that decision. one final question. do you believe he lied before your committee or in any other official capacity, john koskinen? >> i don't -- i'm not going to going that far. i would just simply say you know, he's making declarative statements without the information to back it up. for him to say people didn't break the law, he doesn't have the information. i wouldn't dare say that somebody didn't break the law when you're missing two years worth of e-mails. how can you make that statement? so for him to say to our committee that we were going to get all of the e-mails in question in may and he was notified in march that they were unrecoverable, i don't know what that is. maybe he was confused. but he told us one thing and he was briefed basically being told another several months before. so he was told in february and march the e-mails were unrecoverable. he told congress in may we were