some pretty deep ties with the white house? and why is it that the company with deep ties to the white house, the company that just got a big contract for a drug that's not been proven yet, why is it going to make an 85% profit on its government contract? coming up we're going to talk with a member of the company's board of directors, a familiar face here at cnn. we first got wind of this story in the "los angeles times" but since then have learned a lot more. investigator drew griffin is keeping them honest. >> reporter: it's just another good business deal for billionaire investor and big-time democratic political supporter, ron perlman. this major political contributor to both parties but particular friend of the obama white house owns the controlling shares in a company called siga technologies, and siga this year won a sweet $432 million no-bid contract from the u.s. department of health and human services that even a democrat says is a little bit too sweet to ignore. >> how did this become a no-bid contract? was it justified as a no-bid contract? overall i think we need to begin asking some policy questions about the kind of money we're spending on developing drugs where the united states government is the only customer. >> reporter: democrat senator claire mccaskill is calling for an investigation. capitol hill republicans have already launched their own. >> the fact that the regular procurement process wasn't followed. that's something we definitely know. there's a lot of political connection there. >> reporter: first a little background. during the bush administration and following 9/11, the idea of terrorists using bioweapons became a real concern. among the threats, smallpox. it hasn't been a threat in decades, and even if it did return, the u.s. still has enough vaccine for everyone in the country. but what to do if terrorists somehow were able to release the smallpox virus before people could be vaccinated. siga, the company controlled by ron pearlman, says it now has a drug for that. a drug developed with a lot of taxpayer money and government help. but one of the world's leading smallpox experts, dr. d.a. henderson, says siga's drug simply may not work. >> the question is what will it do in the way of treating a patient who's had a fever and now has a funny rash that could be smallpox. will it treat the disease? i've not seen the data that suggests it will. >> reporter: that's mainly because you can't test the drug on humans without infecting them first. siga insists it has cured infected monkeys. but this is a story about contracts. and when the siga contract was being questioned last year, siga placed another democratic political supporter on its board of directors, andy stern, the former president of the service employees union international, a public workers union that put its entire weight in money behind presidential candidate barack obama, then used its political weight and money behind the president's push for universal health care. stern was named to the board at siga around the same time another company called kimerics said it too had a smallpox drug. stern was unavailable for comment. in fact they not only said they had a drug but it was and is a small business. and by the department of health and human services own requirement, the contract was supposed to go to a small business. that's when the department of health and human services did something pretty interesting. the government changed the terms of the bidding, making sure any company, even large ones like siga, could go after the contract. then health and human services determined that siga was the only bidder that actually qualified. >> do you feel because some very large democratic supporters of the white house, ron perlman and andy stern were involved that this has the impression of a political payoff? >> i'm not going to comment about people drawing conclusions about the appearances of this contract. i want to get into the facts. >> reporter: according to documents obtained by cnn, that's not the only question to be asked. because internal documents reveal a profit return that one health and human services official called outrageous. how much? on march 18th of this year, a contracting offer questions siga's return on investment, which he writes is an overwhelming 180%. he adds, i know you won't find a contracting officer in government who would sign a three-digit profit percentage. a half hour later, another hhs official, a doctor, writes back saying he fully concurs that 180% is outrageous and advises that considering all the money taxpayers have already invested in developing the drug, well, the u.s. government should get a major discount. but that's not what happened. instead, siga's ceo, a man named eric rose, complained in writing to the hhs contract officer about the government's approach to profit and asked that the negotiator be replaced by a more senior official. and that is exactly what happened. so what did the white house say? not one thing. they told us to get any answers we wanted from health and human services, the agency that granted the contract. guess what we found here. despite dozens of communication professionals on staff, not a single one would come out and talk to us. instead we got a statement saying the contract was awarded, quote, after a rigorous market analysis determined that siga was the only known company in the world with the capability to produce the required antiviral drug within the required time frame. as for that huge return on investment, hhs told us, quoting again, we can't get into the details, but the final rates ended up well within industry standards. hhs even told us that the change in negotiators actually resulted in substantial savings for the u.s. government. siga technologies got back to us in writing, telling us the negotiations and decision to award the contract were handled solely by career procurement officials at hhs who negotiated a fair and reasonable price. and that never at any time was any elected or political official asked to intervene in the procurement process by siga or anyone affiliated with the company. republicans aren't buying that just yet. >> you certainly can't ignore the political connections between the company and the administration. >> reporter: and in a postscript to this story, anderson, from the documents that we have seen, the ceo and cfo included in this contract bonuses for themselves of $200,000 to $225,000. >> drew, i want to bring in our national security contributor, fran townsend. fran is here not in her usual role but as a spokeswoman for siga technologies. she's on the board of directors. fran, thanks for being with us. you just heard the reporting. how do you respond. >> i'm glad we're calling it keeping them honest because there are so many factual inaccuracies i kind of don't know where to start. so, for example, the contract was put out in a competitive process and frankly it was clear that the government wanted it to be a competitive process. it was awarded to siga, as drew's package reports, and it was set aside because of the small business concern. they then went -- the government then goes out with what is a sources sought solution. the only one that respond is chimerix. they are not competitive because the scientist who discovers their drug admits in an application to nih which siga provided to drew that the drug, their smallpox antiviral, causes toxicity in the gastrointestinal tract, so there is no competition. and when the government finally awards the sole source contract to the only company that has a smallpox antiviral, what do they do? they also give a research and development grant to chimerix saying they want to encourage competition and they don't give at ward of the contract for the entire requirement. that is another 12 million doses of smallpox antiviral. they decide they're not going to decide that and give chimerix an opportunity to fix their drug so they can be competitive. so the government has bent over backwards to balance the need for an antiviral against competition. i sat in the seat when i was at the white house. these are difficult decisions. what you're trying to balance is the safety of the american people and competition, i think they did the right thing and they did make an award that allows them to stockpile some, while allowing a competitor the opportunity and they gave them the money to go back and try to fix the problem with their antiviral. >> i want to just point out that both these government oversight committees on the hill are calling these no-bid contracts. that's the language they are looking into and asking why it appears that the contract negotiations were that way. >> and you deny it. you're saying it was not a no-bid contract. >> it ultimately was a sole source contract but because there was nobody to compete. it was not a question of they directed it to siga. the fact of the matter was there was nobody with a smallpox antiviral that could meet the government's standards. siga had gone through testing in the animal as it's reported with monkeys. there are four cases of what's called compassionate use where they st-246 drug was used against humans who were infected with a virus who were cured. so there's substantial evidence in this case that this smallpox antiviral is effective and in fact the secretary of hhs has found that it's likely to feed fda approval and we're in the process of going through that. >> it's likely to, but in the company's own filings it says, look, we don't know if it works and we don't know if it's safe. that's why only the u.s. government is buying this right now because it has no commercial value. >> well, that's right. but what it requires for the government to have even purchased the amount in the awarded contract, the secretary had to make a finding that based on what they know so far between the animal testing and the compassionate use cases, it was likely to receive fda approval. by the way, what the piece doesn't mention is the fda advisory committee who are looking at this very issue will have an open and public hearing that drew can attend on december 14th. >> why would a guy like andy stern who has all these political connections, why would he be on the board of this thing? why would you bring in somebody like that unless it was to get influence with the white house? >> anderson, this is a board that's got doctors, it's got people with public experience, it's a very diverse board. but the fact of the matter is this may be the only thing in washington that republicans and democrats agree on. just this week the underlying enabling legislation that gives the government the authority to purchase medical counter measures of can which the smallpox antiviral is one, that legislation passed the house unanimously. >> i'm just not sure what the company gets from having a high level guy who worked at a big union that backed obama, other than that influence. i'm not sure what he brings to the table. >> anderson, i can tell you not ronald pearlman, not andy stern, no member of the board was involved in these contract negotiations and never contacted anybody in the government about this contract. the contract negotiations were handled by career procurement officials and the management of siga. >> fran, what does this say about how washington works, though? from the outside looking in, we've got very politically connected people to the white house and we have you yourself who was in the white house drawing up and drafting this very legislation that you are now outside of the white house at a private company bidding on. people tell me this is the way that washington works both cynically and not so cynically. >> well, this is fabulous. if i'm part of the washington revolving door, drew, i don't -- it doesn't work very well. i went into the federal government, was a career public seven and the for 24 years. i came out and siga wanted me on the board for the same reason cnn hired me and that is my expertise in national security and biodefense areas. there's nothing improper about that. if you look at any major defense board today, look at lockheed, northrop grumman or boeing, every one of them have men who are retired four-star generals or admirals who are on those boards. why? because those public companies want the expertise of retired public officials. and i don't see anybody questioning the appropriateness of that. >> actually we have on this show, and the watchdogs of government say this is the very problem, anderson, with a lot of these contracts revolving doors. i mean we have the government buying a drug that they can't sell to anybody else. >> what's the next step in the process for this? >> well, the fda advisory committee meets next week in this public hearing. chimerix will be at it. if they can get their drug together, they will compete for it. they will look at the animal rule and the testing that's gone on. by the way, we talk about a $433 million contract. if you look at the contract, you will see there are a number of milestones that siga as a company and the drug, sd-246 must meet in order to get payments along the way. this is not a guaranteed $433 million contract. >> we looked at the contract. most of what we got was redacted. let me ask you really quickly about the profit margins. are the profit margins accurate and is that too much for a government contract? >> the profit margins reported are not accurate. of course what they did, what was publicly available was take the 1.7 million doses and divide it into the $433 million on the contract. the government required another 300,000 doses and pediatric testing for pediatric doses, it requires a warm production capability so you can produce more. >> so what is the profit. >> it is competitively confidential and found by the government to be so, so i'm not at liberty to say. but we provided you, drew, with a list of drugs so you can see, even if you take the number that's out there publicly which is higher than is accurate and you look against orphan drugs and other drugs purchased by the government, it is substantially lower. and in the end, this is about value. and so i never got the smallpox vaccine because i am not able to because of my health and i would need an antiviral. if you're somebody who requires an antiviral, by the way, many people who did get the vaccine, it's no longer good, you would need it. the cost of it is fair and reasonable. and it's funny, the quotes from hhs officials about out rageous, i have to believe though i've never seen them were early in the process because they were very aggressive in the way they negotiated this contract. >> you can look at the full statement from the company on our website. fran, i appreciate you being on, drew griffin as well. you can check it out at the website. we're on facebook, google plus, follow me on twitter. i'll be tweeting tonight. up next, components take aim at newt gingrich. are they clean hits or below the belt. we'll look at his record. jam james car gil will join us. another deadly shooting at virginia tech university. let's also check in. >> jerry sandusky makes bail and his wife is speaking out. stay tuned to see what she's saying about the sex allegations now being leveled against her husband by ten accusers. that and much more when 360 continues. impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? 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surging at this point in -- before caucuses is one thing, general election is another. is character a winning issue for mitt romney? >> look, he's been stuck at a number for so long and everybody is coming up and they have got three weeks to go. of course he's got to do something. to sit there, he's getting ready to lose. look, gingrich has an excuse, he loved his country so much. if people wanting to buy that, that's their business. i'm not a republican. it's kind of weird to me. but if people want to believe that he did that out of love of country because he was working too hard, that doesn't fit in with my view of life, but again, i'm a democrat. so maybe we look at the world differently. >> ralph, gingrich said he doesn't plan to go negative. it's been possible for him in debates not to kind of get into personal attacks or attacking other candidates because he hasn't been a top tier candidate. everybody is now gunning for him. do you think -- does he hold up to that? >> look, i think anybody who's underestimating newt gingrich is making a big mistake. you know, this is somebody who in 1994 pulled off something that nobody thought was possible. republicans gained control of the house for the first time in 40 years. they passed the first balanced budget since 1968. they had the most sweeping reform of a major social welfare program, welfare, since the great depression and the new deal. they had the deepest and broadest tax cuts since the reagan era. this was cataclysmic. and i think that romney -- you know, i don't generally offer unsolicited advice to candidates or campaigns, but i think this is -- it's more likely to be played out, anderson, in terms of their differences on issues, of which there are a number, and who is the best leader. i don't think that it's going to be possible to defeat newt gingrich by saying he's disqualified from being president because he's been married before. and again, 44% of the republican voters are going to be evangelicals and they voted for ronald reagan, the first divorced man to ever sit in the oval office against jimmy carter, who was a born-again evangelical. why? because they agreed with reagan on the issues. they believed he was uniquely qualified to lead. >> james, there are some democrats, to ralph's point, who have been saying they relish going up against newt gingrich. are they underestimating him? >> you know, i don't know. certainly he's made an interesting thing having mr. boaten say he would have him as secretary of state. i'm sure they'll look at his history. something tells me we're only in the third inning in terms of what we're going to find out about speaker gingrich. i don't think we're through here. i think there's a lot more to go. i think romney has no choice but to do this. he's been stuck at 22% forever. he's got to mix this thing up. the iowa caucus is like january the 3rd. that's like three weeks away. he's got to go long here and i think he's starting to do that. and i think we're going to see a lot more of that in the next three weeks here. >> james, isn't newt gingrich pretty much a known quantity? he's been under the microscope before, though not at a presidential level. but you think there's more to emerge? >> i think he was under a microscope in a ninth grade science class. i think he's getting ready to get under an electromicroscope here. they may discard him. it's obvious these republicans -- it's obvious ralph doesn't want to be for romney, he wants to be for gingrich and it's pretty clear that's the way a lot of them feel. it's their party and they're certainly entitled to nominate who they want. it seems to me they're going to great lengths not to nominate mitt romney, so it's a very fascinating, interesting psych toll -- cycle to me. >> ralph, are you supporting somebody at this point? >> just to be clear, i'm not endorsing anybody or supporting anybody, i just said as an 'em peer cal analytical matter, i wouldn't underestimate newt gingrich. >> all right, thank you. fear and chaos at virginia tech. four years after the worst mass shooting in american history, another deadly shooting. we'll have the latest developments from campus in a live report. also a tv showing off what was a u.s. strelt drone that went down last week. is it the real deal? 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>> reporter: well, investigators say they believe they have located the person responsible for the shooting. they are not getting into any specifics. during our press conference a little while ago they said you can read between the lines. there were two people found dead. a virginia tech campus police officer and the second man who was found dead a short time later in another parking lot a little ways away. that person was found with a weapon nearby. but police aren't saying anything about the weapon and also not identifying either that second victim or the second man found dead or the virginia tech police officer except to say he was a four-year veteran of the police force. they have also said that the motive of this shooter is still unclear, so still a lot of details to emerge. >> so just to be clear, the police won't confirm or deny questions about the second body that was found or say more than they, quote, located the shooter. the instatimation saying the sed body could be the shooter. >> reporter: right. the second man found dead, a weapon was found nearby but since they're not saying anything specific about identifying that victim, we'll have to wait and hear more as the next coming days come along. >> several school officials were in washington today on a hearing on their response to the shooting back in 2007. we heard that the response on today's threat was a lot swifter, more effective. what's the feeling on campus, the mood on campus now? >> reporter: certainly you had the head of the campus police and emergency management director appealing this $55,000 fine that had been imposed by the department of education who said last time they failed to notify the students and faculty quickly enough. today we had a chance to speak with some students. the campus was alerted through e-mails, through postings on the virginia tech website and through tweets as well. and so people were kept abreast all throughout the events today. so certainly people here would argue that it went a lot better than it did four years ago. >> appreciate it. let's check some other stories we are following. >> aroundson, iranian tv has aired images of what it says is a u.s. stealth drone that went down last week. one u.s. official says there's no reason to believe it's a fake, but another official is skeptical about how the drone could have remained intact since it's believed it crashed from a high altitude. attorney general eric holder in the hot seat over his handling of operation fast and furious. at a hearing by the house judiciary committee, republican congressman jim sensen brenner said, quote, heads should roll. the operation allowed illegally bought guns to get into the hands of mexican gun cartels. the former ceo of mf global says he doesn't know what happened to $1.2 billion of its customers' money. jon corzine apologized to all those affected and the investigation goes on. >> thank you. we'll check back with you a little later. still ahead, crime and punishment. new details we've learned in the last 24 hours about the 20-year-old man accused of killing a 7-year-old girl in georgia. his family speaking out and some of his neighbors. also tonight former penn state football coach jerry sandusky made bail today. he's back at home under house arrest. tonight his wife is speaking out about the child sex abuse charges he's facing. whoa. whoa. how do you top great vacations? 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[ cellphone rings ] thank you. live streaming audio. advanced charts. look at that. all right here. wherever "here" happens to be. mobile trading from td ameritrade. number one in online equity trades. plus get up to $600 when you open an account. crime and punishment tonight. the 20-year-old man accused of killing a 7-year-old georgia girl is being held without bond and we are learning more about him. his name, ryan brunn. he was arrested at the apartment complex where the little girl lived and where her body was found monday in a trash compactor. she had been mising three days. authorities say she was beaten, stabbed, sexually abused. her mouth was duct taped. her hands and feet bound with plastic ties. a horrifying crime that her family and neighbors were trying to absorb when the second shock hit. the man now charged with the murder of someone who lived and worked among them, a new neighbor who moved in just weeks ago. gary tuchman reports. >> reporter: his hands shackled, wearing an orange jumpsuit and bulletproof vest. ryan brunn walked into a packed courtroom charged with the murder of little jorelys rivera. >> you understand what you're charged. two offenses, one is murder and the other is a false statement. >> reporter: brunn appeared shocked by the number of journalists in the courtroom. so much so, he had to be warned by a deputy to be attention to the judge. >> how old are you? >> 20. >> how far did you go in school? >> 10th grade. >> can you read and write? >> yes. >> are you under the influence of any alcohol or drug at this time. >> reporter: just last month he started working as a maintenance man at the apartment complex where jorelys was sexually assaulted, stabbed, beaten and killed. >> he'd go around picking up trash from other places around the park and everything else. >> just moved there about three or four weeks ago. >> reporter: according to his facebook page he is originally from brooklyn, new york. he seemed to be looking forward to starting his new job in canton, georgia. new job, apartment, life coming soon he wrote in october. a post from november reads today is moving day. not ready to go but i got to. >> brunn was well known in the apartment complex because he was employed there. to the extent that he is known to the family of the child, i do not know. >> reporter: neighbor nancy hudgens did not notice brunn hanging around other kids and that he was quiet and kept mostly to himself. >> he had just moved in, he's got his girlfriend and stuff. and i didn't see his girlfriend out with him or anything that way. >> reporter: brunn took part in the search for jorelys, but hudgens confided he didn't want police to go through his apartment, an apartment that overlooks the dumpster where jorelys' body was eventually found. >> he was kind of scared because he had beer bottles and he was underage drinking. he thought he might get in trouble. >> reporter: but brunn soon had much more to be worried about. >> yes, he was very scared. he didn't know what to think because he's been questioned for the last 14 hours and whatnot. he just doesn't know. he's never been arrested before. he's never went to jail, never been in the back of a cop car, he's just been a good kid. >> reporter: investigators say brunn has no criminal record that they know of, but they're still examining his past. >> we have sent agents to other states, to another state and also to other counties and we will -- we are going to backtrack all of his activities and make a determination if he has been involved in other crimes. >> reporter: the georgia bureau of investigation has yet to disclose exactly what evidence led them to arrest brunn. brunn's brother says he didn't do it. >> he wouldn't touch a girl like that. he would never do something like that. just like -- it's just all bogus. >> reporter: but authorities say they are very confident they have their man. ryan brunn is in jail tonight in solitary confinement. he's expected to return to court next month for his arraignment. the district attorney here hasn't made a decision yet, but there's a very high likelihood this will ultimately be a death penalty case. you know, the city of canton is very small. it's charming, it's picturesque, it's 45 miles north of atlanta. this is where you come to get away from crime. but the crime, and a horrible crime, has come here. anderson. >> gary, appreciate the reporting tonight. such a tragedy. let's dig deeper now. i'm joined by mary ellen o'toole, author of "dangerous instincts, how gut feelings betray us." this guy, ryan brunn, is only accused of the murder and hasn't been convicted of it. if he did in fact kill this little girl and afterwards participate in the search for her you call that injecting yourself into the case. how so. >> well, he's injected himself into the search for the victim. and that's a very high-risk thing to do. it's high-risk behavior. we didn't see it a lot in the fbi as a profiler, but it does happen. it generally happens for several reasons. one of them -- one of those reasons includes it's thrilling and exciting to know that you're looking for the victim. and the only one that knows where she is, is you. also it's a great way to monitor the investigation. and it does happen in these kinds of cases. >> do people think it also helps them cover their tracks or make them look not guilty if they're helping search for her? >> it can be a number of motives. it can also show -- look, i'm helping, i'm trying to participate, i'm a member of the community. but i think the motives tend to be a lot more self-serving than trying to look altruistic to the community. >> the fact this little girl was killed in the way she was, i mean raped, beaten, stabbed before her body was just tossed in the trash compactor right outside this guy's window, what does it tell you about his process, his thinking? >> it's suggesting right now a couple of things, and i'd want to look at the order in which the homicide and the sexual assault occurred. the fact that he put her in a dumpster could mean that that's how he sees her, and it's very tragic to say. he could see her as garbage. the other thing, however, is that he was interrupted somehow and he had to dispose of the body very quickly. so right now we're not sure. the medical examiner when they finish their report, they will be able to give us more specific information about the body disposal and then it will become easier to start considering one motive as opposed to another. >> georgia investigators say they are confident he is the killer and the murder was planned and calculated. if it was planned and calculated, though, it just seems such an obvious place -- i mean to dispose of a body right outside your window seems not very calculated at all. >> and it doesn't mean that these kinds of offenders are smart and calculating from beginning until the end. they can have a part of the scene that shows a lot of preplanning and then another part that seems almost stupid. but if you dispose of a body right outside your window, it certainly allows you to monitor whether or not and when the victim is recovered and who is searching around the area, and if you have the opportunity, you may even be able to go in there and move the body a second time. >> again, it's just so disturbing. mary ellen o'toole, i appreciate your expertise. thank you. >> you're very welcome. up next tonight, former penn state football coach jerry sandusky out of jail after being accused of new child sex charged. now his wife is speaking out about the allegations. we'll tell you about that. and a new lawsuit filed against syracuse' coach, bernie fine. later alec baldwin kicked off an airline. the whole bizarre incident lands on the ridiculous. nyquil: you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers? 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