that trump was in fact trying to shake down a foreign country in order to smear a domestic political rival, is just -- it's too obvious, right? so they need to come up with something crazier, including these crazy conspiracy theories. >> i'm out of time but in fairness, i'll give you a quick last word, please, please. >> i think one of the better arguments republicans are going to be able to make is whether you think nothing bad happens, something bad happened, bad judgment, whatever you think, that we are in the cuss p of and we'll be in the midst of an american political action by the time this thing hits the senate. previous impeachments happened in second terms. this is happening in a first term during an election. no matter what you think of this, maybe the verdict of the american people ought to be the final word on this instead of the judgment of a partisan congress. i think that's what republicans maybe have the most success with tomorrow. >> thank you both. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. hi honey, we got in early. yeah, and we brought steve and mark.