outrage, because people who live in these communities, we could pretend to be shocked, you know every night. people who have been living in these communities, before there were cell phones with video everywhere have been complaining about these for decades. >> a long time yeah. i want to ask you, you saw what happened in ferguson right? when there was a rush to judgment by some it is believed there was a rush to judgment. are either of you concerned about a rush to judgment here before all the facts come out? >> oh, yeah, we're always concerned about a rush to judgment. because public perception is 9/10 of the law. everyone has a video and as soon as we see the video, they've already signed, sealed and convicted the cop in the actions he or she has taken before any facts come out. so it's important that like jeff had mentioned with the baltimore police department is a great police department. they do great work down there. baltimore's a tough city. >> there's a lot of complaints about the police department. >> however, i was just going to say that that there have been a number of complaints and/or