mark hill, thank you for coming on. and tonight penn state is going to suspend some students at a frat for hazing, and also at university of houston a and campus is losing its charter for suspending student ss under hazing allegations. >> well this is happening every year. and i happen to believe that the fra tern fraternities and the sororities are a good thing and they do a good thing in society, and i know that a tremendous number of black fraternities do a number of good works, but when you have homogeneous spaces you will