i would also say that they used some brutal, savage techniques in terms of the way that they've been targeting civilian populations. >> adam smith, he's the chairman of the house armed services committee. mr. chairman, thanks for joining us. what do you make of the comments from secretary austin? is russia becoming more brutal? hard to believe they could be much more brutal in light of the setbacks they've been facing because they've been so brutal already. >> think of it as continuing brutality and continuing to target the civilian population. their initial military plan failed for a variety of different reasons. one, they underestimated the opposition. two, think weren't well organized and to make up for it, they're just, you know, doing destruction on civilian populations basically to try to break the population. it is continuingly brutal. clearly a war crime.