this is you can't underestimate a student. if you give them the chance, they're amazing, and jean has a way of pulling that out of people. >> the aha moment was when jackson came to me last year and was like, what if we use sodium chloride? >> we can get the oxygen for the fuel cells using the disassociation of sodium chloride, which is used commonly in aviation and in submarines as well as an emergency oxygen explain. we have kind of adapted this technology and put our own kind of spice on it to make it perfect for our applications and to create a very continuous steady supply of oxygen. >> i am very hands on. i like rapid prototyping. i like going into the lab and just playing with things and seeing how can i make this work very quickly? i'm very on top of time. from being involved in crew, double majors, you really learn time management. you're forced to. otherwise, you can't make