i parental apparently we're not headed in that direction. what needs to be observed is that this conversation was a private conversation in september of 2013 between mr. sterling and his girlfriend. she did not tell him it was being recorded. under california law, that recording cannot be used for any purpose in any proceeding except for impeachment. now, the league has said in writing to me that that tape recording is the sole basis of the claims against mr. sterling. so the sole basis of their claims is an illegally obtained recording which, under california law, cannot be offered in evidence. so they have no case. they have no case secondarily because mr. sterling did not breach any rule. he's entitled to say what he wants in the privacy -- >> mr. bleacher, i just want to