to find. we med with ahmed abu khattala in public at a coffee shop for around two hours. he seemed to be confident, his demeanor most certainly not that of a man who believed he was going to be detained or targeted any time soon. he agreed to let us film audio, but not video of our conversation. [ speaking foreign language ] arwa is engines us now. you mentioned it wasn't very hard to find this guy. how easy was it? >> reporter: very easy, wolf. this is you saw on that report