for us to understand what i think is a corrupting influence for the pacs. the ability for rich and influential people to spend as much money as they want, in any way they want. it absolutely undermines democracy. it gives the rich and powerful more influence and power over politics. and i think it's going to show. when you're outspent 30-1 by rich people who you have no idea where they're from or what they're doing, absolutely it's having a corrupting influence. i think we should remove this from politics. >> for unions, too, cornell? >> well, for everyone. you should not be able to simply spend -- write a $1 million check and start attacking people. >> unions have had those rules for -- >> no, they have not done that. they played under the rules that were there. the recent supreme court decision says money is now void. is money is now a voice, the average man doesn't stand a chance against the rich wall street guys. >> if that's the case, i want all of the e-mails i get from these candidates asking me to send $5, or $25, let's get 50 of those a day. >> it's not the $5 or $10. the super pacs are millionaires writing million-dollar checks to peddle their influence. that's not about the average american. it's corrupting our democracy. >> rich, what is the argument for the super pacs? >> it's that a donation to a campaign, local or federal, is a first amendment right. it is free speech. and the supreme court agreed that it is in fact free speech and can't be prohibited under the first amendment of the constitution. let me go back to perry for a second. i lived in texas for most of the '90s. the whole assessment thing, i get that. a guy throwing open the doors to the saloon, sitting down at the table saying, i just sold my horse to a guy for cash money, deal. that's reassessment. somebody got him some money and he's back in. >> probably from a super pac. >> we've got to take a quick break. lot more with cornell and rich and mary. stick around, everyone. up next, we'll finally talk a little bit about rick perry, but rick santorum, did what he did last night, what he did last night, we'll show you what he said. and where it takes him next. he's got strong conservative views. a lot of which stirred up controversy. we'll talk about how he plays new hampshire, and probably more importantly, south carolina. and hurting or helping president obama's chances in november. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. add us to your circles on google plus or follow us on twitter. also tonight, besides politics, we've got a lot of politics ahead, a royal mystery. a woman's body discovered at one of the queen of england's estates. whose body is it, and how did it end up there. details coming up. tylenol: sure. don't you? 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i would argue yes, it does. and he continued, in every society the definition of marriage had never to my knowledge included homosexuality. it's not man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. santorum said he wasn't equating homosexuality with all the other activities. but was trying to make a larger point about morality. >> i think basically christian teaching on the subject, that one can have desires to do things which we believe are wrong, but it's when you act out those things that is a problem. and i was simply reflecting that opinion. and that belief structure that i happen to hold as a catholic. >> reporter: santorum is a staunch supporter of vatican policy when it comes to conception. one thing i'll talk about is i think the dangers of contraception in this country is a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. a belief that may play well with many in the far right but might be a harder sell among other conservatives. regarding national defense, he is certainly the antithesis of a candidate like ron paul. >> we will degrade those facilities through air strikes and make it very public we are doing that. >> reporter: many thought rick santorum's political career was over when he lost by 18 percentage points in pennsylvania. but his star is once again rising. he hopes his iowa showing broadens his reach to new hampshire and beyond. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> back with our political panel now. mary, we heard rick santorum talking about new hampshire being different from iowa. is it, in fact? >> the way he expressed it, no, it's retail politicking. but he -- i think we might be overreading what happened in iowa. you recall on monday we discussed his cresting. and indeed, that is what happened. he came in at 25%. which was less than the others, not romney's. so he did exceed and definitely handled the expectations game. but we don't know if that's a real victory or the others collapsed. the reason perry, this leads to why perry reassessed, is what you've just done. santorum alone has not been through the political meat grinder. that's just a little bit of it. i understand him saying because i'm a catholic. i understand the principles. and the republican field is going to be hard pressed to come at him that way. but he has not been through this kind of scrutiny, which is going to put him in the same boat. we will learn if that, what iowa really meant, we do not know what iowa meant. which does not mean he has huge assets. he does have operations on the ground in new hampshire, in south carolina as well. but it's too early to make a prediction. >> rich, it seems like, i mean, santorum is hoping to be the conservative anti-romney. that's what he's running really for. not so much -- at least at this point a general election being able to appeal to a broader spectrum. he's just trying to win the mini caucus or mini primary. >> cornell and i disagree on this. i think that over time, both because of the organization, the planning and the fact that romney's been through this before, and we all know how important that is, you learn the lessons of running for president, as opposed to running for senate, running for governor. it's a completely different deal. as these primaries and caucuses begin to speed up, i mean, we know about the four in january, seven in february, 22 in march, 9 in april, they keep coming and coming. we'll see whether or not as mary said, there is the similar arc to the others, and he begins on the downhill slope or this is real. there's no way to tell. remember, all the others lasted about three, three and a half weeks before they collapsed. rick santorum is in about week one. he may do well, but what happens, for instance, if he comes in third in new hampshire. behind romney and paul. does that mean it's over for him, and we all trot back over to perry to see how he's doing today? it's very hard to tell where this is all going to shake out. we do know that iowa is not predictive. it has never been predictive. >> cornell, how do you see it? >> you know, i see it this way. you just laid out the case why perry is going to stay in, because you do go through the meat grinder. he's hoping he can last in this thing long enough to swing back to him. i take it from rich's old boss on this thing, and why folks want to stay in it. look, you've had the vast majority of conservatives at the base of the republican party take a good long look at mitt romney now going back to 2007. mitt romney is like the girlfriend that your parents want you to date and you roll your eyes and say, i'm never going to date that person, i'm going to look for someone i think is cooler and who gets me. and i think that's the fundamental problem is, they're all trying to vie for who's going to be the conservative standard bearer right now. and mark my words, and by the way, i said, i came on your program two weeks ago or so and said, i think santorum's going to rise here because of the evangelical vote here. i think if he can hold the evangelical vote, the conservative vote, he will do well. if they attack them like they attacked newt and don't allow that collar around him, it gives perry another chance, another opening. that's why he's staying in the race. >> interesting. >> cornell, do you think losing 65 -- 62-38 would be considered in american politics a significant loss? >> i don't understand your analogy. all i know is -- all i know is romney gets about 25%. >> but my point is that's what happened in iowa four years ago in the democratic side. 62% of democrats wanted someone other than senator barack obama. and guess who got to hold his hand up and take the oath of office 54 weeks later. >> but can i say this, it's not about numbers, and it's not about the ceiling. it's about the dynamic. and mitt romney has done something he needed to do, which is to show that the perfectly coifed can fight. he can deliver a punch, he has great head fakes. he knows how to get it in the arena. that's not something people are confident in before this exercise. >> right. >> so we should not look at the numbers, but look at the bigger dynamic of what romney is able to do. >> but you have to look at the numbers. because the major of your electorate doesn't trust him. >> thank you. president obama, key battleground states today. what he's facing there and beyond. why the election could be an uphill battle for him. covering the caucuses. got kind of odd last night. we'll give you an up-close look in the wee hours of the morning. >> are we all just giving up? 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