trump allies. outside the hotel, the proud boys, the oath keepers. i was outside the hotel that night walking through the streets taking notes as a reporter. it was a chaotic scene, and they were trying to pressure pence to somehow succumb to trump's election campaign and pull all these levers of power to try to get trump to stay in office. this was very real. that's what our reporting shows. and it could happen again in 2024. >> robert costa, thanks so much for being here. merry kris ma to you. >> merry christmas to you. from social media, what do we have so far having just come in? this may end up as another big mistake on trump's part. he'll only be confirming what he inciting, the attack on the capitol, without him urging his supporters it would not have happened. the point i was making to robert costa is this. if on january 6th he's facing the media and he's reiterating his version of what transpired,