some in the question of the office seeker versus office holder, and so do we use the blasingame for that? >> if this court decides way the district court did, then blasingame does not have a role at all, because if this act is official or set of allegations are official, then the question is based on the fitzgerald analysis and history precedent, et cetera, and is there any quantum of immunity for a former president, and we believe that the answer to that question is no, and the reason of the district court then to turn to the indictment and consider this outer perimeter, civil outer perimeter. >> and do you believe they should decide the way that the district court -- >> i suppose that -- >> i mean on the blasingame did.