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Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20111006



and prayers during of the last year of steve's illness. all around the world and all around the web tributes have been pouring in all night for the man who's been called henry ford, thomas edison, willy wonka and pt barnum all rolled up in one. from president obama, the world has lost a visionary. much of the world heard of his passing on a device he int vented. michelle and i send our thoughts and prayers to steve's wife lauren, his family and all those who loved him. from partner in adversary and partner again bill gates, the world rarery sees someone who has had the profound impact steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come. for those of us lucky fluff to get to work with him, it's been an insanely great honor. i will miss steve immensely. the tributes are pouring in on tribute as well, so many the service has been jammed on and off outthroughout the evening. throughout the hour we'll be talking to a lot of people who can fill in the picture of what steve jobs would have likely called an insanely great life. though we begin tonight with the one person who was there at the very beginning, steve jobs' partner in the creation of apple computer, steve woz nknee ak. he joins us by phone. steve, my condolences to you. obviously you've lost an old friend. what went through your mind tonight when you heard the news? >> hi, anderson. thanks for your feelings. i'm a little bit like awestruck, just dumbfound. i can't put my mind into gear, i can't do things. it's kind of like when john lennon died or jfk. i don't think hardly anyone else, maybe martin luther king, it's sort of like, oh, you're like -- there's a big hole left in you. it's very hard to go back and touch on all the -- reflect on all the feelings, what it means. you know, you've already said what he did. everyone knows what he did. how much life he brought to the world. i think if he had a goal he certainly far, far overachieved any goals he had from the start of things. >> what do you think it was that drove him? >> you know what, i think steve jobs would have had hopes and visions for the furture and he set up apple computer really to continue on in his dreams and i hope that apple always has great leaders like him. >> what do you think it was that drove him? because, you know, some people create things, but i mean time after time a.m. aftfter time hed the way we think about technology and the way we interact with it. he was constantly innovating. what was the drive? >> a lot of young people who have business successes have a lot of power to do things and a lot of them just sort of keep going along with sort of the status quo and the way it it is. steve really didn't. always new things and being ahead of the world, and sort of being number one in that way. just applied good thinking and the result of it is he made a lot of people happy. how many times can you remember products from a company that just made you happy every time you used them? when i grew p up, maybe it was the television, nothing else. so i think that's why -- i mean, you say all the twitter and the e-mails and everything is just pouring in. so many people are just so thankful for the life that steve jobs largely brought us, you know, in the way he conducted apple computer. >> can you tell us about those early days when you -- you were both working at hewlett-packard, right? >> actually not -- steve had a summer job as an intern there. i was working there designing calculators. we were just -- you know, that's what i really need time to think about, though. such important times, you know, the concerts you went to together, the times you stayed up all night, the times you talked about a project, something you might build. i was kind of the big designer/builder and steve would be off at college and he would come and we'd find ways to sell it. he was always looking for ways to turn things into business. and he knew how to spot the good from the bad. so all the things -- so many things he left with me, impressions, values, ways i try -- so many times i try to think the way steve jobs would think, right from back in the early days. and it's just so, so, so much. so much. i mean, i'm just feeling everyone's life in the world right now. just think of a lot of even political leaders, they don't have much positive effect on our lives, not in my opinion. you know, economists and this and that. but here is a guy who created tools that every one in the world, billions of people, just love and feel happy about and good about. the only times we ever say, oh, my gosh, a president really made a big difference in my life is because we're on their side politically and we can't remember their name. >> what was it like -- you guys were literally from what i heard working in a garage building the first personal computer. >> it's a little different than that. we had a year in a garage where basically means working outer your home because we had no money. that's one of the things that makes steve very popular in a lot of people's eyes. people can't believe thinking and taking the world somewhere else, he came from almost nothing being a youngster. that's how a lot of these companies start, facebook and google, similar stories. yeah, we had no money at all to put into our business. we would just go out there and soldering irons and hook things up, steve would be on the phone buying parts, finding sales, talking to people, raising money eventually. all of those little things you do was just basically done out of our garage and homes and our cars and pockets. we had nothing. >> did you know what it could become? did you know how important what you were doing was? or would be? >> we felt it was unbelievably important, but we never could have envisioned it would grow to what it is today, that it would be such an important part of everyone's life in so many ways. basically, the computer and all these follow-on products are ways of communication, enhancing communication between people. even when you start out with just being able to print a document on a real printer, that's communication. what we never saw is everything in life you used to do a different way, now you would be sitting at a computer keyboard or ipad today or iphone and transacting your business of life. no, we couldn't even see that you'd ever be able to score a so dshg store a song in the amount of memory in a computer. the early spark was, you just take the technology of today, kind of turn it into tomorrow's technology. that's where we were at, and steve was just always, always pushing for, can you do this, can you do that? beyond what the engineer was really capable of dog. but you could get the engineers to say, yes, i can, yes, i can, and eventually it would get done. >> did you know, too, that he would be such a good businessman? did you know that he had -- it he was beyond -- >> i don't think anyone that knew steve way back in the early days would have said that. you know, even when with he left p apple, departed apple on sort of unfavorable terms for a while, i think when he came back he had really improved as far as a businessman, understanding importance of operations and not just spending money like it's incident but running a company like it's a company and making the right decisions. you can't sell something that doesn't do the right job so -- but, anyway, that's what he was. but everybody knows what his legacy is. will it get replaced or not? is there a hole that can't be replaced? you know, you sort of think, like i mentioned, john lennon dying. oh, my gosh, what will we do now? where will we find another one? >> a lot of people tonight have been comparing him to basically sort of our times thomas edison. would you agree with that? >> thomas edison was more the guy in the laboratory with the tools. so i think of other types of inventors in that category. steve would be more my idea of thinking and throwing out ideas and inspiring people and knowing what was possible and who was telling him stuff that was really doable and what wasn't. good engineers -- he was just a really good judge of people and humanity, the people using the products and the people building them. so more almost on a psychological basis. i don't think of edison that way. >> it's interesting -- >> steve was kind of like a lot more than that. it's very important that the person at the top of a company making technology products understands the technology, understands what the different low level devices and technologies and chemistry and physics and what companies are making the -- the owner should make your products -- steve had a good understanding of the technolo technology. he wasn't a technologist, noshgs he didn't sit down and write the programs himself, but he could sure as heck apply the great management techniques to get the best out of any programmer they had. and they were the best in the world. >> he had studied ka lig ra 50 for a time, and the beauty of the products that he created is just extraordinary. and that was really important to him, wasn't it? >> well, the macintosh was the first time that instead of having every character had a predefined little shape out of a few dots, it could be created like a picture, painted, every single character of every word was painted. and that sort of fell in line a little bit along the line that's creativity was a good influence -- i'm sorry. kalligraffy was a good background. also when he created the first ad for the apple 1 and 2. he would go down and work with the lady who could bring up four lines of text on a screen and choose a few fonts, this idea of font. his idea was getting influenced by one of these things and years later you turn them into something good and useful to people. so that kind of thinking kind of pervaded the company ever since. >> steve, again, i can't imagine what it's like for you tonight. i just wanted to thank you very much for talking with us and sharing the steve you knew with the world tonight. thank you. >> well, i thank you, and i wish you a good night. i hope you sleep well. >> thanks. steve wozniak. when we come back, the creation of apple and all the high points since then, in pictures that are now part of history. i you really want you to see this piece we put together because it's extraordinary just to see all of the things that steve jobs has given to all of us. you're going to hear steve jobs in his own words ahead, tonight. some aches and pains. s and one way to relieve them all is to go right to the advil®. tennis is our game and advil® has become part of our game! 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ipod is an mp3 music player, has cd-quality music, and it plays all of the popular open formats of digital music. but the biggest thing about ipod is it holds 1,000 songs. now, this is a quantum leap because for most people it's their entire music library. this is huge. the coolest thing about ipod is that whole -- your entire music library fits in your pocket. i've got a pocket right here. now, this pocket's been the one that your ipod's gone in traditionally. the ipod and the ipod mini fit great in there. you ever wonder what this pocket's for? i've always wondered that. well, now we know because this is the new ipad nano. today apple is going to reinvent the phone, an ipod, a phone, and an internet communicator. an ipod, a phone -- are you getting it? these are not three separate devices. this is one device. and we are calling it iphone. the question has arisen lately, is there room for a third category of device in the middle? something that's between a p laptop and a smartphone? and of course we've pondered this question for years as well. the bar is pretty high. in order to really create a new category of devices, those devices are going to have to be far better at doing some key tasks. and we call it the ipad. and what this device does is extraordinary. you can browse the web with it it. it is the best browsing experience you've ever had. it's phenomenal to see a whole web page right in front of you and you can manipulate it with your fingers. it's unbelievably great, way better than a laptop. way better than a smartphone. for 2010 we're going to take the biggest leap since the original iphone. so today we're introducing iphone4, the fourth generation iphone. stop me if you've already seen this. believe me, you ain't seen it. you've got to see this thing in person. it is one of the most beautiful designs you've ever seen. hey, johnny! i grew up here in the u.s. with the jetsons and with star trek and communicators. and just dreaming about this, you know, dreaming about video calling, and it's real now. good morning! thanks for coming. thank you. thank you. we're going to introduce today ipad2, the second generation ipad. it is an all-new design. it is not a tweaked design. it's not got marginal improvements. it's a completely new design. and the first thing is, it's dramatically faster. one of the most startling things about the ipad2 is it is dramatically thinner. not a little bit thinner. a third thinner. and that is ipad2. as always, i'd also like to thank everyone's families because they support us and let us do what we love to do. so it thank you very much to our extended families out there who make it possible for us to work our tails off making these great products for you.jobs, he has bs so much. dan simon, sanjay gupta, apple's third and sometimes forgotten co-founder wayne is on the phone. sanjay, i want to fist talk to you about what steve jobs died of, pancreatic cancer? >> he had a variant, a kind of cancer that is a tumor specifically of some of the cells in the pancreas that make various hormones like insulin, for example. you know, you saw that speech he gave at stanford. he talked about when he was diagnosed they found a lesion in his pancreas. they thought it was an aggressive form of cancer. they did a biopsy and he describes the doctors literally crying when they got the results back because it it wasn't the most aggressive form of pancreatic cancer but this kind of tumor. the numbers are still tough. even with this variant, with pancreatic cancer, one-year survival rate anderson is about 20%, with this tumor, five-year survival rate around 50%. so the odds were sort of stacked against him. but eight years later now we're talking about and he was high functioning really the whole time. he really fought like crazy for eight years. >> yeah. the weight loss we saw, that was all part of this obviously. >> yeah, i think so. for a cucouple of reasons. one is the cancer, two, the pancreas also controls your digestive enzymes, thn the hormones can cause the weight loss. he talked about -- he was somewhat vague about exactly what he had, but he did talk about this hormonal imbalance at one point, which is really what with -- this is what he was describing. >> when is the first time you met steve jobs? >> at attari when we worked together. he was a consulting engineer for atari. i was the chief draftsman. >> i want to extend my condolences in the loss of your old friend. what are your thoughts tonight as you remember steve jobs? >> my memory of steve jobs was actually the roots of a man that we've all known from then to now, a person with a most focused intent on whatever it was he wanted to accomplish. he dealt with the world as a wonderful and enjoyable plaything and tool he could work with. and, of course, he had the mental capacity to organize, to keep things together, to organize people. and it was a talent that showed up then and was magnified as he continued with the development of the apple corporation. >> what do you think it was -- i've asked this question to a lot of people tonight. i'm always fascinated by what drives people. ronald, what do you think drove steve jobs to continue to innovate and innovate and innovate? >> excitement with the ideas that kemt copt coming to him. with his vuf the world and how he thought it fit together and what could fit into it. >> andy, you met him had on and off over the years, had some encounters, run-ins, good times. your thoughts tonight? >> you know, this is a guy -- i mean, it's hard to overstate his importance to business, but not only business, anderson but also to culture and society, to our country. i mean, i don't think that's overstating. one of the five most important people in america, one of the ten? he's up there, just how he transformed, how we communicate, how we use technology, how we watch movies, how we shop, how we look at products. you know, when you start to add all of that up, it's the legacy of a pretty incredible and pretty important guy. and i think about, you know, how he's changed technology and the technology business and when he came back to apple famously in 2000, this was a company that was at death's door and it was just a little irritant to the other big technology companies. then all of a sudden it starts to gain momentum with the introduction of the imic, then the ipad, iphone, ipod. and it starts to dominate and take the lead on hp and dell and sony, which used to dominate the consumer electronics business. remember the walkman. they totally got blown out of the water. they dominated that business. apple took over the whole thing. >> dan simon, you've been covering nor a long time. your thoughts tonight. >> well, actually, i had a chance to meet steve jobs last summer after he unveiled the macbook air, the new one. i learned at the time he was no longer shaking hands because i extended my hand and he just said, nice to meet you. i learned it was because he was taking antirejection drugs because he had a liver transplant in 2009. i guess the thing that stands out, for me, is this constant wave of innovation. you know, the personal computer, the apple 2, the iphone, ipad, ipod. 30 years of success. but i'll also tell you that i don't recall steve jobs actually doing an interview in the last five years. he rarely talked to reporters, at least on television. but the press just follow eed apple, continues to follow p apple, unlike any other company we've ever seen. when he would hold these massive press conferences at the mosconi center in san francisco, it took on the vibe of a rock concert. people would stand in line overn

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