>> very disrespectful to her. >> you said something that was very important. one -- the theory of the race, is why do you need to replace mike enzi. the answer is because liz cheney is a much more combative personality. leave aside whether we need more of that. enzi is very conservative. the point is as you just said, she's much more aggressive and confrontational than he is. leave aside the question of whether or not we need more of that in washington. i don't think we do. but leave that aside. the point is, you start confrontations, people are going to confront you back. this is a little taste of what this kind of rough method, you invoked a very gentle mode of discussion and i think that's appropriate but that is not -- >> you think she started this discussion. they asked her on fox news her opinion and she gave it. she gave it in a winsome, kind, loving way and somehow because she said it she was the villain' th they beat her up for it. >> her sister did.