allies. >> i suspect you're right. you know, david, this damning senate judiciary report, meanwhile, is shedding new light on the trump pressure campaign on the justice department. back on january 3rd, then president trump said to the acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen -- and i'm quoting from this new report just released -- one thing we know is you, rosen, aren't going to do anything to overturn the election. how disturbing, david, is it to see that in black and white? >> i mean, i can't think of things that are more disturbing than seeing a sitting president of the united states trying to convince a justice department official to do something illegal, overturn an election that was legitimately held and -- for his own personal benefit. i mean, things don't get more disturbing in american democracy than a scene like that. and listening to chuck grassley in sara's piece where he has this logic or illogic of saying,