a cabell cabal of south vietnamese generals. >> once the u.s. had lead the coup to get rid of ziem, kennedy realized that the united states had finally bitten into a bad apple. >> monday, november 4th, 1963, over the weekend, the coup in saigon took place. i feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it. i should not have given my consent to it without a round table conference. i was shocked by the death of ziem. the way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. >> when that assassination took place, we owned it.