cohen tutored him in the 1970s, that is been his modus operandi. admit nothing. everything is perfect. i never did anything wrong. that has gotten him through a whole lot of trouble in his life. he's going to play that hand until he is done. >> this idea of a referendum, by the way, every republican strategist i know was there to be a referendum on biden. they also wanted a referendum on biden in the midterm. everybody thought, under normal circumstances, independents would break against the incumbent president, who is not popular, and it just didn't happen that way. now that's magnified in this next election if he winds up being a party's nominee. there will not be a referendum on biden, i'm afraid, and that spells trouble for republicans. >> quickly, before we go, have you seen anything thrown out with several trial, moved federal card, the president told me to do this, as any has any of these defendants presented a glimmer of a good legal argument?