because of those two republican-led government shutdowns. >> well, all i would suggest to you is that there are a lot of different factors in the presidential campaign, but the people who were directly responsible for the shutdown got reelected, and that nobody had been reelected -- incumbent presidents getting reelected is a lot more common than republican congress getting reelected in 1996, yet almost nobody in the media wants to look at -- why was it while clinton got reelected, so did the house republicans and so did the senate republicans? i want those are fair points. what's your biggest gripe right now? >> i don't think i have a gripe per se. i think we have to shift to a breakout approach where we show the american people they can have better health and better health care through a republican approach than they'll get from obama's. >> newt gingrich speaking with me earlier.