>> and how far would the movie theater have been for the place where he stopped? >> not far. a couple minutes at the most. >> when the defendant arrived or pulled over from the evidence that you have, what did he do? >> when the defendant pulled over at the acres mill, he pulled directly into the shopping center, acres mill shopping center and parked his car in the middle of the roadway. he exited his vehicle and popped up the rear door to his vehicle. he entered into the rear door, removed cooper from the car seat, removed cooper from the car seat and placed him on the pavement next to the vehicle. he got down next cooper. >> let me ask you this. what was confirmed from the law enforcement and witnesses on scene, what was the condition of cooper when he was pulled out of