0 her between the president and boehner, asking about miley so she's doing something right. i think she's getting great attention. i happen to like her. >> donald trump it's always good to talk to you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. thank you, piers. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome to "ac 360 later." thanks for joining us. on the table tonight, christiane amanpour speak to a girl targeted by the taliban. we'll hear perspective on the web site. and are lebron james and peyton manning making kids fat? we begin with breaking news in day ten of the government shutdown, double digits now. the news tonight seems to be good, though. both sides are talking. take a gasp. actually talking. that sadly actually does count as real news in this environment. talking about it here at our table tonight, cnn senior analyst, choon political commentator and cnn commentator and republican strategist and shortly joined by dana bash. good news tonight? >> i think so. yesterday we began to see some thawing out. today there's been more thawing out. they're talking. they're saying everything's on the table. they're beginning to do what people should do when they're in the midst of making a deal and a negotiation, which is actually sit down face-to-face, talk to each other, throw around some different proposals and weigh them seriously. so definitely i think this is better than where we were ten days ago. >> anything off the table? >> i love how she keeps a straight face here. this was what representative jack kingston said from georgia. you know what reopens shutdowns more than policy are the polls. you have a string of polls coming out today showing the damage that house republicans are doing to your party. and i know your good friend jeb bush is probably looking at this well sort of problematic because you're absolutely killing your party. republicans right now -- >> what does jeb bush have to do with it? >> he wants to run for president at some point. but republicans have registered the lowest rating ever in gallup. >> let's look at some of the polls on the screen. >> really must we? >> who do you think is more to blame for the shutdown? president obama 31%, republicans in congress 53%. both equal 13, not sure say 3%. next poll here, if you could vote to defeat and replace every member of congress would you? yes? 60%, no 35%. >> let's talk about the main news of the day, which is that john boehner came out and said they now have a proposal to extend the debt ceiling for six weeks. that's considered progress. there was absolutely nothing said by boehner about reopening the government. i think it's so pathetic that our idea of progress now is avoiding a financial catastrophe but still not talking about reopening the government. >> let's bring in dana bash who's in washington. dana, explain what is now on the table, what is being debated. as jeff was just saying, boehner came out saying just to lift the debt ceiling, president obama it seems like said no, we got to work on both of these things opening the government and the debt ceiling. >> reporter: that's exactly right. and i just talked to a republican source familiar with the meeting that went on tonight. and we are told that they really went round and round for about an hour saying effectively what you just laid out. the president saying come on, guys, we got to open the government. and republicans in various ways saying that they want to first deal with the debt ceiling. they got to get that passed. and then they want to sit down maybe over the weekend and start talks. and i'm told, so is our congressional producer that a key moment that happened in tonight's meeting was actually between paul ryan, the president's former opponent of vice president candidate, and the president where paul ryan effectively said, look, we the republicans we're not going away. let's try to figure out how to work this out together. and it seems as though everybody was so exasperated by going round and round for an hour that the president said, you know what? okay. if you guys think that you can work out a way to reopen the government, to pass a funding bill that will make everybody happy, have at it. go ahead and work at it. that's exactly what's happening right now. >> dana, let me just quickly bring in republican congressman james langford joins us live from capitol hill as well. is obama care, the idea of changing it, of altering it in some way, defunding it, is that off the table now for house republicans? >> what's interesting is that's still on the table for us. that's still an ongoing part of our conversation but it hasn't been a part of this particular conversation in two weeks. that's not been news. the last proposal that we put out as house republicans was to remove penalty for the first year for people that made a mistake or didn't want to sign up for obama care just the individuals. businesses already have had the penalties removed from them by the president. we asked for individuals to get same treatment as businesses did in the first year. and then to apply obama care equally to the white house and to members of congress. and so that's already been there. i know there's been a lot of statements to say we haven't moved. we feel like we have negotiated this. and i would take issue with a couple of things that dana had mentioned earlier. she was pretty close on a lot of those things. but actually being a person in the meeting i can tell you that there were a few discrep an says things she was mentioning there. >> like what? >> well, simple things like it was an hour and a half meeting. we did go round and round for about hour then had some breakthrough moments on it. but we've tried to talk for two weeks to say we should meet together and negotiate this. the impression is left that we really want to keep the government closed, but we'll do the debt ceiling on it. we really want to do both. we want to be able to bring it forward, but we also want to be able to talk about this. for two weeks we've had a proposal out there saying let's just meet face-to-face and finally today we meet face-to-face. this was not about polls. this is where we were two weeks ago. >> i want to bring in dan that go ahead. >> reporter: first of all, congressman, i certainly did not mean to least impression that you didn't want to reopen the government. >> oh, no. >> reporter: in fact what i said was that i think you do want to do it but wanted to deal with the debt ceiling first. so i think that we're all agreeing on that. what i've heard, maybe you can say if this is accurate, is that the news "wall street journal" nbc poll that anderson and folks were talking about just moments ago hit republicans like a ton of bricks tonight. for lots of reasons, but because of the numbers, because it shows that people are so much more angry there you see republicans in congress 53%. they get the blame. and there are other numbers that show that it's even worse for republicans. and that that -- a couple of republican sources said that that hit you guys like a ton of bricks. and so you all do want to reopen the government. you feel like it's enough already. you've made the point, especially to some of the conservatives in your caucus that you tried this road, it didn't work. it's time to reopen the government. i'm sure you're hearing like we are from your republican friends in the senate that they're done with this. they really want to move on. >> true. the one thing i'd change in that, it wasn't just the poll numbers that have come out today. from the very first day there were poll number issues. no one wanted to get to this point on it. the issue was two weeks ago we said we wanted to meet face-to-face. it took us two weeks to finally meet face-to-face with the president. we said we'd meet face-to-face with the senate or president either one. for two weeks they said no. today we make progress when we meet face-to-face. >> congressman, you said you want it reopen the government. here's an idea. why don't you reopen the government? >> why is that funny? why don't you just pass a continuing resolution? you could do it tonight and then continue negotiating. if you want to reopen the government, reopen the government. >> well, we would be glad to do that, jeffrey. you know, you've watched through a ton of negotiations over the course of the years. we're dealing with multiple things here. dealing with the debt we were in the same spot we've been at the entire past three years in this spot to negotiate it. we have to find ways to be able to stop doing debt ceiling increases, looking at long term environment spending that you've been so sharp on for so long and say we've got to find a way to start chipping away at all the obligations we have as a nation we can't keep up with. a lot of things like the affo affordably care act. >> the government of the united states is going to stay closed while you deal with all those issues. >> no, not necessarily. there are simple ways to be able to get through this. the first goal for us was actually be able to sit down and find negotiations. i think what you're going to find, we've had a rational position all along. no one would talk to us on it. as we walk through and try to finally get to negotiations tonight and they're ongoing people are going to find out we're very reasonable on this. we just want to be able to be in the middle of the conversation to say let's all admit there are real problems with the affordable care act. some folks will say yes, there are problems but we don't want to deal with it. we're sayinging we have to deal with it. people are paying higher fees. people are going to be quite surprised when they finally do get through the web site on it. there are lots of issues with small businesses. let me give you one example. in my district there's a husband and wife that own three franchises. the franchises all have extremely small profit margins so they own all three of them together to be able to hobble through a living on this. they are right now looking at divorcing as a couple because if they keep -- they're still married and they have all three of those franchises. they'll fall into the 50 or more limit and then suddenly they can't keep up. their profit margin is not large enough to be able to keep their business. so the solution for them is to legally divorce and so that one person can own two of them, the other person can own one. they can still maintain and be able to live. that is a crazy thing to do for it because of the affordable care act. that is multiplied around the country as people have to reshuffle their business, figure what to do, change their insurance. real problems are happening out there. we can't continue to ignore that. >> congressman, one of the tragedies for me as a republican of this calamity that has happened in the last ten days for our party and where we've gotten, because we've been playing this out, there's been no attention paid to those issues that you just pointed out, those problems that there are with obama care. so i think we are giving frankly the white house and president obama a way out. we have been the distraction. we've taken all the air out of the room. and i think the smartest thing right now is to really figure out how to get to a solution. i am glad to see the movement you guys are making. i hope you are responding and you are as the senate is reaching out with some proposals that to me sound very creative, but just keep the lines open. >> i just want to ask a simple question. we had this debate about obama care and we had an election that -- elections we've had this debate and we lost it. but my question really is this. is this a way to govern, congressman? is this a way for us to govern moving forward if democrats don't like something we shut down the government that a republican did, republicans don't like something they shut down the government to sort of rehash what was already debated? is this a way for democracy to behave, really? >> well, this is a way that democracy has behaved for the last 40 years. are you implying the eight different types that tip o'neal shut down the government or newt gingrich or bill clinton? this is not something we should ever want to have happen or occur but it is obviously something that has happened over and over again. our economy has continued to thrive and people go forward with it. we want to try to avoid this at any point as we can go forward on it. it's not like this is brand-new. i'm glad you think our economy is thriving. i'm sure the president will thank you for that support for his stimulus package. but truth of the matter is this is a little different, congressman. you have republicans in your caucus threatening to take us over the fiscal cliff. this sort of extremism quite frankly i think you have to say it is new. when you look at the polling it's new because republicans are hitting an all-time low in gallup polling. i think most americans think this is different, congressman. >> well, i would say that's interesting for you to say on that since we just proposed 2k50 dealing with the debt ceiling before the deadline today. we're not driving to drive us over the cliff, resolve some real issues and say there are real problems let's deal with them. >> congressman langford, appreciate your being on. dana bash. a lot more to talk about. the web site that's almost unusable, healthcare.gov we'll discuss what's going wrong with it and what's going on with the architect of both obama care and romney care. that's next.