the russian defense minister? to that point what happens to the russian defense minister in the whole of this deal that prigozhin appears to have figured out with alexander lukashenko, the belorussian president. there are so many details in this we just don't know. what we do know i think at this stage is that -- that putin is a lesser figure. >> yeah, i mean for vladimir putin has spent a lot of time projecting strength, wanting to look tough. he now appears emasculated on the world stage. what does he do now in the next 24 hours? >> reporter: again, not clear. is he under pressure to fire his defense chief, or has his defense chief managed to survive this? we don't know. what we do know about -- >> and does he allow prigozhin