in sinai where they killed several people of the e ggyptia ofish army. they operated like a precision, but there is no evidence to date that they have an tie aircraft system that could down a jet at 30,000. and you would need something like the buk. >> and how do we know that? and the reason that i look at this and ask, because people are looking at the mh-18 in the ukraine, and nobody knew that the rebels had the capability, and how did we know that? >> well, the rebels didn't, but the russians did. they gave it to them, and now the evidence suggests that it was man and operated by russian technicians. again, isis does not have that