possess weapons many times stronger than we have. >> what do you say to that, mr. chairman? >> well, i think the military situation is clear. if i was president zelenskyy i would be saying whatever i had to say to try to get as much support as possible. but the choice that the u.s. and our nato allies face is that to directly engage russian forces is to start a war with them and there's no reason to believe that russia wouldn't shoot back, attack in different places. as we've said from the start, we want to get weapons into ukraine, support in ukraine, but if we start a war with russia there would be more, not less suffering. a no fly zone requires them to shoot down russians more or we have to get them to agree to the no fly zone. we would have to contest the sky with russia, and that's war. that's a direct conflict. i completely understand what president zelenskyy is asking forgiven the situation he's facing, but a larger war would