roman ruins, the syrian ruins, they are blotting it out and massacring civilians. the sunni tribesmen, their had children were slatered their wives were killed and in the face of this kind of assault where they used 30 suicide bombings ten of those were as big as what we saw in oklahoma city in the bombing that we experienced here in the united states so that gives you some idea of what is going on. so my reaction to that is that we need more air support, closer air support, air strikes called in and we need to force the issue of arming the kurds and sunni tribesmen. i know the she i know i know the shii don't like that idea but it is necessary to defend themselves. >> back to what the president said in that atlantic interview